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Title: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on January 05, 2021, 11:30:22 AM
With 2020 thankfully behind us, it's time to sign up once again for the Midwest Knockout.  I am planning on getting the brackets out a little earlier this year to provide more time to schedule the first round matches.  When signing up provide your name and city/town so that I can hopefully arrange the first few matches closer to home.  With that said, some participants end up competing against the same people each year.  For those of you who want, just let me know if you would like to compete in a different region. 


Congrats to the 2020 winner George Freeman and hope to get another good turnout this year. 


J. Reese
C. Sturges
J. Schley
G. Smiltins
C. Titschinger
Z. Molnar
R. Taylor
J. Bills
E. Fleisher
B. Wolter
B. Hill
J. McCarthy
K. Fry
G. Freeman
J. Melchiors
A. Fowler
S. Solow
D. Groeger
B. Seitz
N. Weinberger
S. Salmen
J. Thurman
S. Burrows
B. Steele
B. Laurent
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: C. Sturges on January 05, 2021, 01:58:27 PM
Congratulations George!


Thank you for setting this up again James!!


Cleveland, Ohio


Thanks,
chris
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Jeff Schley on January 05, 2021, 02:53:44 PM
Sign me up . Chicago.


EDIT - I want Freeman first round! ;D
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: George Smiltins on January 05, 2021, 03:01:49 PM
Thanks for arranging again! I'm in.


George Smiltins
Cleveland, Ohio
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Criss Titschinger on January 05, 2021, 04:16:12 PM
Of course! Cincy, OH.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Zack Molnar on January 05, 2021, 10:36:12 PM
Always wanted to play in this - sign me up! Chicago, IL
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Ryan Taylor on January 06, 2021, 06:49:00 AM
In. Detroit or Chicago will work. Thanks for setting up.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Josh Bills on January 06, 2021, 08:24:20 AM
I'm in.  Thank you for setting it up.


Columbus, Ohio
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Evan Fleisher on January 06, 2021, 10:07:01 AM
In! These are fun! Happy to play outside my "region" if that part of the bracket needs to be filled out.

Evan Fleisher
Cleveland, OH
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Buck Wolter on January 06, 2021, 10:40:49 AM
Count me in again, MN but can travel to Iowa or WI for first round, in the unlikely event I go deeper into the event Chicago and Northern MI are options.


Buck
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Brad Hill on January 06, 2021, 11:33:09 AM
I’ve really enjoyed the matches the past two years. Please include me. Thanks for organizing James.


Milwaukee, WI
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: John McCarthy on January 06, 2021, 12:37:53 PM
I'm in.  Chicago.


Thanks James.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Ken Fry on January 06, 2021, 08:45:06 PM
Please count me in.  Thanks James.

Ken Fry
South Bend, IN
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: George Freeman on January 12, 2021, 01:45:21 PM
In!

Thanks James
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Joe Melchiors on January 13, 2021, 11:36:50 AM
My back is back, so I'm in.




-Joe Melchiors
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Anthony Fowler on January 13, 2021, 02:20:02 PM
Thank you, James, for organizing. I'd love to sign up again. I'm based in Chicago.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on January 28, 2021, 08:29:07 PM
First and last thread bump to sign up.  I'm looking at sometime the week of Feb 14 to make the pairings.   - James
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: SL_Solow on January 28, 2021, 09:12:05 PM
I'll give it a go
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Drew Groeger on January 29, 2021, 10:38:02 AM
I'll give it another go as well. Chicago area.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Bill Seitz on February 06, 2021, 03:59:15 PM
I'll sign up again.  Might actually be able to play again too! 
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: John Emerson on February 06, 2021, 05:04:14 PM
Is there something similar to this in the northeast region that is put on by another gca’er?  I’m in Delaware
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Noah Weinberger on February 06, 2021, 08:28:33 PM
I’m in, Noah Weinberger, Chicago
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Steve Salmen on February 11, 2021, 08:18:00 AM
Thanks again for organizing the bracket, James. Please count me in.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Jason Thurman on February 11, 2021, 09:05:44 AM
Ok I want in. Cincinnati, OH.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Steve Burrows on February 11, 2021, 10:16:38 AM
Please sign me up again. Indianapolis
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Billsteele on February 12, 2021, 11:21:00 AM
If there is still room, please count me in. Columbus, Ohio. Thanks. Bill Steele
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Jeff Schley on February 13, 2021, 12:59:36 AM
Got a bigger group than I thought, so hope we can get this done considering the pandemic and restrictions. I'll volunteer hosting two matches (first and second round) a weekend I'm home in July/Aug at my club in Chicago. I think this is a good way to get matches done efficiently considering the restrictions if we can.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Nate Oxman on February 13, 2021, 10:35:40 PM
Is there something similar to this in the northeast region that is put on by another gca’er?  I’m in Delaware


John, we tried to run one in the northeast maybe five years ago or so but it flamed out.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Brian Laurent on February 16, 2021, 04:16:02 PM
I'm in. Columbus, Ohio, but I'm willing to travel anywhere as needed.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on February 20, 2021, 03:59:29 PM
Here is the 2021 Bracket.....it took me 3 attempts to complete so let me know if you see any errors.  This year instead of randomly drawing based on location, I just went by order of signing up.  As in previous years we will try to get round 1 completed by the first of June round 2 by first of July etc.  I do like Jeff's idea of playing the 1st and 2nd round matches the same day to help move the bracket along.  Hopefully things get back to normal and everyone will be able to play their matches.  Good Luck!     - James


(https://i.imgur.com/sd6OuYwl.jpg)
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Criss Titschinger on February 25, 2021, 09:52:47 AM
I suspect Thurman and I would be looking to do our match outside of our home club. It'd be cool to meet up with another match or so, if it could be arranged.

Between my kids' soccer and my own coaching ambitions, my weekends through May are shot, and they have practice Monday through Thursday.

Fridays are WIDE open though. 😁
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on February 25, 2021, 10:54:01 AM

This year the bracket was hard to complete as there were only a handful of participants in the same area not in/near Chicago.  I think next year I may completely randomize the first round pairings although it will likely result in some added drive time....with 3 months to schedule the match it hopefully wouldn't be an issue.  Again, if anyone has any suggestions/ideas on how to improve the KO let me know.     - James

I suspect Thurman and I would be looking to do our match outside of our home club. It'd be cool to meet up with another match or so, if it could be arranged.

Between my kids' soccer and my own coaching ambitions, my weekends through May are shot, and they have practice Monday through Thursday.

Fridays are WIDE open though. 😁
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Josh Bills on April 26, 2021, 09:44:39 AM
I was fortunate to host Bill Steele and one part of the Jason Thurman/Criss Titschinger match at Urbana Country Club on Friday.  Jason was able to join us as a spectator.  Despite being my home club, the 12 pops Bill had were just enough to beat me 2 and 1.  Bill played well and I knew I was in trouble on the first hole when Bill hit a running shot over the front left mound on the first green which then proceeded to circle around and trickle back down the slope behind the pin leaving him about 3 feet for birdie.  Apparently he likes PB Dye surrounds and played them beautifully all day.  The course was in great shape and recent work by PB on the course and to the clubhouse have Urbana CC in wonderful shape.  Todd Sims the Superintendent always has the course in great condition. 


The company is what makes the Knockout so enjoyable and I would welcome them both back any time.  I appreciate the opportunity to enjoy the company of like minded individuals.  Good luck to Brian and Bill in the next round. 



Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Anthony Fowler on May 14, 2021, 06:26:09 PM
Shel and I were fortunate to play our match today at a neutral site and a really enjoyable course--Westmoreland. Shel was out of practice and didn't have his A game, allowing me to advance in the bracket. But it was great to play a really good course with great company.

For a Chicago-area course, Westmoreland has a lot of interesting movement in the land, and the routing makes great use of it. The greens are all different and interesting. And the bunkers are perhaps the most challenging, penal bunkers I've seen on a parkland course. The fairway bunkers are really well positioned, they dictate the strategy on every hole, and they're at least a half-shot penalty if you find one.

Thank you, Shel, for a great day. Let's play again soon!
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: SL_Solow on May 14, 2021, 06:35:04 PM
Anthony is too kind.  I played poorly but he played very well as usual and would have been tough to beat on any day.  I agree with hs analysis and I am looking forward to playing again soon.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Jason Thurman on May 21, 2021, 11:16:11 PM
My wife, live commentary, as I explain to her the Midwest Knockout:


You guys are insane.


I never went to my gym again when I moved and it became 12 minutes from my house.
.
You guys seriously drive 4 hours to stand in a vaguely different field of grass?


Your obsession with playing golf with strangers. I don't even think it's safe. If golf courses were like our Kroger I honestly wouldn't let you go do this without someone you know watching.


This is the whitest thing I've ever heard of. You guys. With your pants.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Criss Titschinger on May 22, 2021, 07:30:56 AM
You guys seriously drive 4 hours to stand in a vaguely different field of grass?
I mean, yeah. She's not wrong.

Jason and I played our match yesterday at our home club, Miami View Golf Club, a few miles outside Cincinnati, OH. My golf of late has been non-existent, thanks to having two kids in select soccer, and I myself pursuing soccer coaching. Mid-life crisis? Perhaps. A couple of range sessions within the last two weeks allowed me to get out to a quick 3up lead after 3. However, my rust showed up big time from holes 7 through 12, all of which Jason won; eventually finishing me off 4&3. Probably for the best, as I don't really have time to go deep in this tournament this year.

GCA conversation around Miami View is more recently known for its interesting water feature installed on its short par 3 11th. I was certainly not a fan of such a deviation from the master plan that's barely had its ink dried. And as Jason told me of potentially more master plan deviations, one of which to perhaps my favorite hole on the course, I just cringed. Our club does have people who are more knowledgeable with course architecture, so maybe we can stick to the plan a bit better going forwards.

What I did take out of yesterday's round was I underappreciate Miami View's greens. This after hundreds of plays. At first, they look fairly mundane and don't appear to present much of a challenge. However, there is a lot of subtle movement, and being in the right position on or off the green really matters. Yes, they're a bit small when compared with others in town; but it fits the course.

Good luck to the remaining participants!
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Billsteele on June 08, 2021, 07:15:17 PM
Brian Laurent and I played our match today. Brian was kind enough to set up our round at the Country Club at Muirfield Village. TCCMV is a sporty golf course designed by Jack Nicklaus across the street from Muirfield Village Golf Club. It is not as punishing as the course which hosts the Memorial but does provide a reasonable challenge. Like many Nicklaus courses, the corridors of play are fairly generous but the occasional water hazard and strategically placed bunkers can complicate a round. By virtue of the enormous amount of shots that I receive from my handicap, I was able to defeat Brian 1 up with a lucky/miraculous par on the 18th hole (which involved a ball skipping over a pond and a lucky chip to within two or three feet of the cup). Brian is a fine player and deserved a better fate. He is also a great guy and we had a terrific time. I am always amazed at the generous nature of the inhabitants of this site. Brian is no exception and I look forward to my next round with him.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Brian Laurent on June 08, 2021, 08:54:38 PM
Enjoyed our match today, Bill. Took my best round of the year to take you to 18! Always a joy getting out on the course with you and hope to do it again soon. Best of luck the rest of the way!
Brian Laurent and I played our match today. Brian was kind enough to set up our round at the Country Club at Muirfield Village. TCCMV is a sporty golf course designed by Jack Nicklaus across the street from Muirfield Village Golf Club. It is not as punishing as the course which hosts the Memorial but does provide a reasonable challenge. Like many Nicklaus courses, the corridors of play are fairly generous but the occasional water hazard and strategically placed bunkers can complicate a round. By virtue of the enormous amount of shots that I receive from my handicap, I was able to defeat Brian 1 up with a lucky/miraculous par on the 18th hole (which involved a ball skipping over a pond and a lucky chip to within two or three feet of the cup). Brian is a fine player and deserved a better fate. He is also a great guy and we had a terrific time. I am always amazed at the generous nature of the inhabitants of this site. Brian is no exception and I look forward to my next round with him.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Dan Moore on June 12, 2021, 11:13:10 AM
Hi Jason,


I just read your wife's comments to my wife. She wants to meet your wife.


Dan
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: John McCarthy on June 16, 2021, 08:13:58 AM
Ryan Taylor v. McCarthy went off yesterday afternoon at Blue Mound Golf and County Club outside Milwaukee yesterday. 


It was both of our first time at BMGCC.  We were blown away.  The conditions were perfect.  The course was dry, large bounces were had, there was a one-club wind and the greens were fast but very playable. The course was somewhat crowded but everyone kept a sub-4 hour round (our 2 ball match took 3.5).  The greens are the largest I have ever seen, we counted at least a dozen maybe up to 18 pinning sites on the Double Plateau 2d.  As noted in Ran's profile the par 3s really sing the song out there.  The Redan is truly heroic - even if I ended up in a bunker behind the giant kick-plate on the right. 


The match was a back and forth affair and we made the turn with Ryan up 3.  My driver started working, my handicap helped a lot and I found the fairway on the Long 18th, Ryan found the hay.  So I won 1 and 0. 


Ryan is the one who got us on there so much thanks to him. All in all, a great day of golf on an amazing golf course under ideal conditions.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Joe Melchiors on June 17, 2021, 04:24:04 PM
Mr Freeman and I played at Chicago Highlands on Tuesday.  It was a perfect day and we had a great time. 


He was playing lights out early and had me on the ropes, but I slowly clawed my way back to close out the match on 16.


-Joe
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: George Freeman on June 18, 2021, 07:36:44 AM
Joe M. and I played yesterday on a beautiful day at Joe’s club Chicago Highlands.  After I went 3-up through seven holes, Joe found his groove (I lost mine) and proceeded to trounce me for the next eight holes, closing me out on the 16th green.  I am second guessing my acceptance of Joe’s (seemingly gracious) offer to host, making it a home game for my opponent on a course requiring plenty of local knowledge.  I’ll file that one in the memory bank for future Knockouts.  To paraphrase Happy Gilmore:  there are only 364 days until next year’s Knockout, so I better get to work.  J
 
It had been 6-7 years since I had played Chicago Highlands and I feel like I owe the course an apology.  I was always less harsh on the course than most “architecture forward” folks (read:  the GCA.com crew), but I still don’t think I gave it a fair shot based on preconceived notions regarding A. Hills, landfill courses, etc.  I can still see myself nodding in agreement with statements like:  “why the hell would they hire Art Hills?”  “what a lost opportunity!”  “OMG the mounding…”  “just think what Doak or C&C would have done with this site!” 

 I had a more open mind this time around and found myself thoroughly enjoying the course.  Does it have the “minimalist/naturalist” aesthetic that we all love?  No.  Does it look like it has been there for 200 years, shaped by the forces of nature with only a few minor touch-ups from the hand of man?  Not in the least.  But what it does have in spades in a uniqueness and an identity unlike almost any course I’ve played – much different than anything in Chicagoland.  The designers clearly tried to create something different, and I appreciate that, even if in my opinion (or others) it didn’t work perfectly in every instance.  What I liked about Chicago Highlands:  (as previously mentioned) unique, one-of-a-kind holes that you really can’t find anywhere else (#2, 9, 13, 14, etc.); width/wide corridors; firm turf; wind! (probably the windiest golf site in Chicago); interesting greens/ green complexes/surrounds (#1, 2, 4, 7, 9, 10, 13, 14, 15); shared fairways.  I found myself constantly saying to Joe:  “you’re not going to see another hole/green like this in Chicago.”  With an open mind, it would be very hard not to have a good time playing this golf course…
 
The evolution of one’s thoughts about a golf course, or golf architecture in general, is always interesting to ponder and reflect on.  I know my own have changed quite a bit over the years.  My day at Chicago Highlands was a great example of this.     
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Bill Seitz on June 19, 2021, 12:27:01 AM
Joe is nails on his home course.  I'm taking him to Kingsley next time we have to play a match.


Highlands has some holes that are a little problematic, but it's a good test.  My issues with it are mostly aesthetic, with a wild, free flowing tee box on the first, followed by completely squared off boxes a hole or two later.  A bit schizophrenic.  But I always have a good time there.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Anthony Fowler on June 19, 2021, 07:24:06 PM
Brad Hill and I had a really enjoyable match today at Mammoth Dunes. Neither of us had our A-game, but we had a great time, and I was fortunate to advance in the bracket.

Most of you probably know Mammoth well so there's probably not much need to discuss the architectural merits of the course. It's perhaps the grandest, most scenically beautiful course in the world that's not on the ocean. It's also really really fun to play. On the other hand, it's so wide and so playable that it tends to require less thinking and strategy compared to its sister course.

Although Mammoth tends to be user-friendly, the strong winds, tough pins, and intense pressure of a GCA match, haha, meant that good scores were fairly elusive. Nobody in our group scared the course record, but we had a blast.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on June 22, 2021, 07:46:21 PM
Last Saturday I was on the receiving end of a beat down at Ken's home course South Bend Country Club.  The lead was mine after 1 and then the wheels came off.  Neither of us played particularly well, but Ken at his worst is equivalent to my game at its best. 


Ken is a great host and South Bend is an absolute blast to play.  Looking at the scorecard and standing on the first tee, the course looks like it would be fairly easy to post a decent number.  The course's main defense are it's very tricky greens (which play much more difficult than they appear) and complexes, which if you miss on the wrong side there is almost no chance of getting down in 2.  The course is on a great piece of property with many drives and approaches playing pretty severely up or down hill. 


Overall SBCC was probably one of the most fun courses I have played and would jump at the chance to play there again.  Good luck to Ken in the next round. 
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on June 23, 2021, 02:30:19 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/1zzfcHY.jpg)
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Buck Wolter on June 25, 2021, 09:10:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/1zzfcHY.jpg)


Dan Moore and I played this spring and called it the first round Mashie Match --please replace me with Dan on that line as he beat me per usual (3&2 or something like), he'll play the winner of Molnar/Schley match
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Steve Burrows on June 27, 2021, 11:16:43 PM
Myself and Jason Thurman met up today for a game at the Pfau Course in Bloomington, Indiana. We went back and forth early on, and then he took a sizable 3-up lead in the middle. I clawed back to only a 1 hole deficit on the 13th tee, but I can safely say that the match was never really in doubt (a consistent snap hook off the tee is no way to be successful at this particular golf course). While we were approaching the 16th green, a nearly biblical rain event begins, I get caught in the gunsch again, and Thurman wins the match 3&2.




Best of luck to Jason as he moves forward in the bracket.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on June 28, 2021, 01:53:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/U6wHZcy.jpg)
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Steve Salmen on July 03, 2021, 09:00:34 AM
Thanks to Ken for hosting me yesterday at South Bend CC. We caught a very nice day in the mid 70s.


Ken birdied the 19th hole to advance. Good luck against Jason.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Ken Fry on July 03, 2021, 11:35:53 AM
Thanks to James for all his work getting this event organized and for traveling over to South Bend Country Club for our match.  It was a very enjoyable day.

Steve and I had a great day yesterday also.  What he failed to include was I was dormie with two to play and Steve pulled out a gutsy par on 17 (a very tough par 3 over water) and hit the 18th in two for an eagle putt.

Home field advantage certainly helped in both matches but I really enjoy showing off our course.  It's a fun old sleeper!

My old buddy, the Cincinnati Kid, Jason Thurman.  This match will need to be played somewhere epic!

Ken
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: John McCarthy on July 09, 2021, 08:06:05 AM
Joe Melchiors and I had it out at Flossmoor GC yesterday.  Flossmoor is always fun to play and I think I run more putts past the hole there than anywhere else.  It really pays to be putting uphill there. 


I took any early lead, Joe squared it at the turn, took the lead but I made a few coming in to make the handicap difference felt.  I won 1 & 0. 


So I wait for the other bracket to catch up. 
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Jeff Schley on July 21, 2021, 10:09:59 PM
Me and Zach couldn’t get aligned and I have to head back from my summer visit. As I won’t be back anytime soon Zach will move on to play Dan Moore. Good luck to you guys and enjoy.  Thanks for setting this up and look forward to next year.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Dan Moore on July 25, 2021, 12:09:05 PM
Zach,


Let me know when you can play. I’m gone this week but around the Chicago area 8/3 to 8/10.


Dan
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Bill Seitz on July 27, 2021, 11:31:38 AM
I'm afraid I'm going to have drop out this year.  New kid and new job making golf very difficult to pencil into the schedule for the next couple of months.  Drew Groeger moves on. 
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Anthony Fowler on August 02, 2021, 10:48:09 AM
Congratulations, Bill, on the new kid and the new job! I'm sorry to hear that you had to drop out.

While we were waiting on the other match, Noah Weinberger and I got together for a home-and-home at Flossmoor and Black Sheep. We decided to play a 45-hole mega-match that would count as our GCA knockout match in the event that Noah advanced in the bracket. We had a fantastic two days of golf, and I was fortunate to come out on top.

All 27 holes at Black Sheep are really fun. The greens are interesting and different. We saw some really challenging/intimidating hole locations. And the exposed nature of the site means that wind plays a bigger factor there than at most Chicago-area courses.

Despite the fact that Flossmoor and Black Sheep were founded more than a century apart, Noah and I enjoyed discussing some of the similarities. Many of the greens are set at grade and move naturally with the land, which means an unusual number of greens running front to back on both courses. Both courses feature prairie grass and rugged bunkers that pose a significant challenge (unlike the manicured, fluffy, white bunkers at the clubs that have valet parking!).

Good luck to Drew and Noah in their match! 
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: C. Sturges on August 18, 2021, 10:50:00 AM
Hello Evan and George,


I hope you two are doing well.    Are you two planning on playing your match or should I contact Bill?   We are quickly loosing summer…


Thanks,
chris
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Evan Fleisher on August 19, 2021, 11:58:22 AM
Hello Evan and George,


I hope you two are doing well.    Are you two planning on playing your match or should I contact Bill?   We are quickly loosing summer…


Thanks,
chris


Based on current logistical issues, might be best if y'all just move on.  I am happy to concede if George wants to play, or maybe just skip our match altogether?
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: George Smiltins on August 24, 2021, 11:24:20 AM
Hello Evan and George,


I hope you two are doing well.    Are you two planning on playing your match or should I contact Bill?   We are quickly loosing summer…


Thanks,
chris


Sorry for the delay! All my fault. Evan and I are planning to play 9/1.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: George Smiltins on September 03, 2021, 12:04:07 AM
Evan and I played today at Canterbury in Cleveland and he prevailed 1 Up. Y’all better watch out for him at the Mashie. Rock solid play throughout the day. Perfect weather (whiff of fall in the air) and great company. Can’t ask for anything more.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Evan Fleisher on September 03, 2021, 09:02:32 AM
Evan and I played today at Canterbury in Cleveland and he prevailed 1 Up. Y’all better watch out for him at the Mashie. Rock solid play throughout the day. Perfect weather (whiff of fall in the air) and great company. Can’t ask for anything more.


You are too kind George, as I cannot ever remember anyone accusing me of "rock solid play".  ;)


It was a hard fought battle for both of us, and it is true that I did tear it up (relatively speaking) on the front, but then George remembered his swing on the back and he came roaring back making it a fight to the bitter end as I had to make a 6 footer on the 18th hole to prevail 1-up.


As for the architecture...Canterbury is presenting itself better and better each time I play it.  Recent year tree removals have continued and vistas are wide open; turf conditions were as good as I've seen them.  We lucked out for a fantastic weather day, although a combination of strong-ish northerly winds and some unusual (according to George) pin locations made for tricky approaches and putts.


I know Canterbury is looking to secure some future USGA / PGA events, hope they are successful in those bids as they clearly have the logistical infrastructure and golf course "chops" to make it happen.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Ken Fry on September 12, 2021, 06:37:09 PM
This past week I had the pleasure to host good friend Jason Thurman at South Bend CC.  I've enjoyed some great rounds and had a couple wins on my home course this season but this was not to be my day.  This was an ol' fashion beat down.

The day was an enjoyable opportunity to catch up with Jason, not something we've had the chance to do much.  This season's Knockout brought James Reese, Steve Salmen and finally Jason Thurman to SBCC.  I'm grateful I got to play with each man.

I believe Jason's parting shot to me was something about taking down some Freeman guy.  Anyone know who he's talking about?  Apparently he's had past success in this thing??

Thanks again James.

Ken
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Drew Groeger on September 13, 2021, 05:53:28 PM

I've been remiss in updating the thread. On the 1st, a picture-perfect day weather-wise, Noah graciously hosted me at Black Sheep Golf Club for our match. We started off going back and forth but I somehow eked out a 2 up lead at the turn. Noah came back strong, winning 3 of the next 5 holes to go 1 up himself. I leveled the match on 15 only to give it back on 16! I somehow found a way to curl in a 5-footer on 18 to finish all square. By virtue of a scorecard playoff (new to me) Noah conceded our match. How nice is that! So I move on to play Anthony Fowler and we've scheduled our match for this Saturday, the 18th.

Just a few words on the course: It was my first time at Black Sheep and I thought it was outstanding! The vibe is very relaxed and welcoming. The isolated setting is a big part of that, I think. The course has plenty of width so a player has options, however there's enough danger along the way to keep you honest. It was only mildly breezy the day we played, I can see this course baring its teeth if you catch it on a windy day. I really enjoyed the par 5s, tee shot-2nd shot combos are important to sort out if you want to get after them.

I had a great time at Black Sheep, much thanks to Noah again for hosting.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Anthony Fowler on September 18, 2021, 05:50:16 PM
Drew Groeger and I played our match at Flossmoor today, and I was fortunate to win. I really enjoyed the match and the conversation.

I'm looking forward to playing the winner of the top-left quadrant of the bracket.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on September 30, 2021, 06:11:09 PM

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Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on September 30, 2021, 06:12:57 PM
My apologies for taking so long to get an updated bracket out.  If you know you won't be able to play a future match, please let your opponent know so we can hopefully get the ko completed this year.


Cheers,


James
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Dan Moore on October 01, 2021, 09:30:51 AM
Zach and I are finally scheduled to play this Sunday. The winner will be sure to follow-up with John right away.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Dan Moore on October 03, 2021, 11:59:25 PM
Zack and I played today and he prevailed in 17 holes. We each gifted the other two of the first four holes but his 3 for 2 beat my birdie 3 on the 5th hole and he never let go after that. A couple more birdies and several stellar up and downs paved the way for his win. Zack hosted us at the old and improved Beverly CC and it was a joy to play and look at. Another example of width and scale being returned via the chainsaw and some great feature by Tyler Rae over the past few years. We’ll played all.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on October 08, 2021, 04:32:44 PM
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Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: C. Sturges on October 11, 2021, 11:46:50 AM
Evan and I got out to play yesterday at Sawmill Creek.   If you are looking for a course with large push up greens, this is your place.   The course was still in great shape after a couple of days of rain, a testament to there continued work on drainage.   The course is surrounded by marshes and Lake Erie, and in the past was soft because of this.


I was lucky to pull off the win.  I played my best round of the summer and Evan struggled.


Thanks for the game and look forward to our next round.


Mr. Steele, it looks like we get to play next!
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: C. Sturges on October 13, 2021, 11:37:58 AM
Yesterday had the first indications of Fall in the air while Bill Steele and I battled over the rolling terrain that is the Flint Golf Club.   I had little to no knowledge of what is a splendid Willie Park course tucked away in a back neighborhood of Flint, Michigan.
The course lays very naturally along the ground with the majority of greens being an extension of the fairway.   This was in stark contrast to the push up greens I played on Sunday.  The one similarity was the size of the greens and they are large at both courses.   My favorite holes at Flint are the ones where the greens are on mounds and green contours get real bold and fun.   The course also has a nice selection of long and short par 4’s where it is more important to plan you attack versus swinging driver as hard as you can, which is how I played them.   I was also much more lucky than I deserved with my strategy.
For me, Flint Golf Club is a true hidden gem that I look forward to getting to play again in the future.   Thank you Bill for setting it up and hosting us.   I had a great time as always!!!
With that I was able to get the win from Bill.   Thank you Bill!   I look forward to our next game.


Next up, Mr. Thurman!   I look forward to getting to see you hit the ball long and far.  Let’s figure out a place and time.
chris
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: John McCarthy on October 17, 2021, 10:22:38 PM
I played with Zach at Beverley today. I have played Beverley many times over the last 30 plus years.  But the course sings nowadays and the tree removal is truly paying dividends. There is also an expansion of greens that includes, for the want of a better team, outside wings many greens .  We have a lot of Beverley guys here that can be done it better.


I lost 7 and 6.  It does not even describe the beatdown I got.  Zack hits his irons so well.


Zack tells me Bev has the par 3 course, plus a putting course goes online next year.  Good for them.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Jeff Schley on April 05, 2022, 04:04:01 PM
Going to get a 2022 bracket going?  Like to try and play this year.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JReese on April 20, 2022, 12:00:38 PM

I've heard from quite a few they'd like to play again this year.....I'll get the ball rolling. 

Going to get a 2022 bracket going?  Like to try and play this year.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Cal Carlisle on April 20, 2022, 02:54:51 PM
I'd like to join. I'm here in Cleveland.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Jim O’Kane on April 21, 2022, 01:19:05 PM
I would like to be considered as well. Even though I am in Atlanta, I get back to the Chicagoland area a few times a year to visit family and squeeze in golf at some of my old haunts, as well as trying to tick the boxes a number of them that I missed when I was young and foolish and had the opportunity I had right before my eyes.


I missed so many -- some were private, and now public. Of the private ones, I just didn't get around to them participating in CDGA events. Then many public classic ones, like Cog Hill 4. Never played it. Only #2. And I'd like to see the rework done at Mt. Prospect that I hear so much about. 


And, some of the new ones that have come along in the Chicagoland area intrigue me immensely, like Prarie Landing and Stonewall Orchard.


In any event, the GCA KO sounds like tons of fun and a great format to see other courses and meet like minded folks.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Anthony Fowler on April 25, 2022, 01:11:43 PM
Great. I'd like to play again. I'm in Chicago.


Sadly, winter came before we were able to finish the 2021 bracket. Perhaps we can try to do that this spring. Better late than never!
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Ryan Taylor on April 25, 2022, 02:19:33 PM
I'm in again. Michigan or Chicagoland bracket will work! Thanks for setting up.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: JLahrman on April 25, 2022, 04:29:52 PM
Hey all, I'm not sure I'd be able to join this, but I am moving from Austin TX to Grand Rapids MI in June. Given the craziness of the move, and that I barely actually play golf anymore, I probably shouldn't sign up in the bracket. BUT I would love to meet some of the midwestern GCA folks, especially those around Michigan. Maybe I can even be a third for one of the matches to make sure all the scoring is up to snuff! I didn't want to start a new thread about my move, so I thought I'd post here. LMK if you'd like to try to meet up at some point, I'll need some new friends LOL.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Bill Seitz on April 26, 2022, 01:09:41 AM
I'll throw my name in again and maybe even play this time.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: Richard Hetzel on April 26, 2022, 07:00:36 AM
I'm in as well. Cincinnati.
Title: Re: Midwest USA GCA Knockout 2021
Post by: John McCarthy on April 26, 2022, 02:49:16 PM
I have enjoyed every match I have played, even the drubbing last fall at Beverly. 


Count me in.