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Title: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JJShanley on September 15, 2015, 10:59:21 AM
I've an overnight midweek trip planned to Grand Rapids later this month, during which I'll have time for two rounds.  I plan on playing Mines and GVSU-Meadows.  Does this sound a good idea?
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Chris DeToro on September 15, 2015, 11:05:14 AM
I definitely recommend The Mines.  It's fun, tough, and really reasonable.  If you have time, I'd make the 30-40 minute drive up to Pilgrims Run.  That would make a nice Devries double. 
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Jason Way on September 15, 2015, 11:15:17 AM
I definitely recommend The Mines.  It's fun, tough, and really reasonable.  If you have time, I'd make the 30-40 minute drive up to Pilgrims Run.  That would make a nice Devries double.


+1
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JJShanley on September 15, 2015, 11:22:21 AM
Thanks!  Now that you mention P-R-, I'm half-tempted to play all three.  Should I bother with GVSU?
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: BCowan on September 15, 2015, 12:12:22 PM
DeVries trifecta, add diamond springs, 35 mins away.  Ur in craft beer nirvana too.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Peter Pallotta on September 15, 2015, 12:17:21 PM
JJ - I'll add my vote for the Mines, which is still (and easily) the best architectural value I've ever played.  Fun and thoughtful design features/challenges abound at every turn, but all done quietly and simply and without seeming artifice. 
Peter
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Anthony_Nysse on September 15, 2015, 01:48:08 PM
The Mines and Pilgrims Run. Both are located just off the highway. The Mines is 5 mins west of downtown off of I-96(near John Ball Zoo) and Pilgrims Run is 25-30 mins due north on 131 to 22mile road. Take 22mile to Newcosta and you're there.

Anyone know why The Mines is called, "The Mines?" Fun Fact of the day....
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Richard Hetzel on September 15, 2015, 02:23:21 PM
The Mines and Pilgrims Run. Both are located just off the highway. The Mines is 5 mins west of downtown off of I-96(near John Ball Zoo) and Pilgrims Run is 25-30 mins due north on 131 to 22mile road. Take 22mile to Newcosta and you're there.

Anyone know why The Mines is called, "The Mines?" Fun Fact of the day....

Because it was built atop old gypsum mines?
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Anthony_Nysse on September 15, 2015, 02:33:59 PM
The Mines and Pilgrims Run. Both are located just off the highway. The Mines is 5 mins west of downtown off of I-96(near John Ball Zoo) and Pilgrims Run is 25-30 mins due north on 131 to 22mile road. Take 22mile to Newcosta and you're there.

Anyone know why The Mines is called, "The Mines?" Fun Fact of the day....

Because it was built atop old gypsum mines?

Bingo! Actually toured the mines when I was in grade school for a field trip.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JJShanley on September 15, 2015, 05:05:08 PM
Thanks for the suggestions!  I'm still curious about GVSU.  Is it worth a drive from Notre Dame, Ind. at some point?
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Anthony_Nysse on September 15, 2015, 07:33:34 PM
Nope. Too many better options in between.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Chris DeToro on September 16, 2015, 07:40:29 AM
I've not heard anything great about GVSU, but there definitely seem to be some better options. 
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Anthony_Nysse on September 16, 2015, 08:50:18 AM
Thanks for the suggestions!  I'm still curious about GVSU.  Is it worth a drive from Notre Dame, Ind. at some point?

Though I have not been there in years, Angels Crossing is south of GR that has a lot of fan fare here when it opened and Diamond Springs would be ANOTHER DeVries course to check out.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Chris DeToro on September 16, 2015, 09:19:49 AM
Angel's Crossing is good, but that's more Kalamazoo than GR--it might actually be closer to South Bend though
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JJShanley on September 16, 2015, 09:41:02 AM
I played 15 holes at A-C- in June, before I got rained out.  (The course, already pretty wet, flooded that day.)


  I loved it.  I'm heading back for 36 holes on my birthday next week.  I plan on taking Papa Shanley there if/when he comes to visit next spring. 
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Anthony_Nysse on September 16, 2015, 10:51:02 AM
Angel's Crossing is good, but that's more Kalamazoo than GR--it might actually be closer to South Bend though

Correct, but there was a comment about coming from Notre Dame.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Jaeger Kovich on September 16, 2015, 01:56:21 PM
Pretty soon you will have to add Gull Lake View to this list when the Renaissance boys are done!
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JJShanley on May 30, 2016, 10:33:59 AM

I eventually had the chance to visit Grand Rapids a few weeks back, playing Meadows, Mines, Kaufman, Pilgrim's Run, and Diamond Springs over three days.


Meadows was okay, but not particularly interesting.  I feel grateful that I played it before the rough grew in, as my playing partners said that it gets out of control during the summer.  Friendly enough people, which actually reflects Grand Rapids as a whole.


Mines was good fun, and I ended up playing with someone who now works with a former ND colleague!  The routing is a challenge, and I don't think you could walk it, but I'd go back.  It felt like three courses: 1-4 over the road; the Scrubland holes to the south; and and the remaining, more parkland-style holes on the north of the property.  I particularly enjoyed the par-3 8th, which reminds me of photographs I've seen of PVGC. 


Golf needs more places like Kaufman.  Sure they could thin out the trees in places on the back nine to improve the turf behind the greens, but I could play there every day while walking.  It seemed to have a culture of golf, which brought together older, trash-talking GR-ites, high-school players, and bros to name but three demographics I had the pleasure of encountering.  All seemed to coexist. 


Pilgrim's Run proves the idea that rather than rank courses, one should judge them on whether you'd go out immediately for a second round.  The weather prevented that, although I considered taking a hit and getting utterly soaked for the price of a second round.  I wonder about 18 as a suitable hole.  I don't think it provides much in the way of strategy, compared to other shorter par-4s I've played or seen.  You have an obvious reward for driving the green, with any other decent drive leaving in a half-shot, but I don't see it as a shot that someone would take on all that often.  Other than that, I found it great fun, and just the correct side of cerebral without lacking in fun. 


I played Diamond Springs my final day.  I didn't much discussion of the course from my searches, other than suggestions that folk play it.  If I hasn't seen much play from the Treehouse, I happily served as your guinea pig!  I found it minimalist (rustic, even) to say the least, but lacking in very little.  I loved the single cut presentation that sees the tees, while slightly elevated, run into the fairways.  It had received some significant rain the previous afternoon (see previous paragraph) but still played F&F, especially as the temperatures warmed up to the high-80s as the day went on. 


I had only two criticisms: (1) While I appreciated the two or three tee options available, I wondered whether a hybrid card would help golfers like myself who want to play a longer course than 6,100 yards, but for whom 6,800 yards is too long.  (I don't have the card to hand, but those sound about right.)  (2) I wonder whether 14, a par-3 over a ravine, actually makes the most of the terrain.  You don't see the ravine from the back tees, so I wonder if it would play better at a shorter yardage.  I didn't know about the carry until I realized I'd hit (an admittedly awful shot) into it short-right.  It does benefit from a *wild* green that might suit a short template hole, but I can imagine the fun of hitting a 4-iron into those contours and watching the ball does as gravity demands.


Those comments aside, I'd go back there given the opportunity.  Wide fairways promote fast play after a bad tee shot - the three balls I lost (6, 14, and 18) came as the result of swings that deserved their fate - but they don't give up easy pars unless you think your way around.  I particularly enjoyed 13, which has two bunkers guarding the dog-leg that you can either carry or avoid short and/or left.  I had sprayed the ball from the tee all day, but figured out my alignment on that tee.  I wasted it with a tugged 9-iron into the left greenside bunker which left a challenging (read, "fun") recovery which I didn't quite pull off.


I also met a great dog, possibly a Bernese Mountain, named Pebble in the pro-shop.  I'd go back for his sake, but also for a great day of golf. 


Thank you all for your suggestions since the start of this thread.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on these courses!
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JLahrman on May 30, 2016, 11:08:53 AM
My in-laws live in Grand Rapids and we'll be up there with the kids late July. I haven't played any golf around Grand Rapids (saved it for Traverse area) but this year I'm planning to get out once or twice. Default starting point is the Mines and Pilgrim's Run.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: BCowan on May 30, 2016, 01:20:58 PM
Diamond springs is closer to holland, but it's my favorite by far.  Pilgrims comes in 2nd.  Mines 3rd, cartballer track
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JLahrman on May 30, 2016, 01:54:30 PM
Is Pilgrims Run as narrow as it looks from the aerial? I see a lot of hallways through the trees. I'm 6'6" and rusty, so I hit the ball all over the lot. I don't want to go someplace where I'm going to lose 15 balls.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JJShanley on May 30, 2016, 01:58:07 PM
Is Pilgrims Run as narrow as it looks from the aerial? I see a lot of hallways through the trees. I'm 6'6" and rusty, so I hit the ball all over the lot. I don't want to go someplace where I'm going to lose 15 balls.


I didn't lose a ball that morning.  It has plenty trees, for sure, but I had no problems when I went right off the tee.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on May 30, 2016, 07:35:51 PM
I suspect some here don't like it but further up the road is Tullymore. It is great fun.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: BCowan on May 30, 2016, 10:07:13 PM

I eventually had the chance to visit Grand Rapids a few weeks back, playing Meadows, Mines, Kaufman, Pilgrim's Run, and Diamond Springs over three days.


Meadows was okay, but not particularly interesting.  I feel grateful that I played it before the rough grew in, as my playing partners said that it gets out of control during the summer.  Friendly enough people, which actually reflects Grand Rapids as a whole.


Mines was good fun, and I ended up playing with someone who now works with a former ND colleague!  The routing is a challenge, and I don't think you could walk it, but I'd go back.  It felt like three courses: 1-4 over the road; the Scrubland holes to the south; and and the remaining, more parkland-style holes on the north of the property.  I particularly enjoyed the par-3 8th, which reminds me of photographs I've seen of PVGC. 


Golf needs more places like Kaufman.  Sure they could thin out the trees in places on the back nine to improve the turf behind the greens, but I could play there every day while walking.  It seemed to have a culture of golf, which brought together older, trash-talking GR-ites, high-school players, and bros to name but three demographics I had the pleasure of encountering.  All seemed to coexist. 


Pilgrim's Run proves the idea that rather than rank courses, one should judge them on whether you'd go out immediately for a second round.  The weather prevented that, although I considered taking a hit and getting utterly soaked for the price of a second round.  I wonder about 18 as a suitable hole.  I don't think it provides much in the way of strategy, compared to other shorter par-4s I've played or seen.  You have an obvious reward for driving the green, with any other decent drive leaving in a half-shot, but I don't see it as a shot that someone would take on all that often.  Other than that, I found it great fun, and just the correct side of cerebral without lacking in fun. 


I played Diamond Springs my final day.  I didn't much discussion of the course from my searches, other than suggestions that folk play it.  If I hasn't seen much play from the Treehouse, I happily served as your guinea pig!  I found it minimalist (rustic, even) to say the least, but lacking in very little.  I loved the single cut presentation that sees the tees, while slightly elevated, run into the fairways.  It had received some significant rain the previous afternoon (see previous paragraph) but still played F&F, especially as the temperatures warmed up to the high-80s as the day went on. 


I had only two criticisms: (1) While I appreciated the two or three tee options available, I wondered whether a hybrid card would help golfers like myself who want to play a longer course than 6,100 yards, but for whom 6,800 yards is too long.  (I don't have the card to hand, but those sound about right.)  (2) I wonder whether 14, a par-3 over a ravine, actually makes the most of the terrain.  You don't see the ravine from the back tees, so I wonder if it would play better at a shorter yardage.  I didn't know about the carry until I realized I'd hit (an admittedly awful shot) into it short-right.  It does benefit from a *wild* green that might suit a short template hole, but I can imagine the fun of hitting a 4-iron into those contours and watching the ball does as gravity demands.


Those comments aside, I'd go back there given the opportunity.  Wide fairways promote fast play after a bad tee shot - the three balls I lost (6, 14, and 18) came as the result of swings that deserved their fate - but they don't give up easy pars unless you think your way around.  I particularly enjoyed 13, which has two bunkers guarding the dog-leg that you can either carry or avoid short and/or left.  I had sprayed the ball from the tee all day, but figured out my alignment on that tee.  I wasted it with a tugged 9-iron into the left greenside bunker which left a challenging (read, "fun") recovery which I didn't quite pull off.


I also met a great dog, possibly a Bernese Mountain, named Pebble in the pro-shop.  I'd go back for his sake, but also for a great day of golf. 


Thank you all for your suggestions since the start of this thread.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on these courses!

JJ,

   Thanks for the post.  I need to play Kaufman. Pilgrim's Run is on a great piece of land.  From all the accounts I have heard Mike DeVries came into the project late and designed the green complexes and might not of did the actual routing.  That aside some of the big issues I have are the double hazards on #3 (I think) it has trees overhanging forced carries.  Tree canopy's over greens and tree trunk bases 6 yards from putting surface.  There are some really great holes (Can't remember the #'s).  I'm indifferent on #18, It was our 36th hole of the day walking and I hit a terrible 2 iron off the tee and buddy of mine and I walked in.  The hole really caught my eye and I thought it was interesting as I looked it over walking in.  That is coming from a guy who hates ponds.  I defiantly would return, however i think given the land and the right initial ownership that it could of been very very special of a course. 

   Diamond Springs, That is interesting that you said it still played firm after rain.  I played it on Labor day last year and it was really soft.  We had hot weather and I presumed they had just dosed the fairways because the pro said they hadn't had rain.  I would love to see Diamond Springs with 007 Bent grass fairways.  I really disagree with your opinion about hybrid cards.  I think 4 sets of tee markers with more space between them is best.  If a course is watered properly (much less) and has any elevation changes throw the numbers out the window.  We have 5 and 6 sets of tee markers and spend too much time customizing golf.  The 13th green has too much slope for the speeds they run the greens when I played it, prob 10.  The green is built for 6 or 7 stimp.  The clubhouse at Diamond is small, yet they haven't used it 3 years.  They just sell turn sandwiches in the golf shop.  Golf needs 50 more Diamond Springs courses.  Great design, affordable, min. maint costs with no mow rough with fescue.  It is rather jaw dropping that GCAers haven't played this course considering the Archie is a fan favorite.  Only thing I can come up with is we have a lot of Maint whores on here.  I really enjoy the great use of speed slots at DS. 
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Anthony_Nysse on May 31, 2016, 07:19:47 AM

I eventually had the chance to visit Grand Rapids a few weeks back, playing Meadows, Mines, Kaufman, Pilgrim's Run, and Diamond Springs over three days.


Meadows was okay, but not particularly interesting.  I feel grateful that I played it before the rough grew in, as my playing partners said that it gets out of control during the summer.  Friendly enough people, which actually reflects Grand Rapids as a whole.

I think that it should be noted that Mike Devries and Kris Shumaker are the team behind Pilgrims Run, Diamond Springs and The Mines. I don't think their appeal and uniqueness are by accident. I can remember meeting Kris at PR before it ever open with my father. My father also worked with Kris at DS. Kris is a stand up guy, with a very deep interest in architecture. He flies under the radar, but seems to have some level of success at each place he gets involved in.


Mines was good fun, and I ended up playing with someone who now works with a former ND colleague!  The routing is a challenge, and I don't think you could walk it, but I'd go back.  It felt like three courses: 1-4 over the road; the Scrubland holes to the south; and and the remaining, more parkland-style holes on the north of the property.  I particularly enjoyed the par-3 8th, which reminds me of photographs I've seen of PVGC. 


Golf needs more places like Kaufman.  Sure they could thin out the trees in places on the back nine to improve the turf behind the greens, but I could play there every day while walking.  It seemed to have a culture of golf, which brought together older, trash-talking GR-ites, high-school players, and bros to name but three demographics I had the pleasure of encountering.  All seemed to coexist. 


Pilgrim's Run proves the idea that rather than rank courses, one should judge them on whether you'd go out immediately for a second round.  The weather prevented that, although I considered taking a hit and getting utterly soaked for the price of a second round.  I wonder about 18 as a suitable hole.  I don't think it provides much in the way of strategy, compared to other shorter par-4s I've played or seen.  You have an obvious reward for driving the green, with any other decent drive leaving in a half-shot, but I don't see it as a shot that someone would take on all that often.  Other than that, I found it great fun, and just the correct side of cerebral without lacking in fun. 


I played Diamond Springs my final day.  I didn't much discussion of the course from my searches, other than suggestions that folk play it.  If I hasn't seen much play from the Treehouse, I happily served as your guinea pig!  I found it minimalist (rustic, even) to say the least, but lacking in very little.  I loved the single cut presentation that sees the tees, while slightly elevated, run into the fairways.  It had received some significant rain the previous afternoon (see previous paragraph) but still played F&F, especially as the temperatures warmed up to the high-80s as the day went on. 


I had only two criticisms: (1) While I appreciated the two or three tee options available, I wondered whether a hybrid card would help golfers like myself who want to play a longer course than 6,100 yards, but for whom 6,800 yards is too long.  (I don't have the card to hand, but those sound about right.)  (2) I wonder whether 14, a par-3 over a ravine, actually makes the most of the terrain.  You don't see the ravine from the back tees, so I wonder if it would play better at a shorter yardage.  I didn't know about the carry until I realized I'd hit (an admittedly awful shot) into it short-right.  It does benefit from a *wild* green that might suit a short template hole, but I can imagine the fun of hitting a 4-iron into those contours and watching the ball does as gravity demands.


Those comments aside, I'd go back there given the opportunity.  Wide fairways promote fast play after a bad tee shot - the three balls I lost (6, 14, and 18) came as the result of swings that deserved their fate - but they don't give up easy pars unless you think your way around.  I particularly enjoyed 13, which has two bunkers guarding the dog-leg that you can either carry or avoid short and/or left.  I had sprayed the ball from the tee all day, but figured out my alignment on that tee.  I wasted it with a tugged 9-iron into the left greenside bunker which left a challenging (read, "fun") recovery which I didn't quite pull off.


I also met a great dog, possibly a Bernese Mountain, named Pebble in the pro-shop.  I'd go back for his sake, but also for a great day of golf. 


Thank you all for your suggestions since the start of this thread.  I'd love to hear your thoughts on these courses!

JJ,

   Thanks for the post.  I need to play Kaufman. Pilgrim's Run is on a great piece of land.  From all the accounts I have heard Mike DeVries came into the project late and designed the green complexes and might not of did the actual routing.  That aside some of the big issues I have are the double hazards on #3 (I think) it has trees overhanging forced carries.  Tree canopy's over greens and tree trunk bases 6 yards from putting surface.  There are some really great holes (Can't remember the #'s).  I'm indifferent on #18, It was our 36th hole of the day walking and I hit a terrible 2 iron off the tee and buddy of mine and I walked in.  The hole really caught my eye and I thought it was interesting as I looked it over walking in.  That is coming from a guy who hates ponds.  I defiantly would return, however i think given the land and the right initial ownership that it could of been very very special of a course. 

   Diamond Springs, That is interesting that you said it still played firm after rain.  I played it on Labor day last year and it was really soft.  We had hot weather and I presumed they had just dosed the fairways because the pro said they hadn't had rain.  I would love to see Diamond Springs with 007 Bent grass fairways.  I really disagree with your opinion about hybrid cards.  I think 4 sets of tee markers with more space between them is best.  If a course is watered properly (much less) and has any elevation changes throw the numbers out the window.  We have 5 and 6 sets of tee markers and spend too much time customizing golf.  The 13th green has too much slope for the speeds they run the greens when I played it, prob 10.  The green is built for 6 or 7 stimp.  The clubhouse at Diamond is small, yet they haven't used it 3 years.  They just sell turn sandwiches in the golf shop.  Golf needs 50 more Diamond Springs courses.  Great design, affordable, min. maint costs with no mow rough with fescue.  It is rather jaw dropping that GCAers haven't played this course considering the Archie is a fan favorite.  Only thing I can come up with is we have a lot of Maint whores on here.  I really enjoy the great use of speed slots at DS.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JJShanley on May 31, 2016, 07:36:39 AM
Ben,


I suggested a hybrid card because it would save them building a whole new set of tees, but I'd happily go along with new, better spaced out tees.  It wouldn't unduly affect the course to trim the fairways a little more, but the presentation didn't affect my enjoyment of the game.  I might have played a second round had the heat that day not exhausted this ginger (but graying and balding) Celt. 


WRT 18 at Pilgrims Run, I wonder whether, as you say, it suffers from the problem of having had a novice route it.  DeVries designed much better hole of that style for 15, I think, at D-S-.  You have the ravine to the right, with a smallish green, but you realize once you reach the green that you don't need to carry the ravine to drive the green.  You see a series of mounds and speed slot that will funnel the ball towards the green.  The challenge of driving the green involves hitting an arrow straight drive, I think, possibly a little fade, on a line 10 yards from the edge of the fairway.  You really don't have that sort of subtlety at PR's 18, where you choose your line based on what distance from which you fancy hitting an approach.  That involves strategy, but but not nearly as much fun at the drive on DS's 15.


One other thing: this trip helped me appreciate the bratwurst as an energy producing snack before or during a round. 
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: BCowan on May 31, 2016, 10:08:11 AM
JJ,

   I know you like Angel's Crossing very much.  What is your pick between Angel's Crossing and Diamond Springs? 
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JJShanley on May 31, 2016, 10:46:47 AM
Ben,


Based on my 2⅚ rounds at Angels Crossing and my single round at Diamond Springs, I'd say 7-3 in favor of the latter.  Maybe 6-4.  Now if I could walk 18 more easily at AC, I might even that up, but you have a hike up to the range, and then back to the clubhouse just to get to the first tee, and then you have several hikes during the first four holes.  You've just two hikes - 9→10 and then 14→15 - at DS.


I think DS has a more exciting finish, with the wild green at 14, the decision on line you need to take on 15 from the tee before a delicate approach that might measure 100 yards or just 15, a 16th that demands a progressively accurate shot a you get closer to the green, a 17th that (into the wind, as I played it) demands everything you have (a two-hybrid that carried the ravine by 6-7 yards) to an 18th in a great setting (although needing tree removal by the back tee...) where a back pin position demands the safer line, and a front pin encourages the more testing line that brings the ravine into play on both shots.  I didn't see much wrong with AC, and I love its Redan, but I think that I enjoy DS just a little more.  (I will say, however, that as a ballmarker collector, my DS coin looks awful in comparison to almost all of my favorites.) 


They're just far enough that I wouldn't try to play them both in a single day, but I'd go a two-day 36 hole break to enjoy them both.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Chris DeToro on May 31, 2016, 02:43:42 PM
My wife's from GR and I've played quite a bit around the area, but just played Diamond Springs for the first time this spring.  Really solid golf course.  I played it in mediocre conditions--it was cool and rainy, but played somewhat firm still.  I thought the conditions were fine but did prevent some of the ground game.  Still a great course, lots of fun and I too like how the tees flow to the fairways


I think I met the same dog when I was there too!
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JJShanley on May 31, 2016, 02:50:17 PM
I think I met the same dog when I was there too!


Pebble might be the best dog I've met in a golf setting.  He was the only thing having a harder time than me in the heat that day.
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Chris DeToro on June 01, 2016, 08:24:00 AM
I'd never heard much about Kaufman before now.  I'll have to put it on my GR list. 
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JLahrman on January 11, 2022, 04:55:27 PM
Looks like the NLU guys hit up Grand Rapids on their Michigan Tourist Sauce trip and kept it all public, playing a few of the courses mentioned here:


Tourist Sauce (Michigan): Episode 3, "Grand Rapids" - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrrQNA5X00I&t=422s)


Just curious, do we know how many GCA guys live in Grand Rapids?

Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: JLahrman on June 21, 2022, 12:01:41 PM
Looks like the NLU guys hit up Grand Rapids on their Michigan Tourist Sauce trip and kept it all public, playing a few of the courses mentioned here:


Tourist Sauce (Michigan): Episode 3, "Grand Rapids" - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrrQNA5X00I&t=422s)


Just curious, do we know how many GCA guys live in Grand Rapids?


Update: I know one GCAer in Grand Rapids - ME. Just moved here from Austin, where I was playing basically no golf. Hoping to get out on some of the local courses, wondering if anyone else is around. Ready to get Smitten with the Mitten!
Title: Re: Grand Rapids Public Options?
Post by: Peter Pallotta on June 21, 2022, 12:03:58 PM
JL --
Well, you have no less than industry professional and all round good guy and man about town Joe Hancock as your neighbour!