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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: ward peyronnin on January 27, 2020, 09:30:03 AM
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What merits a DQ from those hallowed ranks?
Yeamans is perhaps my favorite place in golf and their longtime restoration is impressive, However now there is rye everywhere, even underplanting the woods on the road in, and it is highly intentional. I missed the recent dormant fast fairways and greens as these are a bit sticky but still enjoyable, but the pro explained members wanted green during the brief "season" down here.
He explained that is the way it was maintained originally and they had even introduced grasses to promote the overseeding; I reckon on the greens so this is no experiment but policy going forward.
Does this overseeding turn compromise Yeaman's standing in the celestial 147?
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It's a Raynor course, and Ran is a member, so I'd guess it stays.
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The overseeding news is disappointing especially in light of many of the courses in that region are moving away from doing so.
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Winter membership.Makes perfect sense to shine when the members are there.Bermuda can get downright dicey in March and April after a busy season on dormant turf,and this is when an overseeded course really shines
What's next? disqualifying Palmetto?
Palatka was overseeded as well-so if one visits in June during transition they may not share my rosy view.Theyve had a ton of rain in the last week/month and semi soft and brown wouldn't have been better than semi soft and green.Still wouldve been semi soft.
Always tradeoffs and as I've stated before policies very often change and as Tom Doak has pointed out clubs often rotate year to year to keep the bermuda stronger.
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Does Yeamans Hall still have the summer membership for locals?
When would the rye burnoff be?
Thank you
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Does Yeamans Hall still have the summer membership for locals?
When would the rye burnoff be?
Thank you
Yes they do.
Burn off is a function of weather and membership usage patterns.
At a place like Yeamans with a traditional seasonal northern membership I'd guess they try to hang on into mid May a la Augusta.
It could be tougher at a Palatka where they overseeded greens as well and I'd guess the rye was covering quite a few dirt fairway and green spots.At Ocala, where they do not overseed there were quite a few bare dirt spots on greens-easily band aided in winter with rye but only compounds the problem come summer as the transitioning rye competes with the bermuda.But it might make sense on a course with heavy winter play.
I enjoy firm fast conditions as much as the next guy but the firm fast of Ohoopee has way more to do with the sand base and minimal play than the choice to not overseed.
I will say the biggest downside to overseeing is the loss of a prime month (October) and the grassy moisture in rye in November which can be a fantastic time to play dormant to semi dormant golf.
Early spring/late winter on dormancy can get dicey during a wet winter on a busy winter course-especially one with constant cart traffic.
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From this Yankee's PoV, it seems like dormant bermuda is the only really good time to play on bermuda!
Ciao
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From this Yankee's PoV, it seems like dormant bermuda is the only really good time to play on bermuda!
Ciao
You need to come visit us in Australia one of these years.
Agree the first couple of months of dormancy are the peak for couch (as we call it), but maintained well on firm ground, it’s a pretty agreeable turf to play off in the summer as well.