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Title: OT Hoodies?
Post by: mike_malone on October 20, 2019, 04:30:54 PM
Justin Thomas and Rocco Mediate wearing hoodies. I like it.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Marty Bonnar on October 20, 2019, 04:32:22 PM
Justin Thomas and Rocco Mediate wearing hoodies. I like it.


Stick to your Leven gilet!
 8)
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: mike_malone on October 20, 2019, 04:39:28 PM
Justin Thomas and Rocco Mediate wearing hoodies. I like it.


Stick to your Leven gilet!
 8)
Ok Marty. Whatever that means I’m for it.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Marty Bonnar on October 20, 2019, 04:48:09 PM
Justin Thomas and Rocco Mediate wearing hoodies. I like it.


Stick to your Leven gilet!
 8)
Ok Marty. Whatever that means I’m for it.


You furriners probably call them ‘bodywarmers’.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Wayne_Kozun on July 09, 2021, 04:51:39 PM
Lots of hoodies at the Scottish Open today. 

OT - WTF thinks abrdn makes sense as a brand for an asset management firm?
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: David_Tepper on July 09, 2021, 05:12:49 PM
Danielle Kang wears one on the LPGA Tour.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Wayne_Kozun on July 09, 2021, 05:20:38 PM
Today they were worn by at least the following - Justin Thomas, Collin Morikawa and Lee Westwood.  And that is only the ones that I noticed.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Craig Sweet on July 09, 2021, 11:18:00 PM
Linksoul makes a nice one...
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Sean_A on July 10, 2021, 03:51:44 AM
Justin Thomas and Rocco Mediate wearing hoodies. I like it.


Stick to your Leven gilet!
 8)
Ok Marty. Whatever that means I’m for it.

Sleeveless lightweight jacket. Yer welcome.

I don't like hoodies, but so what.

Ciao
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Thomas Dai on July 10, 2021, 07:21:59 AM
Hood up when walking, hood down when playing a shot? Not my favourite look and I would have thought a bit hasslesome in a wind.
Once upon a time in cold or wet weather players would wear full length overcoats between shots (with the caddies holding the coats when the players were hitting a shot).
Atb


Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: jeffwarne on July 10, 2021, 07:28:12 AM
No problem with the look.
I have been gifted several over the years-mostly from skiing destinations, but they never seem to fit.
Too tight in the shoulders and neck opening too small
can't imagine playing golf in one, though perhaps golf hoodies fit me better.
Just don't really need the hood ;D
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Tim Martin on July 16, 2021, 06:06:54 AM
Just don't really need the hood ;D


Is there any functionality for the hood itself? If weather is such that you need something on your head I would think regular cap, ski cap, or rain hat. I’m watching Justin Thomas in this morning’s round at the British and am not feeling the hoodie.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Sean_A on July 16, 2021, 06:33:50 AM
I don't understand the need for a mini cape. Thug clothing 😎.

Ciao
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Mike Sweeney on July 16, 2021, 06:44:13 AM
Approved by Mike Young!!


(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/568f1190df40f3f01bbe2075/1617284609022-5BVRCC17LG0WZC4KK6U5/IMG_1277.jpeg?format=2500w)
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Carl Johnson on July 17, 2021, 07:10:38 PM
Fashion.  I assume their clothing sponsors are requiring they wear these for $$$, and that they are being adequately compensated, which is what pro golf is all about.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: JohnVDB on July 17, 2021, 08:13:23 PM
Does Justin have a clothing contract.  He lost his Ralph Lauren one didn’t he?
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Jerry Kluger on July 17, 2021, 10:57:36 PM
I believe it was Tyrrell Hatton who started the hoodie as a fashion statement in 2020 at the BMW PGA Championship in Wentworth so it is a UK fashion statement not a US one.
https://www.golfchannel.com/news/tyrrell-hatton-hoodie-controversy-its-comfy-whats-issue
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Tom_Doak on July 18, 2021, 08:22:28 AM
Perhaps it’s a political statement?


Seems unlikely from the PGA TOUR, but NBA players famously wore hoodies in protest a few years ago, and England’s football team has been dealing with fallout over racist posts on social media this past week.


Personally, I think golfers (like everyone else) should wear whatever makes them comfortable, and anybody who doesn’t like it should mind their own business, but you all know what a bomb-throwing radical I am.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: William_G on July 18, 2021, 11:56:53 AM
Perhaps it’s a political statement?


Seems unlikely from the PGA TOUR, but NBA players famously wore hoodies in protest a few years ago, and England’s football team has been dealing with fallout over racist posts on social media this past week.


Personally, I think golfers (like everyone else) should wear whatever makes them comfortable, and anybody who doesn’t like it should mind their own business, but you all know what a bomb-throwing radical I am.


political, wow!
good try, guess again,  geeeez man
wore my light hoodie on my dog walk this AM on the golf course
light tech hoodies are an awesome option in the t-shirt drawer
very civilized and apolitical at best
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: JMEvensky on July 18, 2021, 01:29:38 PM
Perhaps it’s a political statement?


Seems unlikely from the PGA TOUR, but NBA players famously wore hoodies in protest a few years ago, and England’s football team has been dealing with fallout over racist posts on social media this past week.


Personally, I think golfers (like everyone else) should wear whatever makes them comfortable, and anybody who doesn’t like it should mind their own business, but you all know what a bomb-throwing radical I am.


political, wow!
good try, guess again,  geeeez man
wore my light hoodie on my dog walk this AM on the golf course
light tech hoodies are an awesome option in the t-shirt drawer
very civilized and apolitical at best


william g, I know neither you nor Tom Doak but have read your ad hominem screeds for a while. Why do you have such a hard on for him? Guessing most on this board appreciate his input--his bones were made long ago in golf course design. Who the hell are you? Why not find a board dedicated to something with which you're familiar? Maybe your input would be welcomed there.


And the affectation of lower case case letters and lack of punctuation worked for ee cummings--for you, not so much. Your unfamiliarity with basic English syntax just makes your posts even less worthwhile.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Gib_Papazian on July 20, 2021, 03:50:37 PM
I am going with my good friend Professor Tom. Wear whatever is comfortable, things change. Tennis dorks no longer wear dress white outfits (nor do they play with wooden rackets), which is particularly good in the Ladies bracket . . . . the only reason I watch that boring sport is because the chicks are normally wearing smokin' hot outfits that show off their legs.

Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Mike Hendren on July 20, 2021, 04:30:25 PM

Skip the ad:

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Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: jeffwarne on July 20, 2021, 06:28:30 PM
Perhaps it’s a political statement?


Seems unlikely from the PGA TOUR, but NBA players famously wore hoodies in protest a few years ago, and England’s football team has been dealing with fallout over racist posts on social media this past week.


Personally, I think golfers (like everyone else) should wear whatever makes them comfortable, and anybody who doesn’t like it should mind their own business, but you all know what a bomb-throwing radical I am.


political, wow!
good try, guess again,  geeeez man
wore my light hoodie on my dog walk this AM on the golf course
light tech hoodies are an awesome option in the t-shirt drawer
very civilized and apolitical at best


william g, I know neither you nor Tom Doak but have read your ad hominem screeds for a while. Why do you have such a hard on for him? Guessing most on this board appreciate his input--his bones were made long ago in golf course design. Who the hell are you? Why not find a board dedicated to something with which you're familiar? Maybe your input would be welcomed there.


And the affectation of lower case case letters and lack of punctuation worked for ee cummings--for you, not so much. Your unfamiliarity with basic English syntax just makes your posts even less worthwhile.


+1
This is not the first, second or even third time I've seen you troll the man.
(and to be fair the recent comments, taken by themselves are tame)
I appreciate Tom's input on this board, as do many others, and I'm not sure why the moderator would put up with someone who constantly trolls him.
Constantly.
Cease and desist.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Tim Martin on October 24, 2022, 08:17:04 AM
I see that there are now hooded tees. Why?
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Jim Franklin on October 25, 2022, 04:35:28 PM
Hoodies not allowed at Baltimore Country Club nor is the new, tame camo gear. Oh, and mock turtlenecks not allowed either. We are the stuffy country club for sure. Ridiculous.


Funny, a former MLB player teed off wearing a hoodie and not one board member, golf professional said a thing. I guess it depends on your status whether you can wear a hoodie or not.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Jerry Kluger on October 26, 2022, 03:30:51 PM
Relative to this thread and proper dress - did anyone notice Rocco Mediate's attire at the SAS Championship. He wore a white polo shirt and sweat pants during his round - quite surprised that he did it twice and the PGA Tour didn't say anything.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Ian Mackenzie on October 26, 2022, 05:22:15 PM
Relative to this thread and proper dress - did anyone notice Rocco Mediate's attire at the SAS Championship. He wore a white polo shirt and sweat pants during his round - quite surprised that he did it twice and the PGA Tour didn't say anything.


Have also seen Rocco with shirt untucked and it drew the thinly disguised scorn from TGC announcers.


It all started with that stupid-ass mock turtleneck 15 or so years ago.
There is indeed a slippery slope.


Yet another sign that the apocalypse is upon us...;-)


(Reference to old Sports Illustrated)
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Mark Fedeli on October 27, 2022, 09:41:48 AM
Shirt collars started as pure ornament. Frippery. So I'm not sure why hoodies are held to any higher standard. Their popularity has a lot to do with the balance and silhouette one prefers from their clothing. For some, the heft of the hood provides comfort and security in the same way others only feel comfortable in shorts, or in long sleeves, or with a collar, or without. And the appeal of the front pocket goes without saying, especially for those who never know where to put their hands. These things are rarely complicated.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Andrew Carr on October 31, 2022, 09:44:12 PM
For no rational reason, I am enraged by the sight of hoodies on a golf course.  I also wrote the PGA Tour when I first noticed Nick Watney wear a Mock Neck, so I recognize that I'm in the minority position here, but if Mock Necks and Hoodies are okay, where is the line for each of you?  Are Pajamas okay?  T-Shirts?  Jeans?


I also understand history and that Nick Watney wasn't the first to wear a mock neck, but I wasn't following professional golf in 2003 when Tiger debuted the shirt.



I personally wish the polo didn't happen and shirt and tie were still normal attire for golf, but again, I'm in the minority.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Ben Hollerbach on October 31, 2022, 11:53:57 PM

I also understand history and that Nick Watney wasn't the first to wear a mock neck, but I wasn't following professional golf in 2003 when Tiger debuted the shirt.

The mock turtleneck was worn by the likes of Jack and Player in the sixties, and I don’t believe even they were the first to wear them.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Greg Hohman on November 01, 2022, 07:37:42 AM
Shirt collars started as pure ornament. Frippery. So I'm not sure why hoodies are held to any higher standard. Their popularity has a lot to do with the balance and silhouette one prefers from their clothing. For some, the heft of the hood provides comfort and security in the same way others only feel comfortable in shorts, or in long sleeves, or with a collar, or without. And the appeal of the front pocket goes without saying, especially for those who never know where to put their hands. These things are rarely complicated.


Mark, your points are new to me and in a (good) way complicated. :D
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Erik J. Barzeski on November 01, 2022, 08:51:11 AM
I feel like being annoyed by something like hoodies is like being enraged by a bad print on a shirt, or joggers, or high-top golf shoes, or at one time visors, or thick ties vs. skinny ties, etc. Some people probably objected to quarter-zips because they weren't sweaters. Or when golfers wore full tweed outfits, someone objected to the first non-jacketed golfer, we can be sure.

Style changes. I may not like how the styles look, or want to wear them myself, but I try not to care what other people are doing.

Will I wear jeans on a golf course, or joggers? No, probably not. I have worn a hoodie because… they're comfortable. Especially Rhoback hoodies.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Rob Marshall on November 01, 2022, 12:52:48 PM
Old guys like me (60) don’t like change in tradition…..but it’s going to happen. If you want to wear a hoodie no problem. Hat backwards no problem. Shirt untucked no problem.  Just turn your music down so I can’t hear it! Please! That’s just disrespectful imo.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Kalen Braley on November 01, 2022, 01:20:52 PM
Old guys like me (60) don’t like change in tradition…..but it’s going to happen. If you want to wear a hoodie no problem. Hat backwards no problem. Shirt untucked no problem.  Just turn your music down so I can’t hear it! Please! That’s just disrespectful imo.


That's a triple amen from me.

Apparel and fashion is hopelessly arbitray.  40 years from now when we're pushing daisies, today's twenty somethings will be wishing for the good ole days when golfers were 'respectful' cause they wore hoodies and jeans on the course.

P.S.  I did encounter music on the course just last weekend, but thankfully it was at least music that I really liked.  :D
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Ian Mackenzie on November 01, 2022, 02:32:42 PM
There are "HOODies", then their are today's hoodies.


My initial impression of a hoody was that of a thick grey sweat shirt hoody with (like) a NY Jets logo on the front.


Nope, not today.


Today's hoodies are form-firtting and made from the latest tech fabrics.
I rarely see players pull up the hoods,but hear that the higher collar maks the neck warmer.


Our club is seriously old school, but the pro sells a ton of "tech hoodies" in the shop and the sub 35 yo crowd eats them up.


I was given one during an event and I didnt even try it on...gave it directly to me 26 yo son and he was psyched!

Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Tim Martin on November 01, 2022, 02:50:25 PM
I feel like being annoyed by something like hoodies is like being enraged by a bad print on a shirt, or joggers, or high-top golf shoes, or at one time visors, or thick ties vs. skinny ties, etc.


You need to work on your use of adjectives. “Annoyed” is not synonymous with “enraged.” I’ll bet when you run away from an errant tee shot instead of employing the traditional duck and cover you look stunning as your form fitting hoodie accentuates your every movement. ;)
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Erik J. Barzeski on November 01, 2022, 03:11:00 PM
You need to work on your use of adjectives. “Annoyed” is not synonymous with “enraged.” I’ll bet when you run away from an errant tee shot instead of employing the traditional duck and cover you look stunning as your form fitting hoodie accentuates your every movement. ;)
Tim, if you're gonna be a troll, at least try to do it well.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Tim Martin on November 01, 2022, 03:24:55 PM
You need to work on your use of adjectives. “Annoyed” is not synonymous with “enraged.” I’ll bet when you run away from an errant tee shot instead of employing the traditional duck and cover you look stunning as your form fitting hoodie accentuates your every movement. ;)
Tim, if you're gonna be a troll, at least try to do it well.


Clever response ::)
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: David Cronan on November 01, 2022, 03:31:09 PM
It's fashion. One can only reinvent the wheel so many times. In retrospect, who would give a double thumbs up to the checked, polyester pants of yesteryear? Apparel brands have 2 seasons/year to grab the attention of the end user and get them to excited enough to purchase their wares. Hoodies today are the bell bottoms of yesteryear.


An honest question: would you rather have your picture taken wearing a form-fitting, cashmere hoodie of today or some bell bottomed polyester pants, wide white belt and polyester shirt of the 70s?


There is no wrong answer: only bad designs.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Rob Marshall on November 01, 2022, 04:31:31 PM
You need to work on your use of adjectives. “Annoyed” is not synonymous with “enraged.” I’ll bet when you run away from an errant tee shot instead of employing the traditional duck and cover you look stunning as your form fitting hoodie accentuates your every movement. ;)
Tim, if you're gonna be a troll, at least try to do it well.


Tim, I personal thought it was well done. You almost made me laugh hard enough to spit out my Ultra on the airport bar. I’d forgotten about running vs the duck and cover…..classic.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Daryl David on November 02, 2022, 02:30:56 AM
You need to work on your use of adjectives. “Annoyed” is not synonymous with “enraged.” I’ll bet when you run away from an errant tee shot instead of employing the traditional duck and cover you look stunning as your form fitting hoodie accentuates your every movement. ;)
Tim, if you're gonna be a troll, at least try to do it well.


Tim, I personal thought it was well done. You almost made me laugh hard enough to spit out my Ultra on the airport bar. I’d forgotten about running vs the duck and cover…..classic.


+1
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Mike_Trenham on November 03, 2022, 09:48:13 PM

It’s not just old school clubs that want to ban hoodies.


https://www.inquirer.com/news/hoodie-ban-arrests-academy-park-sharon-hill-fights-20221103.html (https://www.inquirer.com/news/hoodie-ban-arrests-academy-park-sharon-hill-fights-20221103.html)


Full disclosure I have two hoodies from Zero Restriction which are about the most comfortable late season gear I’ve ever owned.  I wear them at my home club and around town but think twice when it’s a road game.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Cal Carlisle on November 03, 2022, 10:53:47 PM
Not my bag, but if it makes other people happy? Go for it.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Ally Mcintosh on November 04, 2022, 03:00:36 AM
Sure, it wasn’t so long ago that Tony Blair banned hoodies all together, never mind just on the golf course.


They are clearly a controversial youth-culture choice of clothing for some conservative (with a small “c”) types.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Peter Sayegh on November 04, 2022, 08:09:51 AM



Personally, I think golfers (like everyone else) should wear whatever makes them comfortable, and anybody who doesn’t like it should mind their own business, but you all know what a bomb-throwing radical I am.

Not my bag, but if it makes other people happy? Go for it.

My buddy and I still laugh at the time (thirty years ago) the pro at Woodlake in NJ (a public course) was reluctant to let us play without a collar showing. It was January. Sleeting. Not another player on the course. An old school hooded sweatshirt was the only thing that would cover our three thermal long-sleeve shirts.

Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Tony_Muldoon on November 04, 2022, 10:44:27 AM


P.S.  I did encounter music on the course just last weekend, but thankfully it was at least music that I really liked.  :D


I was waiting for someone to bring music on the course up and this is as wrong a response as can be.


If I don't choose to look at your hoodie I can look the other way.  If you are playing music I can't "unhear" it. Irrelevant if I like it or not, I play golf to go into a natural setting.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Kyle Harris on November 04, 2022, 02:50:44 PM
For no rational reason, I am enraged by the sight of hoodies on a golf course.  I also wrote the PGA Tour when I first noticed Nick Watney wear a Mock Neck, so I recognize that I'm in the minority position here, but if Mock Necks and Hoodies are okay, where is the line for each of you?  Are Pajamas okay?  T-Shirts?  Jeans?


I also understand history and that Nick Watney wasn't the first to wear a mock neck, but I wasn't following professional golf in 2003 when Tiger debuted the shirt.



I personally wish the polo didn't happen and shirt and tie were still normal attire for golf, but again, I'm in the minority.


Shirt and tie as the normal attire?! You claim to understand the history and yet you want such horrible taste in clothing on the golf course!


If you truly understood the history those letters would be advocating for respecting the tradition of the true golfers of the 17th century.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Mike Bodo on November 04, 2022, 03:09:36 PM
You think there was a big brouhaha amongst the golfing aristocracy when knickerbockers (Plus Fours) started making their appearance on courses and clubs in the 1920's? Probably, but eventually people got over it and moved on. Same, too, will happen with athletic hoodies. A few years from now they'll be commonplace and accepted nearly everywhere.


Times change, people change and tastes change. If certain trends in apparel gets more people to take up the game and head out to the course because the sport's perceived as being hip, then I'm all for it.
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Kalen Braley on November 04, 2022, 03:11:15 PM


P.S.  I did encounter music on the course just last weekend, but thankfully it was at least music that I really liked.  :D

I was waiting for someone to bring music on the course up and this is as wrong a response as can be.

If I don't choose to look at your hoodie I can look the other way.  If you are playing music I can't "unhear" it. Irrelevant if I like it or not, I play golf to go into a natural setting.

Tony,

I should clarify, I'm with you as I'm no fan of it either and wish courses did more to discourage it.

But in my case it was at least palatable as we we're headed in two different directions on the course, and as mentioned it was one of my fave groups!
Title: Re: OT Hoodies?
Post by: Andrew Carr on November 07, 2022, 01:17:50 PM

I'll yield to something dressier.  I wear collared PJs, again I know I'm in the minority but I wish there was a place where I didn't feel like such an alien.  The kid getting a hole in one at Cypress was wearing a hoodie!  If it's allowed there, is there no place sheltered from such casual attire?

For no rational reason, I am enraged by the sight of hoodies on a golf course.  I also wrote the PGA Tour when I first noticed Nick Watney wear a Mock Neck, so I recognize that I'm in the minority position here, but if Mock Necks and Hoodies are okay, where is the line for each of you?  Are Pajamas okay?  T-Shirts?  Jeans?


I also understand history and that Nick Watney wasn't the first to wear a mock neck, but I wasn't following professional golf in 2003 when Tiger debuted the shirt.



I personally wish the polo didn't happen and shirt and tie were still normal attire for golf, but again, I'm in the minority.


Shirt and tie as the normal attire?! You claim to understand the history and yet you want such horrible taste in clothing on the golf course!


If you truly understood the history those letters would be advocating for respecting the tradition of the true golfers of the 17th century.