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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: Kyle Harris on January 10, 2017, 08:45:49 AM
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I suspect this may generate some interesting responses and thoughts.
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Two categories: Public and Private.
Approximately where do you live?
Why?
Who designed it?
What would the answer be if you played it your next round?
What's stopping you?
Also, if you've only been in your current location for under two years, how do these answers change with your previous address?
My answers:
Lake Morton Historic District, Lakeland, FL
Course: Shalamar Creek 2.8 miles away
Ron Garl
It's not particularly on my radar and I consistently forget about it.
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I live in Manhattan.
Private - Wykagyl in New Rochelle - http://golfclubatlas.com/courses-by-country/usa/wykagyl-country-club/ (http://golfclubatlas.com/courses-by-country/usa/wykagyl-country-club/) Just have not done it, and the Coore and Crenshaw work makes me want to play it. They have lots of outings but prefer to play with a member and I don't know any directly.
Public - Dyker Beach in Brooklyn - My general rule for city courses is below 50 degrees or first out in the AM. Again just have not done it -http://www.dykerbeachgc.com/golf-tee-times
Staten Island - I have a romance with "ferry access" golf courses. I took the Staten Island Ferry recently and Silver Lake has a van that picks you up, so I need to give it a try - http://www.silverlakegolf.com (http://www.silverlakegolf.com)
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3 miles away are Archerfield(DJ Russell) and The Renaissance Club (Doak) and 4 miles away is Muirfield .
Shamefully I've not played any them - Why? Combination of not finding the right dates with playing
partners who want to play there and not wanting to pay top dollar to play there solo.
Ian
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What?!?! No Dyker For You, Sweeney??
You really need to get out more.
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What?!?! No Dyker For You, Sweeney??
You really need to get out more.
I'm quite looking forward to your contribution on this thread.
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Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
Course: Losantiville Country Club 0.8 miles away
Tom Bendelow
Didn't know a member there until this past Fall when I found out that one of my high school buddies just joined. Hoping to check it out sometime this year.
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I live on the north side of the city of Chicago.
1. Private: have never played Bryn Mawr done by Langford/Moreau just 6 miles from my house. I would expect I would be complimentary of the Forse/Nagle work done there a few years ago. Nothing is stopping me from playing it, I guess.
2. Public: Jackson Park - the topic of recent a recent GCA thread as Tiger is said to be involved in a project to renovate it. It was designed by Tom Bendelow! I would expect that I would be impatient to finish the round in under 5 hours. 18 hole green fee of $25.69 - I swear that's true.
http://jacksonpark.cpdgolf.com/golf (http://jacksonpark.cpdgolf.com/golf)
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Private: Franklin Hills-5 miles away. Donald Ross. If I played it the next would be Oakland Hills. No access.
Public: Braeburn-about 15 miles away. Wilfrid Reid. I have played it but at least 25 years ago. I remember it has being a bit of a cow pasture at that time. Next would be Washtenaw Golf Club, recently turned public. Not sure of the designer, the website says "Donald Ross inspired". Haven't made the time to play it yet.
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I deserve to be shot - growing up on in the west of Ireland & I have not played Waterville... that said living in Lahinch, its a long-ass (3 1/2 + hour) way to get down to Kerry. Plan to rectify in 2017!
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I live in South Charlotte - I moved here approximately 18 months ago.
I haven't played at TPC Piper Glen or Raintree CC, both of which are within a few hundred yards of my home. I'm somewhat ambivalent about playing them. The handful of invites I have received haven't been at convenient times, and neither seems to be a must play, although I hear they are both fine courses.
For my first year + in the area, I checked out as many of the local publics as I could (only going back to a couple that I really liked - the public options are underwhelming), and traveled to the Pinehurst area, the mountains, and elsewhere to seek out courses in which I was more interested.
Recently, I joined a club ~20 minutes from home, because I loved the course and the club's culture, and expect I will play a majority of my local golf there.
Previously, I lived in Powell, OH (suburb of Columbus). The nearest private course I never played was York Golf Club, about 5 miles away. I never met a member or received an invite. The nearest public I never played was Raymond Memorial, about 15 miles away. Both of these omissions were outliers, as I played all but a handful of the courses within a 50 mile radius.
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Pretty cool exercise - I live in Victor NY (suburb of Rochester)
Private - Irondequoit CC by Donald Ross - 12 miles away
Why haven't I played it? No idea - know a couple members just never found the time to accept.
If I played it next it would be Midvale by RTJ JR - 14 miles away - no coverage
Public - Ontario Country Club by Geoffry Cornish
Why haven't I played it - To play it from my house I'd have to drive by one of my favorite courses in the area Greystone and I just cant do it.
If I played it next it would be Genesee Valley Muni - much better options around - no idea who designed it but I did learn this Am this legend has it that it hosted the very first round of golf late starter Calvin Peete ever played!
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Ohio Country Club and Central Country Club, both in West Central Ky are 58 miles away as the crow flies, but I've played everything within 90 minutes. Living in Evansville that really does not encompass many courses.
It looks like there is a Pine Valley Golf Club a little farther out, but I think it is closed now........
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Kyle, Great Thread!
I reside in The People's Republic of Ann Arbor, MI
Private- CC of Detroit (45 miles) is the one I didn't make it to this summer. As an Alison admirer I am really looking forward to playing CCD. Since the property is relatively flat, that makes me more interested in playing it. I've been fortunate to learn about the course through friends. I wish they would have been able to have done the restoration all at once and have all the tie ins work.
Public- Stoatin Brae or Roseland Park (windsor)(45-60 miles) - I checked off all my local gems last year. I haven't played Roseland Park in 17 years and since it has been renovated. I used to drive up from Toledo to play Roseland Park. It was a great treat to play a public Ross course. Stoatin Brae, because I love the Battle Creek area and it will make a nice accompaniment to Battle Creek CC followed by Arcadia Ales post rounds!
What is stopping me is friends and their schedules ;D ;D ;D
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What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played?
Two categories:
Public - American Golf Club of Vero Beach - 2.6 mi
Private - Riomar Country Club - 2.7 mi
Approximately where do you live? Vero Beach, FL
Why?
American GC - Because I'd always heard it's horrible and constantly on the edge of shutting down, so I mostly play at Sandridge, the county facility. That said, recent reviews of AGC that I've found online indicate that new ownership is turning things around, so I may check it out sometime soon.
Riomar - Have not been invited to play it.
Who designed it?
American GC - Arthur Hills, evidently
Riomar - First nine were Herbert Strong, not sure re: second nine; recent work initially proposed by Ron Forse but carried out by Tommy Fazio
What would the answer be if you played it your next round?
If I played AGC, the closest public I hadn't seen would be Island Pines (7 mi), another lower-end public I just haven't gone to play, designed by Arthur Young (never heard of him).
If I played Riomar, the closest private I hadn't seen would be Indian River Club (6 mi), a Ron Garl course. Will probably play here in 2017; I think my local FL Am qualifier is there.
What's stopping you?
Re: AGC and Island Pines, probably an inner golf-snobbishness that I need to continue to get rid of.
Re: the privates, just opportunity/invites.
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Finding courses near me that I've not played is requiring more gasoline. :-)
Public: Mercer Oaks West in West Windsor Twp, NJ (48 miles from 'Nova). A Brian Ault course. I'm confident I'll hit it this season.
Private: Wilmington CC, both courses (RTJ and Dick Wilson) in Wilmington, DE (33 miles). Some day(s)!
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I live in Traverse City, MI.
The closest course to me that I haven't played is Gary Player's Wolverine course at the Grand Traverse Resort, about 4 miles by car. We interviewed for that job [with Davis Love, because the owner at the time HAD TO HAVE a Tour pro name involved] but they passed over the local guy; I guess I still hold it against them! Plus, the course was another nail in High Pointe's coffin.
I'm not sure about the closest private club course I haven't played ... there are not too many up north. I guess it would be Leland CC, about 40 minutes away; I've walked that but never played it. Or Elk Rapids CC, which is semi-private ... a nine-hole Donald Ross layout about 15 minutes north of my house. My crew were actually talking to them about doing some work there last summer, but I don't think anything came of it.
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I live on a mountain in the woods 8 miles outside of Lehighton, PA, where I'm presently adding four foot thick lead walls to my basement in anticipation of the next four years. :-X
Nearest privates to me I haven't played are two nine hole community courses, Naomi Lakes Timber Trails (1974 - likely Logan Steele and Ray Hansen) (32.3 miles) and Thornhurst Estates CC (Art Hitson 1963) (38.5 miles).
Nearest public is a 1150 yard par three nine hole course at Newfoundland GC (Vance Megargel/John Rasmussen 1947) (51.6 miles)
Of 18 hole private courses, the nearest are Panther Valley CC (Allamuchy, NJ) (RTJ Sr.) (52 miles), while in PA I haven't played Squires GC in Horsham, PA (George Fazio) (63.3 miles) and Old York Road CC (William/David Gordon) nearby (65.3).
Nearest public 18 hole course I haven't played is too difficult to determine but is likely something in northern NJ, but in PA they would be Rock Creek GC in Nicholson, PA (72.5 miles) and Cricket Hill GC near Honesdale (78 miles).
Other than lack of invites, I have no real reasons for not playing any of them and would enjoy playing them all, even if some are likely horrific architecturally based on drive by's. :)
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Good one Kyle...
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Two categories: Public and Private. Public is probably Wenham CC...private is probably Thomson CC in North Reading....both 8-10 miles from my house.
Approximately where do you live? Marblehead, MA
Why? Wenham is par 66, and is surrounded by great courses, though mostly private....Thomson is a full course, yet by all accounts is not enjoyable due to OB on both sides every hole.
Who designed it? Wenham is actually well over 100 years old, and was formed by some Myopia caddies pre-1900...not sure of the designer. Thomson CC is by Geoffrey Cornish, circa 1970s.
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? There are a few local 9-holers I haven't played(Reedy Meadow in Lynnfield, New Meadows in Topsfield, and some of these are not full length...private may be Bellevue, a 9-holer by Stiles in Melrose, MA.
What's stopping you? Not much, other than my club being a great course and only 2mins away, and the North Shore of Boston having many other great privates and good publics.
Also, if you've only been in your current location for under two years, how do these answers change with your previous address? I lived in Boston previously...the local public ones to Boston that I haven't played are Furnace Brook in Quincy (9) or Leo J. Martin...private is definitely Belmont or Bellevue. If I used my workplace in Quincy, Blue Hill in Canton would be the nearest private I haven't played.
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I live in Bethesda, Maryland.
Private (tie): Chevy Chase Club (Ross) and Columbia Country Club (Herbert Barker). Both pretty exclusive and the couple of invites I received did not work for schedule.
Public: Rock Creek Golf. No idea who designed but supposed to be fun, short course that opened during the 1920s. I have played pretty much every public in DC area, but just never really thought to try it because it used to be very crowded and not in great condition (not sure how it is now).
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Public: Hidden Valley GC, Livingston
Private: Five Oaks G&CC, Lebanon
I live in Putnam Co, TN
Local golf here is and always has been about real estate. No thanks. :)
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The closest golf course to my home that I haven't played is Highland National Golf Course in St. Paul, MN. There is an 18 and a 9 hole course there. The golf courses date back to 1927, when it was called Highland Park (after the surrounding neighborhood) Golf Course, according to their website.
The course has a pretty neat old clubhouse:
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The clubhouse was designed by Clarence Wigington, whom at the time was one of the few African-American architects working in the United States. He designed a matching water tower nearby and is a local landmark and is on the National Register of Historic Places.
The golf course itself is most famous as the place where Charles Schultz grew up playing golf. (Local hero Joe Mauer also grew up playing there).
In 2005, the city hired local hack architects Garrett Gill and Paul Miller to renovate the golf course. They took a classic city golf course, renamed it Highland *National* and turned it into this:
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Although, what the course is most famous for these days is the "Snoopy" bunker that they built to honor Charles Schultz:
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I haven't played it for a variety of reasons. Probably #1 being that I live one block from my home course, and Highland National is about 3-4 miles away. The second is that every time I drive by it usually looks flooded and covered in Canadian geese. The third is that is was designed by Gil and Miller.
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Where do I live: Westside of Cincinnati, OH. If you've been to Cincinnati, you understand the East/West divide.
I’ll assume this is driving instance. For my public course, it wouldn’t matter. For my private course, there’s one closer by the crow flies, but that pesky Ohio River, even with a ferry, makes it technically longer than the one below.
Public: Hartwell Golf Course (9 holes) - 16 miles away
Who designed it? - No clue who designed it or when it opened. I know it used to be a private course for CG&E ( former Cincinnati Gas & Electric) and became public. Outside of that, I don't know much.
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? - Well, notched that one, I guess.
What's stopping you? - I’m a member of another club in town, limited time, no desire to play it. The dogleg on the third hole just looks downright dangerous for a slice.
Private: Hidden Valley Golf Club (Indiana) - 12.5 miles away
Who designed it? - Jack Kidwell and Michael Hurdzan
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? - Sure, I guess. Some holes appear pretty funky though; and not necessarily good funky.
What's stopping you? - Probably nothing. I don’t think I know any members, but I’m pretty sure they take reciprocal play. I guess because I mostly play out of my club (which is close by and I enjoy both course and culture), I have relatively limited time for outside rounds, and there are a lot other courses in the Cincy/Dayton area that are higher on my (realistic) priority list.
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I have played EVERY course within 45 minutes of Cinicinnati except TWO. Well 3 if you count Kenwood CC as 2 separate courses.
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played?
Two categories: Public and Private. Private: Both Courses at Kenwood CC and Public the par 3 course at Little Miami. Approximately where do you live? Cincinnati, Ohio
Why? Have not been able to get access to Kenwood CC, but I will this coming spring. Little Miami, I don't care for 1,000 yard, par three courses, but I will be taking the kids there in the spring as well.Who designed it? Kenwood CC - Bill Diddel, Little Miami par 3 - ??? ?What would the answer be if you played it your next round? What's stopping you? Right now, Winter weather.
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I also am a Chicago Northside. Bryn Mawr for me also. I could take the Pulaski bus and walk a few blocks to get there.
The nearest public is the Edgebrook course ran by the Forest Preserve District. I never played there because I heard the conditioning was aweful and it is frequently under water.
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I suspect this may generate some interesting responses and thoughts.
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Two categories: Public and Private.
Public - Lincoln Oaks Golf Course, Crete IL
Private - Innsbrook Country Club, Merrillville IN
Why?
2 very soon to be 3 children under the age of 5
Who designed it?
Lincoln Oaks - Tom Bendelow
Innsbrook - William Langford
What's stopping you? see above
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I am in Worcestershire.
The closest course I haven't played is 4.2 miles away (12 minutes away)....Welford on Avon GC. A 2004/09 Hawtree design which is public, £18 to pay and holds no interest for me.
I think the closest private course is Gay Hill (might be called Hollywood...not sure), 20.8 miles away (35 minutes). I know very little about the course and have heard nothing to entice me.
Ciao
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I live in Salt Lake City City Limits:
Closest Public: Rose Park.
Reason: Its a Doak 2 at best and the course is in a bit of a hood'. Its about 10 miles away
Designer: No clue
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? I'm not sure i understand this question.
Nothing stopping me from playing it, other than there are far better courses here in the valley that cost the same and are a safer place to play
Closest Private: Salt Lake Country Club
Reason: No access, but I would love to play it. I drive by it every day and its less than 2 miles from where I live. It looks like it has some really good holes.
Designer: Mixed, history is vague on the designer given its age and they had to redesign one of the 9s based on putting I-80.
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Here you go, Kalen;
I can't believe I played a SLC muni that you haven't! ;D
Rose Park Golf Course
Salt Lake City, UT 18 6696 72 69.6 109
Mick Riley 1950, William F. Bell 1960, Arthur Jack Snyder 1963
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Here you go, Kalen;
I can't believe I played a SLC muni that you haven't! ;D
Rose Park Golf Course
Salt Lake City, UT 18 6696 72 69.6 109
Mick Riley 1950, William F. Bell 1960, Arthur Jack Snyder 1963
Thanks Mike,
I was hoping you would chime in. Is my assessment for not playing accurate? :)
P.S. There are others in the valley I haven't played either because they look like Doak 1s from the street...
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I live in San Francisco. While Pebble Beach is not exactly close, I have never played. it, mostly because I am just a cheap s.o.b.
Then again, I have traveled to Scotland 29 times and have never played St. Andrews. It's just too far from Dornoch. ;)
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A quick google search reveals the following:
Closest 'Private': Ravelston GC
Designed: James Braid
Reason: I usually average 1 or 2 rounds a week, and can't justify paying to see a parkland course in the city, when I would rather take a train 10-30minutes to play links golf. In the winter, it is likely to be more saturated, which doesn't appeal. However, I wouldn't be opposed to going after work one evening with a half-set to see a Braid design.
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I live in San Francisco. While Pebble Beach is not exactly close, I have never played. it, mostly because I am just a cheap s.o.b.
Then again, I have traveled to Scotland 29 times and have never played St. Andrews. It's just too far from Dornoch. ;)
Or North Berwick... :)
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What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Two categories: Public and Private.
Public-Charles T. Myers-13.4 miles away
Private-Raintree Country Club(South)-30.5 miles away
Approximately where do you live?
Charlotte, NC
Why?
Charles T. Myers is a muni and it is very hard to play as a single. I've called a few times and they didn't have anything for a single and I wasn't willing to drive there and wait and hope.
Raintree(South)- I was going to play it the day I played the North course but it was very crowded and slow and I didn't have time.
Who designed it?
Myers was designed by Bill Love, Raintree South by Russell Breedon
What would the answer be if you played it your next round?
Public-Emerald Lake, Private-Carmel Country Club (North)
What's stopping you?
Of the 3 days I am off every week, I spend 2 playing the club where I belong. If I don't have anything to do on the 3rd day I will go play one or two courses in the area and I just haven't gotten to these yet. I probably will this year.
Also, if you've only been in your current location for under two years, how do these answers change with your previous address?
Moving to Charlotte 2 years ago was one of the best things to happen to me from a golf course standpoint because my previous address was Pinehurst, NC. I have played every golf course within 50 miles of Pinehurst. Charlotte opened up so many options.
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I suspect this may generate some interesting responses and thoughts.
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Two categories: Public and Private.
Approximately where do you live?
Why?
Who designed it?
What would the answer be if you played it your next round?
What's stopping you?
Also, if you've only been in your current location for under two years, how do these answers change with your previous address?
My answers:
Lake Morton Historic District, Lakeland, FL
Course: Shalamar Creek 2.8 miles away
Ron Garl
It's not particularly on my radar and I consistently forget about it.
Wow! Blast from the past. You're not missing anything there. By and large not much interesting throughout Lakeland. What was the name of the place at the very south end of town still on 98? Used to have chickens running around the "clubhouse".
For me it would be Cabo Real. RTJ2 rework of what was a Joe Finger routing and 9 holes of construction when the switch was made for marketing reasons. Been around it a couple of times and what is now the back nine is not awful but many better options here in Cabo so it remains the only course in our área I have not played. Well, that and the back nine of Tiger's course at Diamante (actually quit after 9)... stick to the Dunes Course if you can.
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Where I live: San Francisco, CA
Closest public I haven't played: Fleming Nine at Harding Park (9 hole); just haven't been with a group who wanted to play it in addition to the big course, and it's too long of a trek to go there for just 9. Also, Sharp Park (18 hole), designed by some guy named Alister. I know there's history but — and some might say I'm mistaken — my understanding of what exists there currently in terms of layout, conditions, etc. does not make me interested.
Closest private I haven't played: Burlingame (William Watson) or Claremont (another one by that Alister guy). I'd love to play either, just never been asked.
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I live in Traverse City, MI.
The closest course to me that I haven't played is Gary Player's Wolverine course at the Grand Traverse Resort, about 4 miles by car.We interviewed for that job [with Davis Love, because the owner at the time HAD TO HAVE a Tour pro name involved] but they passed over the local guy; I guess I still hold it against them! Plus, the course was another nail in High Pointe's coffin.
I'm not sure about the closest private club course I haven't played ... there are not too many up north. I guess it would be Leland CC, about 40 minutes away; I've walked that but never played it. Or Elk Rapids CC, which is semi-private ... a nine-hole Donald Ross layout about 15 minutes north of my house. My crew were actually talking to them about doing some work there last summer, but I don't think anything came of it.
Tom,
I stopped and walked a quick 9 at Elk Rapids CC after walking 18 at Belvedere GC with doublebarkysparky. It would be GREAT if you could breath some life into that little Donald Ross course!
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This is what I have left to play in Oregon. The most egregious miss is Bayou. I guess because it is only a nine-holer.
I mean to, but never get there. It is private, and its most prominent member won USGA championships and captained the Curtis Cup. I'll probably finish the list this year. There closest WA course, Skamania Lodge is an hour away.
PORTLAND-GREATER METRO
Bayou 9 McMinnville Bayou (9Par3) McMinnvilleEagle Landing 27E Happy Vly
Greenlea 9E BoringMcMenamins-East 10-12Woodburn Senior Estates
Mid Willamette Valley
Aubrey Center9E SalemDallas 9E DallasMeadowlawn 9E Salem
Oak Knoll 18 Independence Pineway 9 Lebanon Salemtowne 9E Salem
EUGENE- COTTAGE GROVE-ROSEBURG
Eagles on the Green 9E EugFiddlers Green (back9)Hidden Valley 9 Cottage GroveLaurelwood 9 EugeneOakway Eugene River Ridge 27E Eugene
Stewart Creek, Roseburg
I-84 Hood River 18 Hood River Total to go: 20
Edit - What a stupid I am. Bayou is public built in 1964. It's architect is William Sander, who coincidentally also designed Orchards Hills, the home course of GCAer Garland B. It is 36.1 miles, and an hour drive, from my home in the SW suburbs of Portland, Oregon.
As for private courses, it would probably be in Centralia,Olympia or Tacoma, WA - 2 hrs away
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Public
marine Memorial in Camp Pendleton. About 10-15 miles as crow flies. May not be actual closest but closest I would like to see
Private
Probably Yorba Linda, don't know tbh
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Kyle,
Being fairly OCD about this stuff, I'd also mention the following;
A few previously nine hole courses have gone to 18 since I played them but I haven't returned. They include;
Eagle Rock (16.3 Miles) - Original nine by Arnold Palmer Group, Second unplayed nine by someone from "Double Diamond Resorts"
Willow Brook GC - (16.7 Miles) - Original Nine by Calvin Miller, Second unplayed nine by Jim Blaukovitch
Sawmill GC - (27.4 Miles) - Original Nine by Dick Field, Second unplayed nine by Jim Blaukovitch
A few previously 18 hole courses became 27, but I hadn't returned.
Blue Ridge Trail GC (23.4 mi) - Original 18 by Brian Ault, New unplayed Nine by Dan Schlegel
Wedgewood GC (37 Mi) - Original 18 by William/David Gordon, unplayed nine by Jim Blaukovitch
Finally, Kyle's favorite Mountain Valley went from 18 to 36.
Mountain Valley GC (22.6 Mi.) - Original 18 by Herman Yaducufski based on routing by David Gordon who left the project before construction completed. Third nine by Dan Schlegel, Fourth nine routed by Dan Schlegel who I believe left the project and it was completed in house.
Also, I've never played the Donald Ross "Hill 9" at Silver Creek CC about 40 or so miles from home, which these days is played as a separate nine even though it was part of the original 18 hole course.
Perhaps more sadly, I still haven't played the "Executive nine" at White Birch GC (designer Ben Godshall) about 30 miles from home. ;)
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The nearest one (5 miles from my house) I have not played and the only one I have not played in Rutland is Kendrew Barracks (formerly RAF Cottesmore) ( hole golf course which has interesting obstacles
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The nearest 18 hole course that I have not played is Priors Hall in Corby designed by Fred Hawtree in 1967 - http://www.priorshallgolfclub.com/
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I live in Denver, CO.
Nearest Public: Aurora Hills GC, Aurora CO. Designed by Henry Hughes 1969. FYI per the Colorado Golf Association: Henry Hughes was the superintendent at Cherry Hills from 1934-1947. Hughes designed and supervised the construction of over 40 golf courses from 1949 to 1970. Included in his resume are Columbine Country Club, Meadow Hills Golf Course, Fort Collins Country Club, Old Baldy Golf Club in Wyoming, and others in Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Nebraska and Texas. Why not played? Looks boring, there are tons of other basic public options in town like City Park, Wellshire and Park Hill. I suspect would have played it by now, however, if CommonGround hadn't opened nearby.
Nearest Private: Blackstone Country Club, Aurora CO. Designed by Jay Morrish 2007. Why not played? Never heard much about it, don’t know anyone who plays there etc.
Public course I’d want to play in the area for the first time is Colorado National GC (Jay Morrish 2003). Home course of the University of Colorado golf team for what that is worth. Mixed reviews but would like to see for myself sometime.
Private course I’d want to play in the area for the first time is Boulder CC (Press Maxwell, 1963). I know several members but have never gotten there.
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I live on a mountain in the woods 8 miles outside of Lehighton, PA, where I'm presently adding four foot thick lead walls to my basement in anticipation of the next four years. :-X
Another course that I have not played is "Ferry Point" in the Bronx. It is not a political statement to date, just too expensive for my taste. However, I would play it with Mike Cirba if you have some sick desire to make yourself crazy :) Maybe we can get Lou Duran to come up for the day!!
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What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Two categories: Public and Private.
Public, Cypress Point Country Club, in Virginia Beach.
[/size]Approximately where do you live? I live in Virginia Beach, VA[/color]
[/size]Why? Hmm, the course is nothing like the famous one as it goes through houses and has no unique holes.
Who designed it? Ault and Clark designed it. Every region has an architect who developed lots of poor courses. In our area it is Ault and Clark. The question we often asks, What is the best Ault and Clark course? We have a hard time coming up with the best one.
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? No thanks,
What's stopping you? I guess I would play it once just to say I played it once.
I am sure it is in good shape but I do not need to play a boring course through houses with other better course in the area. [/size]
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Rock Hill CC 31.5 miles-44 minutes according to Google maps
Did a wedge fitting there so I was on a couple holes
nearby Pine Hills would be another-45 minutes
Great Rock 53 minutes comes in third
Seems I have an aversion to Rocks and Hills
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I've played CT Myers in Charlotte, Cory. When you get there, you'll have a little bit of fun. I recall it is build on a landfill, so stay away from those pipes.
In western New York, the only private club I haven't played is Wanakah. I've coached on it and driven the entire course. I hope to play it soon, as it has been very proactive with its Chris Wilczynski reno/resto.
We have a number of mom 'n pop courses south of Buffalo, but not yet in Pennsylvania. I'd like to get to Eden Valley, Pinehurst, and the others, sooner rather than later.
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I live in Denver, CO.
Nearest Public: Aurora Hills GC, Aurora CO. Designed by Henry Hughes 1969. FYI per the Colorado Golf Association: Henry Hughes was the superintendent at Cherry Hills from 1934-1947. Hughes designed and supervised the construction of over 40 golf courses from 1949 to 1970. Included in his resume are Columbine Country Club, Meadow Hills Golf Course, Fort Collins Country Club, Old Baldy Golf Club in Wyoming, and others in Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Nebraska and Texas. Why not played? Looks boring, there are tons of other basic public options in town like City Park, Wellshire and Park Hill. I suspect would have played it by now, however, if CommonGround hadn't opened nearby.
Nearest Private: Blackstone Country Club, Aurora CO. Designed by Jay Morrish 2007. Why not played? Never heard much about it, don’t know anyone who plays there etc.
Public course I’d want to play in the area for the first time is Colorado National GC (Jay Morrish 2003). Home course of the University of Colorado golf team for what that is worth. Mixed reviews but would like to see for myself sometime.
Private course I’d want to play in the area for the first time is Boulder CC (Press Maxwell, 1963). I know several members but have never gotten there.
Aurora Hills is pretty awful, but it is where I learned the game and the site of my first birdie and first eagle. The tenth there is an all world WTF hole so if you're into that sort of thing, maybe it's worth checking out.
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I live in Phoenix, AZ
Public:
Desert Canyon, Fountain Hills. Design by John Allen. It's about 21 miles away. Looks like a reasonable place to play but frankly if I'm driving out to Fountain Hills, I'm playing WeKoPa.
Next closest is Pueblo El Mirage, a "Fuzzy Zoeller" design. Looks utterly awful.
Private:
Paradise Valley CC is just down the road a bit, a Lawrence Hughes design with recent work by C&C. I have no connections for private clubs in general and don't know any members there.
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I live in Wynnewood, which is a mile from Llanerch CC. I've played most of the publics, but it appears Olde Masters is the closest I haven't played, mainly because I've heard it's not very good.
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As a San Diego resident there are two Billy Bell courses I'd like to play. On the private side I would love to play La Jolla CC; built by William Park Bell. I did walk it during the SCGA Am and followed some kid named Geiberger. Sure enough his dad was in the gallery and you couldn't have met a nicer man. He said the course was pretty much the same as when he played it in college.
On the public side I've pretty much played everything available in SD County. I have always wanted to play San Clemente GC, exactly an hour away from home. I did try to play there on a Good Friday back in the 90's when golf was super popular and got shut out. This would more than likely be the work of the son William Francis Bell.
If I understood the question correctly, where next? LACC would be nice, we'll definetly be going to the Walker Cup there this year if I'm in town. Having lived in LA for 8 years I can't think of a muni nearby that would be worth a road trip?
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I live on the south side of Manchester.
I've played pretty well everything in my vicinity; the closest that I haven't is probably Denton Golf Club, five miles from home. A flat, featureless, poorly drained course by all accounts and so holding little appeal, I would have to drive past Reddish Vale to get there!
The more notable local omissions to my golfing CV are on the Lancashire coast, 60-90 minutes away. I've played a lot of the courses there, but not Royals Liverpool, Birkdale,or Lytham. The reason? Cost, pure and simple. I'll get round to them one day.
There is no real distinction between public and private golf in this part of the world. Everywhere is open to the public - for a price!
Despite its relative proximity, I've also never played golf in Scotland...
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I think the closest private course is Gay Hill (might be called Hollywood...not sure), 20.8 miles away (35 minutes). I know very little about the course and have heard nothing to entice me.
Ciao
It doesn't look very private to me, Sean! ;D
http://www.teeofftimes.co.uk/hollywood-gay-hill-golf-course
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I live in the Logan Square/Avondale neighborhood of Chicago. Closest private I haven't played is Bryn Mawr, as I missed the GCA outing there and haven't otherwise made it over there. Closest public is probably the 9-Hole Waveland/Marovitz course, largely because I'm not generally an early riser, and 3.5 hours to play nine holes does not appeal to me.
More interesting for me would be looking at where I grew up in the West San Gabriel Valley in Southern California. I grew up in an unincorporated sliver of LA County between Arcadia, San Gabriel, and Temple City. Closest private would be San Gabriel Country Club, despite having driven by it approximately 1.34 million times. My mom grew up just across the street from the first green. My uncles used to sneak out and play 2-17, as they were all across the street from the piece of land that held the clubhouse, 1st, and 18th holes. Closest public was probably the 9 hole Scholl Canyon. No idea why I never made it over there. I worked at 2 different nine-holers a few miles away, so maybe I thought I didn't need to see a third.
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Define "near".
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I live in central Cambridge (UK) and have never in over thirty years of local residence played golf at Girton, although I did once dine there. This is (apparently) a rather flat up-and-down course out towards the M11, expanded from its original nine holes to eighteen in 1979. The club itself dates (rather unusually, in the British context) from 1936. I have also only played at a couple of the numerous new developments that sprang up within twenty miles of Cambridge during the 1980s and 1990s: of those Bourn Golf Club is actually rather pleasant, with a genuine sense of being 'out in the country', and is certainly the one I would recommend to anybody in the Cambridge area seeking a game that wasn't at the Gogs. And before GCAers all shout, it's worth saying (again) that the Sacred Nine is about forty minutes' away, off one of the busier roads in the UK, and emphatically not a 'local Cambridge club'.
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What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Two categories: Public and Private.
Public: Fair Way Golf Course - Lebanon, Indiana - 28.7 miles
Private: The Club at Chatham Hills - Westfield, Indiana - 10.4 miles
Approximately where do you live?
Carmel, Indiana - suburb north of Indianapolis
Why?
Fair Way - was not aware it existed until this exercise.
Chatham Hills - New in 2016
Who designed it?
Fair Way - "Local architect Henry Corbly" per club site. More googling led to this: http://www.turfnet.com/news.html/_/taking-the-plunge-r483 (http://www.turfnet.com/news.html/_/taking-the-plunge-r483)
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Chatham Hills - Pete Dye/Tim Liddy
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? Meridian Hills CC
What's stopping you?
Fair Way - snow, temperature. Will go.
Chatham Hills - opportunity. Opened late last season, and I simply have not yet made the time. Will go.
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I live in Epsom, Surrey. Played most within the county.
Most of the courses are accessible but I will split into 2:
Public: Hersham 9.4 miles away
Very very Private: Beaverbrook 4.8 miles away
Why: Never knew there was course at Hersham / Beaverbrook opened 2016
Hersham no idea of architect
Beaverbrook: Tom Watson with Dave Mclay Kidd
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Another course that I have not played is "Ferry Point" in the Bronx. It is not a political statement to date, just too expensive for my taste. However, I would play it with Mike Cirba if you have some sick desire to make yourself crazy :) Maybe we can get Lou Duran to come up for the day!!
Michael,
Any good muni's near Moscow we can play instead? I'm hoping the spring weather is nice there but I hear they get frequent showers. :'(
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The showers are very localized...hit and miss...
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I live in Atlanta:
Closest Private: Peachtree Golf Club (1.8 miles)
Robert Trent Jones
Why? Its harder to get a game at Peachtree than it is at Augusta National
Closest Public: Steel Canyon Golf Club (9.6 miles)
Michael Riley
It's never really been on my radar as a place to play
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Approximately where do you live? Greater Cincinnati (north).
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played?
Public: Fairfield Greens, South
Who designed it? Jack Kidwell
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? The Mill Course, Sharonville. Dr. Michael Hurdzan
What's stopping you? Available time and a little lack of interest.
Private: Camargo
Who designed it? Seth Raynor
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? Dayton Country Club, Donald Ross.
What's stopping you? Very difficult to get access (I'm not whoring for access here, just explaining why I haven't played it).
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What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played?
Commuter betw Iowa and Los Angeles
Two categories:
Public: Iowa City Elks Club Golf and LA Chester Washington since American Golf
Private: Iowa Dubuque CC and LA Post Renovation Wilshire CC
Approximately where do you live? : Commute Between Iowa and Los Angeles
Why? Interested in seeing another Iowa Bendelow and Playing renovated Chester Muny and Wilshire CC
Who designed it?
Dubuque=Tom Bendelow | Chester=Billy Bell Sr.
Wilshire=Norman Macbeth/Kyle Phillips
Elks = Unknown
What's stopping you? Travel, Winter Snow, rain and pace of play at Chester though Chester used to have the best cutthroat Tuesday Games in Muny LA
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Both of mine are courses that look mediocre at best. The private course would require a couple of phone calls to play but I have never seen that effort as worthwhile.
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I live in Chicago. At this point in my golfing life, I'm driving out of the city to play something new.
Public:
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? This was a fun exercise, I didn't know I have played every public course within 10 miles of me! My current nearest unplayed is Wilmette Golf Course.
Who designed it? Roseman (1922), Greg Martin (2014)
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? Is this a funny way of asking what's the second closest course you haven't played? Glenview Park GC (Roseman - 1927, R. Jacobson 2015), a mere stone's throw away from The Glen Club (Fazio 2001), which I also haven't played yet.
What's stopping you? Wilmette and Glenview Park are definitely on my list for this season, especially since both have recently been reworked. Price and some sketchy reviews have kept me from The Glen Club, but I really should bite the bullet and give it a go.
Private:
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Bryn Mawr CC (5 miles away)
Who designed it? Langford/Moreau 1921
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? Ridgemoor CC (7.2 miles away) Also Langford/Moreau 1913. Tillinghast may have been involved with both of these courses at various points but I can't confirm.
What's stopping you? I don't know any members and have never asked (if that's a thing), need to get out more!
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I live in Highlands Ranch, CO, and have never played the Highlands Ranch Golf Club, although it is less than two miles from my house. It was designed by Hale Irwin, and is considered "semi-private," so maybe it qualifies on both counts. I feel like I'll get around to playing it one of these days. I have hit balls on the range.
If I have to list a truly private course, there are a number in the area, but I think the closest that I haven't played is Sanctuary. I think it's closer to me than Castle Pines or Cherry Hills, etc.
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I live on the Sound Shore of New York.
Private: Rye Golf Club. This is attributed to Dev Emmet and has an IMO profile on this site. It's an unusual property in the sense that it's a private club that's owned by the municipality. If that sounds like a recipe for trouble, you'd be right--the former GM recently went to prison for embezzling something like $750K from the club.
Why I haven't played it: Despite being a Rye Town taxpayer, I don't live in the right zip code to qualify for the more reasonably-priced membership. The jaw-dropping annual quote I was given a few years ago would cover several national memberships. In any event, there's a charming public nature reserve directly adjacent to the club, so on a nice day I can walk out to the islands in the harbor and watch the play on the par-3 10th.
Public: Pelham Bay Golf Club. A Van Kleek design on the Bronx/Westchester border that is the sister course of the very good Split Rock, which Dr. Geoff Childs introduced to me after much arm-twisting. No doubt NY taxpayer funds that went to Ferry Point would have been put to great use here.
Why I haven't played it: Pure sloth. Pelham Bay one day!
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I live in Dublin, OH (suburb on the northwest side of Columbus).
Private: Scioto Reserve Country Club (Barry Serafin, 2001) - approximately 5 miles from my house. Not to be confused with the more well-known Scioto Country Club, I've had opportunities to play, but never really had a burning desire to get out to Scioto Reserve. It is a housing development course and, from what I have heard, they do not allow players to walk due to the distances between holes. My uncle had a membership out there for a few years, but we always elected to played its sister course Kinsale Golf Club (also a housing development course) instead because it seemed less crowded. I'm sure I will make it out there at some point.
Public: Wilson Road Golf Course (Jack Kidwell, 1971) - approximately 12 miles from my house. It is a 9-hole executive course that is part of the City of Columbus Municipal Golf courses and is adjacent to the 18-hole public facility at Mentel Memorial Golf Course (which I have played many years ago). I really had no idea this 9-hole course existed until performing this exercise since it has probably been 15 - 20 years since I played at Mentel Memorial. Not sure if I will make much effort to play it anytime soon. Maybe when my sons begin to show an interest in golf, I will make it out there.
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I am in Gymea on Sydney's southern beaches.
The nearest public course I haven't played is 1.2km (three-quarters of a mile) from my couch -- Kareela GC. It's pretty poor and costs as much as a much better council-owned course another 5-7 mins away so there is no point.
If I played it, the next nearest would be Bexley GC just over the river. Maybe 10km as the crow flies.
Nearest private is a tough one. Would likely be Manly GC about 40km away on the northern beaches. I played it once as a teen but it has had a full reno since then.
At this point of my life, my golf is limited to about 30 rounds a year and every round I play somewhere new is one less round I get with mates at my home course so I find the motivation to see new places just to say I've seen them is less than it once was.
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I live in Washington DC (actually in the district). I would divide the courses here into three categories--Private, Public, and Military. My answers are:
Private: It would take about the same amount of time to drive from our house to Argyle CC (Silver Spring, MD) and the "Championship" course at Trump National (Potomac Falls, VA). I have pretty easy access to Argyle--while the greens at our club are being redone, we are able to play at Argyle and some other area courses--but don't have much interest, at least over playing other places. I'd like to play the Trump course (I've played only the "river" course) but had to cancel the one time I had an invite.
Public: Falls Road (Potomac, MD). This is close to my home club and other much better places I can play (private and public), so I've just never had an interest in playing here.
Military: There's a course at the Armed Forces Retirement Home (aka the Old Soldiers' Home) near Catholic University in DC. I'd like to play here, just out of curiosity--I have no idea if it's supposed to be any good.
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The nearest one (5 miles from my house) I have not played and the only one I have not played in Rutland is Kendrew Barracks (formerly RAF Cottesmore) ( hole golf course which has interesting obstacles
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/bsdesign/Cottesmore.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/bsdesign/media/Cottesmore.jpg.html)
The nearest 18 hole course that I have not played is Priors Hall in Corby designed by Fred Hawtree in 1967 - http://www.priorshallgolfclub.com/ (http://www.priorshallgolfclub.com/)
... is playing through controlled by the tower?
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Live in Morgan Hill, CA
Closest private: The Institute, 6.2 miles across town.
2002/Damian Pascuzzo.
Haven't had a chance to play or even look at it; probably need to marry into the Fry family for access. Or be a caddy there (or at neighboring Cordevalle), as the caddies claim they play more rounds there than than anybody.
Closest private: Santa Teresa Muni, San Jose CA 11.3 miles
1963/George Santana
Been to the driving range many times, taken my kids on the Par 3 course when they were little. No reason not to have played it other than there being other options that weren't as crazy busy as it seems to be all the time.
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I live in Chevy Chase, MD, right across the D.C. line.
Private: Burning Tree (5.4 miles)
Still searching for the right hook up after 16 years in DC.
Public: Patuxent Greens (16 miles)
A local soft, but nice high end course. Zero interest. I think I have played every other Washington course inside of 30 miles from me.
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Tidewater Virginia
-Bayville, private Fazio... just do it once
-Princess Anne, private, renovation by Tim Liddy
-Cavalier, private, 1928 Charles Banks, par 69
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I live in Edinburgh.
Nearest private (in the U.K. sense) is Duddingston GC, a Willie Park design from 1895. It's supposed to be one of the better parkland courses in the city with some interesting holes. I don't know why I've yet to visit it as it's not expensive to play and is all of about four miles from my house.
Nearest private (members and guests only) is The Renaissance Club in East Lothian. Everyone I know that has visited says what an excellent course it is. I believe you can play it as a visitor once if you pony up £250. I will get there eventually,..
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I've lived in downtown Charlotte for 48 years. The closest private I've never played is the Quail Hollow Club, about 9 miles south of my house. I've been to functions there and spectated ("patroned") tournaments there (which I have enjoyed doing), but never played it. I know members and could ask to be invited (would never do that) to play, but the terrible truth is that I think it's too "big" of a course for me and I have no burning desire to play it. On the other hand, if I were to be invited and the circumstances fit, I'd gladly give it a try. Architects over the years: George Cobb, Arnold Palmer, Tom Fazio. (But I don't know who's done the work in very recent years (including major changes in 2016 in prep for the 2017 PGA).)
Daily fee. Without doing lots of research, I'd say the Fort Mill (S.C.) Golf Club, about 20 miles away. Front nine is D. Ross. Don't know about the back. This is a course I should play. Recommended by many. Only by accident I have not.
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I live in Edinburgh.
Nearest private (in the U.K. sense) is Duddingston GC, a Willie Park design from 1895. It's supposed to be one of the better parkland courses in the city with some interesting holes. I don't know why I've yet to visit it as it's not expensive to play and is all of about four miles from my house.
Nearest private (members and guests only) is The Renaissance Club in East Lothian. Everyone I know that has visited says what an excellent course it is. I believe you can play it as a visitor once if you pony up £250. I will get there eventually,..
I'd also mention that Michael Graham is a terrific chap and real gentleman to enjoy a round with for anyone travelling in the Edinburgh area and I saw him almost ace the 13th at Muirfield in 50mph winds back in the fall of 2015.
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I live in Washington DC (actually in the district). I would divide the courses here into three categories--Private, Public, and Military. My answers are:
Public: Falls Road (Potomac, MD). This is close to my home club and other much better places I can play (private and public), so I've just never had an interest in playing here.
Carl, you haven't lived until you've sliced one high and wide onto Falls Road :) Generally, it is a miss, but it will have a soft spot in my heart as I played a few High School matches there.
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Clontarf Golf Club. Designed by Harry Colt and 300 yards away from the house I've lived in for 14 years.
Anyone beat that?
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Ally, why not????
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Midvale Country Club--about 15 miles from my home. Reported to be RT Jones' first 18 hole course. I was on the course rating team that rated it a few years ago and found it to be more interesting than I expected. I just have not gone there even though it is a reciprocal for my home course. I'll try to make it in the upcoming season.
Greystone GC is a public course perhaps 25 miles away. Just never had the desire to play it.
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I don't know if this is the nearest, but it is close by.
Atlanta National
It's a PB Dye course and supposed to be one of the hardest courses in Atlanta. What's stopping me from playing it? I have a friend who's a member and I want to play with him, but he belongs to other courses as well...and when he invites me to play, we play his other courses.
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What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Two categories: Public and Private.
Public-Brookview Golf Course (6ish miles)
Private-The Town and Country Club / Midland Hills Country Club / Minikahda Club / Golden Valley G&CC (all about 5 miles)
Approximately where do you live?North Loop in Minneapolis MN
Why?
Public - Brookview is almost always packed and from what I hear a slow round and not much architectual merit.
Private - No access
Who designed it?
Brookview Golf Course - Unknown
The Town and Country Club - Unknown
Midland Hills Country Club - Seth Raynor
Minikahda Club - Willie Watson, Robert Foulis, Tom Bendelow, Donald Ross, Ron Prichard
Golden Valley G&CC - Tillingahst
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? Public - Highland National Golf Course
Private - One of the other 3
What's stopping you? See why above.
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Currently in Dayton Ohio
Public: Community Golf Club (.6 miles). For the first time in my life I'm playing more private golf than public.
Private: Moraine (2.2 miles). Borders my home club. During their reno they were able to play our course but I don't believe the reverse reciprocal benefit applies.
Also have a house in Pinehurst
Public: #5. The house is on the course.
Private: CCNC (1.2 miles).
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Where do I live:[/size] San Francisco, CA[/color][/size]Public: Lincoln Park - 1.5 miles awayWho designed it? - Not sureWhat's stopping you? - Limited time. My public course play is typically done at Presidio (which I can walk to) or Harding Park (been awhile since I've played it)Private: Claremont CC - 14.7 miles awayWho designed it? - MackenzieWhat's stopping you? - Would love to play it. I don’t think I know any members.[/color]
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Live in Colorado Springs.
Closest public I have not played that I probably should: Patty Jewett, the city owned course. Dates to 1903. Everyone says it is a good course. My son played it in high school and HATED it. I will, as Dan Jenkins would say, "Pasadena"
The nearest private I have not played is Cherry Hills, the classic William Flynn. I have a couple of very good connections so I should get it done in 2017. Will be my first Flynn. I had a tee time at Lancaster the summer of 2013 but my Dad was seriously ill and needed to attend to him when I was in town instead of playing. Members at Cherry Hills can only have 18 guests during the year, and no in-state guests at all on the weekend.
Had two different days set up to play CH two years ago in October. It was gorgeous all month except the two days we tried to play. And those days it was 35 degrees. Ugh, life in Colorado.
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Neat question !
I would have to leave southern NJ by ferry to Delaware . Nothing from here to Philly or north past Toms River that I haven't seen . So I might have Cirba by a few miles 8) though his travels are more extensive
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Ally, why not? ???
No real idea, Greg.
Time I suppose. Also, for a Harry Colt course, it's not very good. But still, 14 years and only a well hit driver away from the front gate.
Thinking of popping up and trying to join my 12 year old. I'm sure I'll finally play it then.
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I'm in Royal Oak, MI, although I'm fairly new to the area.
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played?
Public: Rackham Golf Course (Ross)
Private: Detroit Golf Club (Ross)
Why?
Rackham - I've heard the conditioning and pace of play is poor, and the "Ross" elements have been minimized/removed. Plus, I was busy playing my home course and checking out other reputable courses my first summer here. I'll get out to see it soon enough.
Detroit GC - Got an invite, but haven't made it out there yet.
What would the answer be if you played it your next round?
Public: Royal Oak Golf Course (9-holer, architect unknown) - No interest in seeing this one.
Private: Birmingham CC (Bendelow) - Will get out there soon. Photos of Hepner's recent renovation look fantastic.
Also, if you've only been in your current location for under two years, how do these answers change with your previous address?
I lived on the north side of Chicago previously.
Public: Edgebrook Golf Course (architect unknown) - See John McCarthy's reply in this thread for why not.
Private: Ridgemoor Country Club (Langford & Moreau) - Never had access.
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Thornton, CO.
Private: The Ranch CC. My aunt and uncle were once members there, but moved further west and don't play much golf anymore. I've seen a couple holes from the road and I'm not sure I'm missing out on anything special. Has that late 60s/early 70s kind of Trent Jones Lite look to it, and I don't mean in a good way. Without looking it up, I'd guess the architect is one of the Phelps', who seem to be rather prolific at saturating Denver with mediocrity.
Public: Looks like Heritage at Todd Creek,which is Art Hills. There is some irony in it because I've played the other "Heritage at" courses in town which are all further away. Out of those the Hurdzan/Fry out by Jeffco Airport is the best one. For whatever reason I've never been to this particular one, but it's also in the opposite direction from where my usual playing partners live, which may explain why I usually end up in Westminster or Arvada. But I've played enough Arthur Hills courses in Denver already.
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I live in Edinburgh.
Nearest private (in the U.K. sense) is Duddingston GC, a Willie Park design from 1895. It's supposed to be one of the better parkland courses in the city with some interesting holes. I don't know why I've yet to visit it as it's not expensive to play and is all of about four miles from my house.
Nearest private (members and guests only) is The Renaissance Club in East Lothian. Everyone I know that has visited says what an excellent course it is. I believe you can play it as a visitor once if you pony up £250. I will get there eventually,..
I've played Duddingston five-six times. If I move back to Edinburgh I'd consider joining there. Home club of Ronnie Shade, back in the day.
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Mine must be Skibo (since the renovations) which I am unlikely to play unless I get some sort of special deal due to the price.
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Private- Indian Hill Club, Kenilworth, IL. Probably a short Par 4 from my house. Tough ticket and I've had little interest, even it is technically a Ross design.
Public- Weber Park Par 3 course, Skokie, IL. also no interest, what with Canal Shores and the Winnetka Par 3 better and closer to home.
Interesting thread topic nevertheless.
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I live in Edinburgh.
Nearest private (in the U.K. sense) is Duddingston GC, a Willie Park design from 1895. It's supposed to be one of the better parkland courses in the city with some interesting holes. I don't know why I've yet to visit it as it's not expensive to play and is all of about four miles from my house.
Nearest private (members and guests only) is The Renaissance Club in East Lothian. Everyone I know that has visited says what an excellent course it is. I believe you can play it as a visitor once if you pony up £250. I will get there eventually,..
I've played Duddingston five-six times. If I move back to Edinburgh I'd consider joining there. Home club of Ronnie Shade, back in the day.
I definitely need to go and see Duddingston. I'll add it to my ever expanding list of courses to try and see in 2017. It's all of about 20 minutes door to door from the house so can't use distance as an excuse.
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Public: The Resort at Pelican Hill (South)
Where do I live? South Orange County, CA
Why haven't I? $310+
Who designed it? Fazio
Next closest? The Resort at Pelican Hill (North) - Same reason
Private: Shady Canyon Golf Club
Why not? No access/never been invited
Who designed it? Fazio
Next closest? Coto de Caza (South) / RTJ Jr. / I played the North several times before South was built. Never been invited out to South.
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Thornton, CO.
Private: The Ranch CC. My aunt and uncle were once members there, but moved further west and don't play much golf anymore. I've seen a couple holes from the road and I'm not sure I'm missing out on anything special. Has that late 60s/early 70s kind of Trent Jones Lite look to it, and I don't mean in a good way. Without looking it up, I'd guess the architect is one of the Phelps', who seem to be rather prolific at saturating Denver with mediocrity.
Public: Looks like Heritage at Todd Creek,which is Art Hills. There is some irony in it because I've played the other "Heritage at" courses in town which are all further away. Out of those the Hurdzan/Fry out by Jeffco Airport is the best one. For whatever reason I've never been to this particular one, but it's also in the opposite direction from where my usual playing partners live, which may explain why I usually end up in Westminster or Arvada. But I've played enough Arthur Hills courses in Denver already.
Matthew,
Yes, The Ranch is Dick Phelps, and you're really not missing anything.
Todd Creek opened after I left the area so I don't know it, but isn't it just up the road from Riverdale Dunes anyway? I did get a couple rounds at Heritage Westmoor back in the day and agree it's not bad.
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What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played?
Public: Rockleigh, NJ Muni (12 miles from home)
Why? I've heard that rounds take 5+ hours. I'm not a Bergen resident so green fees are not a good value and I have many other options.Who designed it? According to their website "Robert McNeil of The Northeast Golf Company"
Private. Ridgewood CC (15 miles from home)Why? Don't know a member, but I've heard that it's an excellent course, worth checking out if you're anywhere within 15 miles ;)
Actually, I've walked the course during the Barclays and it lives up to its excellent reputation
Who designed it? A.W. Tillinghast
Approximately where do you live? Rockland County NY (20 miles north of New York City)
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? Tuxedo or Arcola, both approx 17 milesWhat's stopping you? Same reason as Ridgewood
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Matthew,
Yes, The Ranch is Dick Phelps, and you're really not missing anything.
Todd Creek opened after I left the area so I don't know it, but isn't it just up the road from Riverdale Dunes anyway? I did get a couple rounds at Heritage Westmoor back in the day and agree it's not bad.
Yeah, Todd Creek is about 2-3 miles straight north of the Riverdale Dunes/Knolls complex. As mentioned I don't really go in that direction much. I haven't played Riverdale Knolls either, so I guess that might be about the same distance from me. I have played Riverdale Dunes, though.
The closest course to me is Thorncreek and I have a strong distaste for it.
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Duh, I just realized I botched my "private course" answer. I've never played El Niguel Country Club (which is much closer to home than Shady Canyon), although if I'd played better in a high school practice, I would've been able to. We had a match vs. Dana Hills, whose home course is El Niguel, but I played poorly in practice and our coach benched me for the match. Still 27+ years later, I've never played there.
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The nearest one (5 miles from my house) I have not played and the only one I have not played in Rutland is Kendrew Barracks (formerly RAF Cottesmore) ( hole golf course which has interesting obstacles
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The nearest 18 hole course that I have not played is Priors Hall in Corby designed by Fred Hawtree in 1967 - http://www.priorshallgolfclub.com/ (http://www.priorshallgolfclub.com/)
... is playing through controlled by the tower?
Not these days as no planes fly here anymore as the base was converted from RAF (Royal Air Force) to Army Barracks - it is much quieter in the skies where I live these days even though I miss the Tornados, Harriers and AWACs
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I have played most of the public courses in San Diego County with the exception of Rams Hill as it is an hour and a half away from my home but, I will be knocking the course off the list as i am playing it tomorrow morning.
As for the private course, it would be Rancho Santa Fe Country Club which was designed by MAx Behr back in 1927 and the reason I have not played it so far, is due to the lack of access as I do not know any members.
I have heard nothing but great things about the course from the people I know who have played it and hopefully one of these days I will crossing it off the list as well
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Frank: I believe guests of The Inn at Rancho Santa Fe have access to RSFGC, if you really want to get out there.
Have fun at Rams Hill! I love it.
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Indeed I've played there twice through this route. Ask for a room in the new casitas at the back of the property, they are very nice with fireplaces and free firewood. The food at the Inn is outstanding. You can also do it through Hotel Valencia but that will cost about 6x as much as RSFI!
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- What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Stonewall
- Approximately where do you live? Chester Springs, PA
- Why? Stonewall - doesn't allow outside play.
- Who designed it? Doak/Hanse/Urbina
- What's stopping you? Nothing in particular.
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Next closest is Pueblo El Mirage, a "Fuzzy Zoeller" design. Looks utterly awful.
I once nearly killed a guy exiting his 5th Wheel early in the morning. My snap hook rattled around underneath the camper.
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What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Either Atlanta Country Club or Indian Hills Country Club
Approximately where do you live? Atlanta, GA
Why? Neither course allows outside play
Who designed it? ACC - Willard Byrd; Indian Hills - Joe Lee
What's stopping you? I'm not a member
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I live in the West Valley of Phoenix.
PUBLIC: Peoria Pines, an "executive " course at 4500y, designed by Greg Nash.
PRIVATE: Arrowhead CC, a Palmer design. Missed an opportunity to play there in an inter-club event. Next in line is Phoenix CC although I walked the course during the recent Schwab Cup event and was very impressed. Designed by Harry Collis in the 1920s and renovated by Lehman/Fought in 2002.
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Private: Columbia Edgewater.
Not an access whore. However, I recently put up a photo tour from attending LPGA event.
Public: Camas Meadows. Walker. This course is routed through a business park with long green to tee distances. Had a free round coupon that I was saved from using by showing up on the day they punched greens.
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East end of long island: Maidstone, Shinny, FH
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I live on a mountain in the woods 8 miles outside of Lehighton, PA, where I'm presently adding four foot thick lead walls to my basement in anticipation of the next four years. :-X
Nearest privates to me I haven't played are two nine hole community courses, Naomi Lakes Timber Trails (1974 - likely Logan Steele and Ray Hansen) (32.3 miles) and Thornhurst Estates CC (Art Hitson 1963) (38.5 miles).
Nearest public is a 1150 yard par three nine hole course at Newfoundland GC (Vance Megargel/John Rasmussen 1947) (51.6 miles)
Of 18 hole private courses, the nearest are Panther Valley CC (Allamuchy, NJ) (RTJ Sr.) (52 miles), while in PA I haven't played Squires GC in Horsham, PA (George Fazio) (63.3 miles) and Old York Road CC (William/David Gordon) nearby (65.3).
Nearest public 18 hole course I haven't played is too difficult to determine but is likely something in northern NJ, but in PA they would be Rock Creek GC in Nicholson, PA (72.5 miles) and Cricket Hill GC near Honesdale (78 miles).
Other than lack of invites, I have no real reasons for not playing any of them and would enjoy playing them all, even if some are likely horrific architecturally based on drive by's. :)
After posting this I've since played Newfoundland, Crkcket Hill, and two holes of Timber Trails (thunderstorms).
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Bellport and Pine Hills
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Live in greater New Haven, Connecticut
Private: Fisher's Island. A ferry ride and an invitation away. Will be exploring any and all opportunities to play this Reynor gem.
Public: Hotchkiss school. This "You can't get there from here" Banks 9 holer is 1.5 hour drive on the way to nowhere in the northwest hills in Connecticut but I'm determined to carve out time this season to visit.
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Lake Shore which is private and located near Skokie and other nice North Shore courses. Bendelow was the original architect and Prichard did the most recent work on the course. I’ve heard it has a lot of ravines like Shoreacres but they aren’t strategically important. Will try to get out there this summer.
In terms of public courses, I’m keen on playing Esler’s restoration of Mount Prospect.
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Every time I play my home course I pass City of Newcastle GC, which I have never played, despite having lessons there.
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- What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Joliet Country Club
- Approximately where DID you live? Shorewood, Ill.
- Why? Too busy as a kid before college and only played golf in between sports in the summer basically. Didn't start playing golf more until after I graduated college.
- Who designed it? I think it was Tom Bendelow
- What's stopping you? Always played Inwood GC a muni where my dad worked part time and still does for the last 40 years. Plus my dad is very frugal and blue collar, I grew up thinking only the rich kids played there, so I guess it stuck.
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East end of long island: Maidstone, Shinny, FH
Also on the east end. Too numerous to even mention.
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Public
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Little River Golf & Resort or Whispering Woods Golf Club, both about 3 miles away.
Approximately where do you live? Near the Airport in Pinehurst.
Who designed it? Dan Maples
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? Whichever of the two listed about that I didn't play. Beyond that, either Talamore or Longleaf.
What's stopping you? Time and a wealth of public options nearby. They're a bit lower on the list than some other places.
Private
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Forest Creek Golf Club
Who designed it? Fazio
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? Country Club of North Carolina, I think.
What's stopping you? Time mostly.
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For me it must be Alness since it became an 18 holer. Otherwise it would be Skibo.
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There must be dozens of courses in the Manchester area I haven't played, and very few that interest me,
As for well-known courses, I have never played Birkdale or Royal Lytham, despite living an hour away. They are just too damn expensive. I'm happy enough with Formby and Wallasey, for less than half the price.
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I've now played all the Buffalo-area private clubs, so the next closest private clubs would be Hamilton, Ontario (any Ancaster members out there?) or Rochester (calling Oak Hill, Monroe, et al.) I still haven't hit the mom'n pops in between Buffalo and the PA border, so perhaps I'll get out to them this year.
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I barely play any more but reading this thread makes me feel guilty for the local wealth I have enjoyed...
I actually had to look at a map...
Where do you live?: Danbury CT.
Nearest PRIVATE un-played: CC of New Canaan (about 14 miles away)
Why? I was supposed to caddie for a US Am qualifier and play with him for his practice round, but it was rained out, and then he had to withdraw a week before...never had occasion again. I've never heard of it being that special, but the property is fairly old and somewhat visible from a regular thoroughfare which I used to pass all the time.
Public: Centennial (Carmel NY).
Why?This is kind of insane because it's close I had a hundred occasions/inducements to play there from its opening day, as I worked for one of the original owners at that time. Almost played it last year on August 14, but plans went awry.
cheers vk
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Updating my post on page 2
I have one course left to play in my home state, Oregon. That is Woodburn Senior Estates, about 45 minutes south. It is private with a restrictive guest policy. I should play there sometime in April.
Closest others are three 9 holers along the Columbia River in Washington. Closest private is somewhere around Centralia or Olympia, about two hours away.
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The closest course to me I haven’t played is Elkridge Club, a Raynor in Baltimore and less than 5 minutes from my house. The reason I haven’t played there is because it’s private and I’m not a member.
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What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Two categories: Public and Private.
Public: Fair Way Golf Course - Lebanon, Indiana - 28.7 miles
Private: The Club at Chatham Hills - Westfield, Indiana - 10.4 miles
So you've played Hickory Bend, just west of Wolf Run on route 32? I pass that one by every time I'm on the way to Trophy Club. Might stop by some day.
I live about a mile and a half from Mr. Sander. Mine:
Private: Crooked Stick 5 miles. Why not: On the rare occasions I run into someone I learn is a member I'm never comfortable feeling as though I'm begging for access.
Public: Prairie View 2 miles. RTJ Jr. Why not: I'm a cheapskate, too many good, less expensive courses in the area.
Next closest private: The Bridgewater Club. Pete Dye.
Next closest public: Pebble Brook, North Course. Ron Kern. I've played the South.
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I live in mid-Cheshire, England.
I have never played Vale Royal Abbey (ca 10 miles away), a Simon Gidman course, because it opened after I had written my Cheshire book, and then other things took my fancy. If you are going to play in that area you play Sandiway or Delamere, which I could usually play for nothing.
Nor have I played Pryors Hayes which is a public course near Delamere, by John Day, and if you can play Delamere or Sandiway....
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I've now played all the Buffalo-area private clubs, so the next closest private clubs would be Hamilton, Ontario (any Ancaster members out there?) or Rochester (calling Oak Hill, Monroe, et al.) I still haven't hit the mom'n pops in between Buffalo and the PA border, so perhaps I'll get out to them this year.
There are several good private closes in Niagara that are a lot closer to you than Hamilton. Lookout Point and Cherry Hill are two Travis designs- have you played them? Then there is St. Catherine’s as well.
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I live in Golden Valley, MN.
The nearest courses that I haven't played are two muni 9-hole par 3 courses that are about the same distance from me: New Hope Village and Centerbrook.
The closest full course I haven't played is probably Victory Links in Blaine, MN. It is actually a place I would be interested in playing, but I just haven't gotten there.
I have played all of the private clubs in the Twin Cities with the exception of the 9-hole Lafayette Club. It seems like way more of a social club than a golf club as it is on the shores of Lake Minnetonka. The course is only 2148 yards and par 31. I have never given any effort toward playing there.
If I was to play there, the next closest private club I haven't played is probably Austin Country Club in Austin, MN. It is 107 miles from my house. I am kind of surprised I have never played there as a friend from my junior golf days grew up there.
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I live in mid-Cheshire, England.
I have never played Vale Royal Abbey (ca 10 miles away), a Simon Gidman course, because it opened after I had written my Cheshire book, and then other things took my fancy. If you are going to play in that area you play Sandiway or Delamere, which I could usually play for nothing.
Nor have I played Pryors Hayes which is a public course near Delamere, by John Day, and if you can play Delamere or Sandiway....
You're not missing a lot, Mark. Vale Royal is highly thought of by a lot of my golfing friends, but I don't really understand why. I've played it twice and can barely remember anything about it. Why anyone would go there in preference to Delamere or Sandiway - both almost next door - is a mystery to me. It's a bog standard pleasant enough modern parkland course without any particular distinguishing features. Its descent from its original super exclusive members only status to being a TeeOffTimes staple is noticable.
Incidentally, there was much excitement at Reddish Vale last year when our ranking among Cheshire courses jumped from 19 to 11. Personally I feel that we are still under-rated will not be happy until we get into the top 5 behind Hoylake, Delamere, Wallasey, and Sandiway. You're the expert on Cheshire courses - am I being realistic?
We need to topple Dunham, Caldy, Stockport, Mere, Prestbury, and Wilmslow.
Prestbury is the only one I have doubts about...
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Duncan,
it is funny you mention Mere. I played there quite a lot in the late 80's and it certainly has a good location, very good clubhouse. The course itself had many very good holes but it was usually quite wet and always felt like a bit of a slog which was a shame. Had the course been a lot firmer I am sure it would have been a lot of fun.
Jon
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Lake Shore which is private and located near Skokie and other nice North Shore courses. Bendelow was the original architect and Prichard did the most recent work on the course. I’ve heard it has a lot of ravines like Shoreacres but they aren’t strategically important. Will try to get out there this summer.
In terms of public courses, I’m keen on playing Esler’s restoration of Mount Prospect.
Terry: I played Lake Shore last summer from a charity auction. So good. The scorecard claims the original architect is Frederick Law Olstead Jr. which may or may not be true. I could play that course everyday.
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Good one Kyle...
What's the nearest course to you which you haven't played? Two categories: Public and Private. Public is probably Wenham CC...private is probably Thomson CC in North Reading....both 8-10 miles from my house.
Approximately where do you live? Marblehead, MA
Why? Wenham is par 66, and is surrounded by great courses, though mostly private....Thomson is a full course, yet by all accounts is not enjoyable due to OB on both sides every hole.
Who designed it? Wenham is actually well over 100 years old, and was formed by some Myopia caddies pre-1900...not sure of the designer. Thomson CC is by Geoffrey Cornish, circa 1970s.
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? There are a few local 9-holers I haven't played(Reedy Meadow in Lynnfield, New Meadows in Topsfield, and some of these are not full length...private may be Bellevue, a 9-holer by Stiles in Melrose, MA.
What's stopping you? Not much, other than my club being a great course and only 2mins away, and the North Shore of Boston having many other great privates and good publics.
Also, if you've only been in your current location for under two years, how do these answers change with your previous address? I lived in Boston previously...the local public ones to Boston that I haven't played are Furnace Brook in Quincy (9) or Leo J. Martin...private is definitely Belmont or Bellevue. If I used my workplace in Quincy, Blue Hill in Canton would be the nearest private I haven't played.
I got a chance to play Bellevue GC in Melrose, Massachusetts which is a Wayne Stiles 9 holer. With all the great courses north of Boston this one gets lost in the shuffle and really was fun to play. All the hole drawings are in the Men’s lockeroom and it doesn’t appear there have been any substantive changes over the years. Presentation and conditioning were as good as anywhere I played this year with mow lines and green speeds just about perfect. We got around in less than 3 and a half hours walking and I would have been happy to report directly back to 1 tee to go again if that was an option. I deem anyone that is a member here a lucky man. :)
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2.5 years later, all of the above applies for me!
Bellevue looks nice, just don't really have a reason to make it a priority.
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Private—Squires
Public—Pennsauken or another public course in New Jersey with a low profile.
I know several Squires members but they probably don’t invite me because I don’t drink!
There are several public courses just across the bridges in New Jersey that I haven’t been asked to play.
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Public.
Lincoln Park Golf Course
Approximately where do you live? San Francisco, CA (Inner Richmond district). 1.6 mile drive.
[/size]Why? Don’t know really know, other than it looks to be in crappy condition, crowded, and other than it's one famous postcard hole, not really worth my time when I have other options.
Who designed it? Don’t know.
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? The next closest public that I haven’t played is Gleneagles, a nine hole course in the southern reaches of the city.
What's stopping you? Time. I have two kids with active schedules and a career that puts me on a lot of planes. When I do have time, I usually play at my home club.
[/size]Private.Meadow Club
Approximately where do you live? San Francisco, CA (Inner Richmond district). 20 mile drive.
Why? Haven’t gotten an invite nor have I really pushed for one.
Who designed it? Alistair Mackenzie
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? Burlingame CC, which I am quite curious to see as I recently drove past it and looked much more interesting than I’ve been led to believe.
What's stopping you? Invite and time
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I live on a mountain in the woods 8 miles outside of Lehighton, PA, where I'm presently adding four foot thick lead walls to my basement in anticipation of the next four years. :-X
Nearest privates to me I haven't played are two nine hole community courses, Naomi Lakes Timber Trails (1974 - likely Logan Steele and Ray Hansen) (32.3 miles) and Thornhurst Estates CC (Art Hitson 1963) (38.5 miles).
Nearest public is a 1150 yard par three nine hole course at Newfoundland GC (Vance Megargel/John Rasmussen 1947) (51.6 miles)
Of 18 hole private courses, the nearest are Panther Valley CC (Allamuchy, NJ) (RTJ Sr.) (52 miles), while in PA I haven't played Squires GC in Horsham, PA (George Fazio) (63.3 miles) and Old York Road CC (William/David Gordon) nearby (65.3).
Nearest public 18 hole course I haven't played is too difficult to determine but is likely something in northern NJ, but in PA they would be Rock Creek GC in Nicholson, PA (72.5 miles) and Cricket Hill GC near Honesdale (78 miles).
Other than lack of invites, I have no real reasons for not playing any of them and would enjoy playing them all, even if some are likely horrific architecturally based on drive by's. :)
Update - I've since played Rock Creek (where I nearly died trying to walk on a 95 degree day), Cricket Hill, Newfoundland, and three holes of the nine hole Timber Trails before lightning ended our game.
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Indian Hill CC-Newington,CT-5.5 miles-Private
Westwoods GC-Farmington,CT-9 miles-Public
I don’t really have a reason for not playing these courses other than lack of interest.
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Private—Squires
Public—Pennsauken or another public course in New Jersey with a low profile.
I know several Squires members but they probably don’t invite me because I don’t drink!
There are several public courses just across the bridges in New Jersey that I haven’t been asked to play.
Mike-We’ll send a car to get you over to Jersey. What day is good?
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Vail, CO:
Private: Eagle Springs (Weiskopf), Wolcott, CO. 6.5 Miles away
Public: Played all of them.
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Home: Westminster, CO (for one more week anyway)
Private: The Ranch CC
Not a member, don't know a member, and I don't feel like I'm missing anything. It's not like there aren't plenty of Phelps Sr/Jr layouts in the area already.
Public: Coal Creek
Was underwater for a few years and then rebuilt recently. Don't really know much about it but it's sort of in a funny area relative to where I live. I've played everything else that's public north of I-70. They seem to want about $10-15 more than similar courses in the area so I guess I've shied away from it.
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Two categories:Public - Bunker Hill Golf Club Princeton, NJ but really 8.6 miles away in Franklin Twp. I believe. Princeton Addresses now run from just north of Trenton to nearly New Brunswick, or North Brunswick anyway. )
Private - Rossmoor Country Club, Monroe Twp, NJ, 11.8 miles from my home in downtown Princeton.
Why? Bunker Hill - never played, there just always seemed to be a better place to play, and in my twenties my friends who did not belong to Springdale always seemed to be playing somewhere else like Cranbury or Mtn View. Rossmoor - Ironic that I have never played since the Pro is a long time acquiantance - married our wedding Maid of Honor and my wife's closest college friend. Just never got there.
Who designed it?Bunker Hill - designed by Alec Ternyei who I have never heard of. Rossmoor- interestingly enough designed by Desmond Muirhead who specialized in retirement community courses at some point. Also responsible for the well known Stone Harbor in NJ ( Doak Scale ZERO I believe). Rossmoor is actually supposed to be a solid course.
What would the answer be if you played it your next round? Public - Miry Run Country Club Private: Greenbriar Golf Course
What's stopping you? Nothing ! I could probably Rossmoor with the Pro ! No real reason to play Bunker hill when I want to go play Rock Spring, Rolling Green, Essex Co (again), Ridgewood, Mountain Ridge, Hidden Creek (again) Saucon Valley Old, Lehigh, Yale (for the 15th time) etc etc.
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Bill,
You missed your chance to play Miry Run. It's been closed for a few years now.
I almost died at Bunker Hill, trapped laying flat in the woods off the 12th green for 1.5 hours during an intense lightning storm.
Long story, but golf is a treacherous and dangerous game so one needs to be careful where one plays.
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I'll separate it into three categories...
Public: Saddlebrook. Designed by Bob Thompson per their website. Looking at it from the road, it looks like the kind of place where I would quit golf before I would play it.
Public that is probably worth playing: The Brickyard. (Pete Dye) It just gives me a gimmicky vibe with the whole inside-the-track thing and the other ties to the track and its events, although I'm sure it's a fine course from what I've heard.
Private: Bridgewater Club. (Pete Dye) I would be driving past a half dozen clubs I really like to get there, so I've never made the effort to get out there.
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Diablo CC...classic old Willie Watson course that they just ripped up. Guess I will wait a little longer....