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Title: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Mike Feeney on March 20, 2020, 08:45:27 AM
In the spirit of misery likes company:

East Lothian Tour - 9 days in mid-May, 8 people
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Eric Smith on March 20, 2020, 08:51:49 AM
Had a flight booked to Houston last week to play Wolf Point. :'(
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Post by: Jeff_Mingay on March 20, 2020, 09:23:03 AM
Listing postponed projects might be interesting, too. Although, I'd rather not talk about it  :'(
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: A.G._Crockett on March 20, 2020, 09:34:00 AM
Late May trip to Scottsdale in definite jeopardy.  We can wait to decide, but I'd make it well less than 50-50.
Lots of CGA four ball senior tournaments that I was signed up for are out, of course. 

I remind myself that these are first world problems; it's the hourly folks and the food and beverage folks at the courses who are really going to suffer.  Golf needs me at this moment much, much more than I need golf.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Joe Leenheer on March 20, 2020, 09:57:31 AM
Was supposed to be in Riviera Maya this week.....had two rounds at El Camaleon on the books.  [size=78%] [/size]




Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Jeff Schley on March 20, 2020, 10:04:47 AM
Mid April 12 day Japan golf trip is cancelled, hope to reschedule wtih my small group next year.
End of May trip to London/Highlands of Scotland also in jeopardy.
Heck I hope I'm just able to go back to the US in July at this point to see my family.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Jim Tang on March 20, 2020, 10:48:18 AM
Three day trip to Bluejack National for five guys shut down.  Rescheduled for late October.
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Post by: Jim Franklin on March 20, 2020, 10:58:11 AM
Pebble Beach Monday cancelled. Rescheduled for August depending on when my daughter goes back to school.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Dan Boerger on March 20, 2020, 11:05:29 AM
Had a week's stay at the Fairmont in St. Andrews booked for next month. Will be looking forward to it more than ever when this subsides.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Scott Senior on March 20, 2020, 11:25:25 AM
Masters trip canceled (with 3 days of golf)...Aiken Golf Club not giving refunds for Master week tee times (if canceled after March 15th).


Golf trip to San Francisco canceled mid April.


Would have been a fun month.....
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Matt_Cohn on March 20, 2020, 12:19:37 PM
Holidays are tournaments for me. My events canceled or postponed so far:


Commuters at Corica Park (canceled)
Southern California Mid-Am at Mission Viejo CC (postponed)
US Open Local at The Preserve (???)


More to come I'm sure—next would be NCGA Four-Ball at Spyglass. Hoping California Amateur at Torrey Pines can still be played.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: MCirba on March 20, 2020, 12:26:44 PM
A long weekend on the Palm Coast the first week of June now looks likely to be canceled.   Glad I haven't yet booked that flight.

More just missing my regular rounds with friends now that PA has shut down all businesses not involved in "life-sustaining" activities.  "Life enhancing" activities like golf courses didn't make the cut.   
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Post by: Ian Mackenzie on March 20, 2020, 01:14:14 PM
Trip to Dornoch in late April cancelled.
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Post by: John Foley on March 20, 2020, 01:39:03 PM
8 guys in Scottsdale for a 4 day trip week after Easter.


Now the home course is closed indefinitely.



Oh well. Stay safe.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Joel_Stewart on March 20, 2020, 02:50:45 PM
Luckily I went to Scottsdale two weeks ago.


Trip to Bandon in April is postponed.


Trip to Sand Valley in late May looks iffy.


Pine Valley trip up in the air.


The economic impact on the travel and golf industry is immense.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Guy Nicholson on March 20, 2020, 03:07:25 PM
My first Masters, with Aiken booked. (We cancelled in time even though they tried to talk us out of it.)


Still hoping we can salvage issue 2 of Catalogue 18 ... everything can be transmitted digitally as long as the printer can still get ink and paper and the international postal systems keep operating. Might be just the right moment for a book of gorgeous course photos.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Ira Fishman on March 20, 2020, 03:42:12 PM
Late May trip to Scottsdale in definite jeopardy.  We can wait to decide, but I'd make it well less than 50-50.
Lots of CGA four ball senior tournaments that I was signed up for are out, of course. 

I remind myself that these are first world problems; it's the hourly folks and the food and beverage folks at the courses who are really going to suffer.  Golf needs me at this moment much, much more than I need golf.


A.G. makes a great point. And it is not just the people who work at the courses. We have a return trip to Scotland this summer where we are/were looking forward to staying at the same B&B and seeing the same taxi operators as last year plus some of the same bars and restaurants. Fingers crossed that late June/early July will be okay...for us, but more importantly for the folks who rely on our visits.


Ira
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Post by: Ulrich Mayring on March 20, 2020, 04:51:36 PM
It seems that there's actually a way to salvage those summer/fall holidays for a few of us: bring out the hammer now.

https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56 (https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56)
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Bill Gayne on March 20, 2020, 06:48:29 PM
I had a trip to St Andrews for the end of April cancelled.


Are the Aiken and Palmetto Masters week tee times transferrable? If so offer them for resale and you will get some return on your payment.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Tim Martin on March 20, 2020, 07:17:08 PM
I had a trip to St Andrews for the end of April cancelled.


Are the Aiken and Palmetto Masters week tee times transferrable? If so offer them for resale and you will get some return on your payment.



Palmetto was gracious enough to have me back the following year in the Fall after a Masters week rainout.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: David_Elvins on March 20, 2020, 07:17:54 PM
Forget your trips being canceled, this is quite possibly the end of golf as we know it. 


Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: John Kavanaugh on March 20, 2020, 07:32:02 PM
Forget your trips being canceled, this is quite possibly the end of golf as we know it.


How is that? I do like the possibility of ending unaccompanied rounds. And the thought of supporting your local private club. Does anyone really live where they need to fly to play golf?
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Bill Gayne on March 20, 2020, 07:52:19 PM
Forget your trips being canceled, this is quite possibly the end of golf as we know it.


Explain how it's the end of golf?
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Adam G on March 20, 2020, 07:59:44 PM
Was gonna be my first time playing links golf at the Old Course and North Berwick. Oh well.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Dan Gallaway on March 20, 2020, 08:00:40 PM
Feverishly (too soon?) sending out emails to reschedule Scotland for 2021
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Ash Towe on March 20, 2020, 08:31:05 PM
6 days in Melbourne postponed for at least a year.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: David_Elvins on March 20, 2020, 08:44:36 PM
Forget your trips being canceled, this is quite possibly the end of golf as we know it.

Explain how it's the end of golf?


Didn't say this was the end of golf. Just possibly the end of golf as we know it. 


If the median outcome here is a 2 year "great depression" that has massive implications for the game of golf that don't involve delaying until 2021 what we canceled in 2020.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: John Kavanaugh on March 20, 2020, 08:54:55 PM
Forget your trips being canceled, this is quite possibly the end of golf as we know it.

Explain how it's the end of golf?


Didn't say this was the end of golf. Just possibly the end of golf as we know it. 


If the median outcome here is a 2 year "great depression" that has massive implications for the game of golf that don't involve delaying until 2021 what we canceled in 2020.


If that turns out to be true all the people on this site who don't play golf anyway will get everything they always wanted.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Michael Wolf on March 20, 2020, 09:59:06 PM
Had plans for a May trip starting in St Enodoc and working my way up the coastline into Wales. No cancelation emails from the clubs yet, but I'm sure they'll hit the inbox any day.


Of course I'm disappointed. But I can take solace that I lucked out in fitting 3 great weeks in Australia into the exact window between the end of the bushfire smoke and the CV travel restrictions. Very lucky.


Michael
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Mike_Clayton on March 20, 2020, 11:14:58 PM
No caddying for me at the US Open for Lukas Michel - the 'kid' from Metropolitan who won the Mid-Am last year. He arrived back from US this morning and started his 14-day quarantine. But not after spending last week playing at Augusta.
Hopefully he gets to play both either later this year or next year - assuming the exemption carries over.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Bernie Bell on March 21, 2020, 07:53:09 AM
Seems a little early in the game, and pessimistic, to be calling the end of anything as we know it.  Even if it does come to pass that COVID and the world's first voluntarily-induced recession spell the "end of golf as we know it," might not some changes be for the better?  Participation rates near me are sky high.  Full tee sheets at publics and the privates that remain open.  Will this carry over once the usual pastimes and family commitments return?  In tough times, will golfers believe that what makes golf is golf, as they are experiencing it now, and not the trappings?  In tough times, will operators/clubs see opportunity in offering affordable golf as golf without trappings, $$$ maintenance, etc?  Might both golfers' attention and industry opportunity return to and improve the solid, time-tested courses where people live and away from bucket list courses far removed?  More belt-notching with near-by funs and favorites, and less with far-away "greats"?  Not all change would be for the best, of course.  But I can imagine a lot that might be.  Golf is great.  Golf will be fine.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Ulrich Mayring on March 21, 2020, 08:06:53 AM
I agree, Golf will be fine. The economy will be fine. Society will be fine - although I suspect a different society with different values.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: John Kavanaugh on March 21, 2020, 08:16:02 AM
Will raters ever be able to cold call a course again?
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Post by: Jay Mickle on March 21, 2020, 09:15:04 AM
I have a hard time understanding any travel at this time. It seems to just be a way to spread the virus and prolong the outbreak. I am happy to play locally, walking and carrying. Likely to miss a 7 day New Jersey trip and the BUDA. Still hopeful  but.....
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: John Kavanaugh on March 21, 2020, 09:26:37 AM
Jay, do you believe that Pinehurst could be putting your community at harm by staying open for play for anyone from anywhere?
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Post by: David_Tepper on March 21, 2020, 08:35:10 PM
United has suspended almost all of their international flights thru the end of April:
https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/Routes-Airlines-roundup-cuts-15146063.php

Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Richard Fisher on March 23, 2020, 06:08:55 AM
Woodhall Spa outing next weekend
Usual Gogs May tour, this time to Seaton Carew, Hartlepool, Cleveland, clearly endangered, as is June hosting of American friends coming to Harlech and Aberdovey prior to Curtis Cup at Conwy
Various National Trust parks and other public open spaces are being closed here in the UK, and I guess it is a real question for how long we are going to able to use courses at all (as opposed to their club facilities, already shut down)…
Stay safe everybody
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Post by: Sean_A on March 23, 2020, 06:49:07 AM
So far its not been too bad for me.  Woodhall Spa/Seacroft & Brancaster/Hunstanton trips cancelled postponed.  I am still hoping to visit Scotland in the summer, but now I am beginning to doubt it will happen.  I feel sorry for folks like Sweet Lou who had bucket list trips cancelled.

Ciao
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on March 23, 2020, 07:25:02 AM
No major casualties but I cancelled a little trip to Hilton Head and Frederick for April and Hidden Creek in May. I can do them at another date. I have trips to Jerusalem in October and Ireland in November that I hope will be unaffected.
Title: Re: Coronavirus 2020: Golf Holiday Casualty List
Post by: Thomas Dai on March 23, 2020, 02:18:48 PM
My sympathies to all who have had trips cancelled or have had to defer them and to those in locations where the income generated by such visits is important.
I had three trips in place for the next few months. Indeed I am supposed to be away on a trip as I type this but am at home instead, whilst the two others scheduled for the next few months have also been cancelled (or rather hopefully just postponed until circumstances alleviate).
Stay safe.
Atb