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Title: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: BCowan on June 14, 2015, 01:35:04 PM
   I wanted to compile a List of Courses in the US that have removed trees in an attempt to improve growing conditions and restore tree placement to a Courses original design intent.  It doesn't matter if a storm caused 1,000 trees to have been uprooted or if a company was hired to remove trees.  Many courses that have lost trees due to storms, often plant more trees than lost in a storm.  So rewarding restraint is justified.  Same goes for diseased trees that were not originally in the design or were causing poor Turf conditions.  I would like to break Tree removal down to 3 levels.  Low, Medium, and High (Sawdust award).  If you could please post or PM me with courses that have done removal I would appreciate it, please include number of trees that were removed.  Hopefully this list will provide others with a reference to help sell/promote tree removal to their board/club.

Low- (50-249)

Med- (250-1499)

High- (1500+) Sawdust Standard

Alabama

Alaska

Arizona
Desert Forest (Low)- 100 trees

Arkansas

California
Cal Club- (High)- 1,500 trees
Olympic Club (Lake Course)-(Med)-?
Pasatiempo GC- 1,000?
Wilshire CC (Med)- 360 trees

Colorado
Cherry Hills - (low to mid)-  Ongoing
Denver Country Club- (Low-Med)- ?

Connecticut
Golf Club of Avon- (High)~ 10,000 (Paul Bunyan Award)
Waterbury- ?
Yale-?

Delaware

Florida

Georgia

Hawaii
Waialae CC (low)- 239

Idaho
Canyon Springs (low)~200? Trees

Illinois
Beverly CC- (Med)- 700 Trees
Bryn Mawr, IL - (Med)~1300
CC of Peoria (Med) ~ 1,000 trees
Chicago Golf Club- (Low)-?
Deer Park CC- (Low)- 200 trees, and more to go.
Flossmoor- (High)~ 1,500 trees
Glen View Club- (Med)- 600 Trees
Medinah #1 - (mid)- 800 trees?
Medinah #3 - (high)-?
Old Elm, IL - (Med)- 750-1000
Olympia Fields North- (Med)~ 900 trees
Olympia Fields South- (Med)~  250??? trees
Onwentsia Club, IL - (Med)- 800 trees
Ravisloe CC- ?
Shoreacres- (Med)- 1000 Trees

Indiana
Broadmoor CC (Low)- 140 trees over 2 year period
Highland G&CC- (Med)- 500-600 trees
South Bend CC- (Med)- 500 trees, with more to come down
Victoria National- (High)- 4,000 trees

Iowa
Davenport C.C. - (Med)-  500+ Trees

Kansas

Kentucky

Louisiana
Metairie C.C. - (Med)- 400 Trees

Maine

Maryland
Bethesda Country Club- (low)- 140 Trees

Massachusetts

Berkshire Hills CC- (Low)- 70 Trees
Essex CC (high) 15,000  (Sawdust hero)
 Salem CC (low)- 200 Trees
Southampton Country Club- (High) ~ 3,000 Trees
Taconic Golf Club- (High)- 2,000+ Trees
Tedesco- (Med)- 400 Trees
Vesper CC- (High)- 1,500 Trees

Michigan
Birmingham CC- (Med)- 1000+
Bloomfield Hills- (Med)-900
Battle Creek CC- (high)~ 2,800 Trees
Dunes Club- (Med)~ 400 Trees
Meadowbrook- (Low)~250? Trees
Oakland Hills (North)- (Low)-?
Oakland Hills (South)- ?
Orchard Lake CC- (High)- 1500 Trees
Red Run GC- (low)- 100 Trees
University of Michigan (Low)- ?

Minnesota
Midland Hills CC- (Med) ~ 500 trees
Minikahda Club- (Med)~ 700+ Trees
Town G&CC- (Low)- 215 trees, with 100 more to go.

Mississippi

Missouri

Montana

Nebraska

Nevada

New Hampshire

New Jersey
Montclair Golf Club- (Med)- 1,000

New Mexico

New York
Bethpage (Black)- (High)- 12,500
CC of Buffalo- (Med)- around 750 trees
Garden City Golf Club, NY - (high)-?
NGLA- ?
Sleepy Hollow- ?
Southampton CC- (High)- 3,000 trees

North Carolina
Carolina Golf Club- (Med)- ?


North Dakota

Ohio
Brookside CC- (High)- 3,000-5,000
Inverness- Med-high
Kirtland C.C. - (Med)-  500 Trees
Springfield CC- (Med)- 600-800
Sylvania CC- Low-Med

Oklahoma

Oregon
Astoria CC- (Med)-?
Waverley- (Med)- 800 Trees

Pennsylvania
Chester Valley - (Med)- 300+ trees
Concord - (Med)~ 1300 Trees
Downingtown CC- ?
Green Valley C.C. - (Med)~ 400+ Trees
Lancaster C.C. - (Med)~ 500+ Trees
Longue Vue Club - (Med) 300-400 Trees
Manufacturer's Golf & C.C. - (Med)- 1,000+ Trees
Northampton C.C. - (Med)- 400+ Trees
Oakmont CC- ?, Revolutionaries 
Philadelphia C.C. - (Med)- 1,000+ Trees
Philly Cricket Club (Wissahickon)- (High)~1500+
Rolling Green G.C. - (Med)- 750+ Trees

Rhode Island
Potowomut Golf Club- (High)- 2,500 Trees

South Carolina

South Dakota

Tennessee
Holston Hills CC - (high)-?

Texas
Lakewood- (Low)- less than 100
Ross Rogers - Mustang Course, TX - (mid)- 500 trees
Royal Oaks- (Low)- 250

Utah

Vermont

Virginia

Washington
Fircrest- (Med)- 400 trees
Glendale- (Med)- 380 trees
Inglewood- (Med)- 300 trees
Oakbrook Golf Club, WA - (mid)- 450 Trees
Tacoma Golf Club- (Med)-510

West Virginia

Wisconsin
Blue Mound, WI - (high)-?
Lawsonia- ?

Wyoming



 
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Jason Way on June 14, 2015, 01:40:37 PM
Essex County, MA - 15,000
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Jason Way on June 14, 2015, 02:40:58 PM
Bryn Mawr, IL - ~1300
Old Elm, IL - 750-1000

FYI, I have a page on my blog to the subject with before-and-after photos for more additions (although I don't have all the numbers). 

http://geekedongolf.com/2015/01/05/the-sweet-sound-of-chainsaws/

I'll keep looking for you.

J
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: BHoover on June 14, 2015, 06:38:24 PM
Brookside in Ohio took down at least 3-5 thousand. Maybe more.

Springfield CC has removed about 700-800.

Just about every course in Ohio (and many other states) have lost hundreds-thousands of ash trees. Presumably you are excluding this?
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Tom_Doak on June 14, 2015, 06:40:41 PM
Ben:

This is going to be a long list.  Some personal experience, off the top of my head:

Medinah #1 - (mid) 800 trees?
Medinah #3 - (high)
Onwentsia Club, IL - (high) 800 trees
Blue Mound, WI - (high)
Chicago Golf Club, IL - (low) removed planted backgrounds behind many greens
Garden City Golf Club, NY - (high)
Cherry Hills, CO - (low to mid)  still working on it
Holston Hills, TN - (high)


Another extensive tree program that resulted in vast improvement was at Waverly in Oregon.  Gil Hanse took down a ton of trees there and opened up some great views across the property.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: JStewart on June 14, 2015, 09:29:05 PM
Oakland Hills removed a fair amount on the South course. Sorry, I don't have a number but I'd wager in the "medium" range. The North course saw some tree removal as well (net loss of about 50 trees, I believe). And I know nearby Birmingham CC removed some as well (probably in the "low" range).
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Keith Phillips on June 14, 2015, 09:43:34 PM
Montclair Golf Club (NJ) - ~1,000 over past decade

Jason, 15,000 really?  Knowing how much we spent to remove our 1,000 I would guess that 15,000 would bankrupt most clubs!
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: David_Tepper on June 14, 2015, 09:54:06 PM
The Lake Course at the Olympic Club has undergone substantial tree removal over the past 10-15 years. I would love to see a lot more tree taken out, but I don't know if that will happen.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Jason Way on June 14, 2015, 09:56:03 PM
Montclair Golf Club (NJ) - ~1,000 over past decade

Jason, 15,000 really?  Knowing how much we spent to remove our 1,000 I would guess that 15,000 would bankrupt most clubs!

So the Super said.  Uncovering the rocky hill in the middle of the back nine must have been an enormous undertaking, and the front nine is almost entirely treeless.  Regardless of the number, the story of the renewal of that course is fantastic - right up there with what has happened at Philly Cricket (which is another one to add to this list).  

I'd also add Lawsonia Links to the list.  That course is almost entirely treeless now too.  Perhaps Dan Moore or Jim Nagle could share the number?
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: John Kavanaugh on June 14, 2015, 09:59:11 PM
Victoria National. 4000+ We haven't turned on the fans yet this year. God do I love our super.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Nigel Islam on June 14, 2015, 11:28:16 PM
Victoria National. 4000+ We haven't turned on the fans yet this year. God do I love our super.

Really? Wow I knew the place looked different from when I first played it.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Jim Nugent on June 15, 2015, 12:02:27 AM
I think Yale and NGLA both took down lots of trees. 
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: mike_beene on June 15, 2015, 12:13:29 AM
Royal Oaks in Dallas has removed at least 200 and probably 250. The course is still wooded but is dramatically improved in look,playability and airflow. The City of Dallas is very restrictive on the removal of healthy trees and if the tree is deemed healthy a new one must be planted the r a fine payed. Lakewood in Dallas removed I am guessing less than 100 trees from the interior of the course but in a number of cases a good tree was saved by moving it to the perimeter
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: BCowan on June 16, 2015, 12:25:38 AM
Thanks to all that posted.  Hope there are more to come
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Phil Young on June 16, 2015, 08:10:21 AM
Ben,

Bethpage removed slightly less than 10,000 trees prior to the 2002 Open and then another 2,500 plus prior to the 2009 Open on the Black course alone.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Kevin Stark on June 16, 2015, 10:19:12 AM
Highland Golf and Country Club, Indianapolis, IN. Medium -- we will be around 500-600 when we are complete.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Brian Joines on June 16, 2015, 10:25:47 AM
South Bend CC in Indiana has removed 500+ trees over the past 4 years. More are planned to go in the future, as well.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: PCCraig on June 16, 2015, 10:36:37 AM
Jason,

You could add Town & Country Club, St. Paul in Minnesota to the list with a "low" listing. I don't know the exact number, but T&C has probably removed over 200 trees in the recent past. Happy to report that just this past week another 15 or so evergreens have been removed around the 18th tee, making for a nice improvement. I think there are another 100 or so Ash and Elm (all in decline/dead/or dying) that are scheduled to be removed (when exactly I don't know).

A few hundred trees might not seem like a lot compared to some of the numbers above, but our course sits on about 90 acres, so it is a little more noticeable.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Stephen Pellegrino on June 16, 2015, 12:29:44 PM
Wianno Club - Osterville, MA - High Tree Removal

My best guess is that we've taken down just over 1,500 trees, and that we are about 70% done. I'd expect us to tackle the remaining 30% over the next several years. Tree removal began in 2009/10 under the guidance of Gil Hanse,  and accelerated with the hiring of a new superintendent in early 2014 (who was previously the superintendent at Whitinsville).
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: astavrides on June 16, 2015, 12:56:28 PM
If I get around to it, I'll try to estimate the climate impact of all this tree removal. It would be good if these courses had a plan to plant at least an equivalent number of trees somewhere else.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Chris Hans on June 16, 2015, 12:56:38 PM
Vesper CC in Mass- 1,500+ from 07-10 with I'm sure many more since.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Andy Treen on June 16, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Taconic Golf Club - Williamstown, MA


Since the 2009 Gil Hanse renovation 2000+ trees have been removed.


- Andy
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Aaron McMaster on June 16, 2015, 01:35:36 PM
If I get around to it, I'll try to estimate the climate impact of all this tree removal. It would be good if these courses had a plan to plant at least an equivalent number of trees somewhere else.


Just curious....what are your qualitfications for making an estimate that I would take seriously?
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Andrew Buck on June 16, 2015, 03:57:04 PM
Bryn Mawr, IL - ~1300
Old Elm, IL - 750-1000

FYI, I have a page on my blog to the subject with before-and-after photos for more additions (although I don't have all the numbers). 

http://geekedongolf.com/2015/01/05/the-sweet-sound-of-chainsaws/ (http://geekedongolf.com/2015/01/05/the-sweet-sound-of-chainsaws/)

I'll keep looking for you.

J

Great link.  From that site you can add 500 for CC of Peoria, and I'll add 200 (and counting) at Deer Park CC in Oglesby, IL. 

I played CC of Peoria about 18 months ago for the first time in 16 years (it was one of our Home courses in college) and it was amazing the difference the 500 trees made there.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Ryan Taylor on June 16, 2015, 04:18:00 PM
If I get around to it, I'll try to estimate the climate impact of all this tree removal. It would be good if these courses had a plan to plant at least an equivalent number of trees somewhere else.

Wouldn't the climate impact be somewhat offset by the improvement in turf grass quality? (assuming turf improves with tree removal) Healthy turf has many environmental benefits - erosion control, stabilization (dust), run-off reduction, cooling, etc.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Joel_Stewart on June 16, 2015, 04:23:13 PM
Olympic did not take out 1500 trees unless you count bushes and weeds and some trees on the Ocean course.  I would put it more in the medium count.


Cal Club took out over 1500 trees over a long period of time.



Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Andrew Buck on June 16, 2015, 04:26:03 PM
If I get around to it, I'll try to estimate the climate impact of all this tree removal. It would be good if these courses had a plan to plant at least an equivalent number of trees somewhere else.

Wouldn't the climate impact be somewhat offset by the improvement in turf grass quality? (assuming turf improves with tree removal) Healthy turf has many environmental benefits - erosion control, stabilization (dust), run-off reduction, cooling, etc.

I also suspect that many of the courses that remove trees are also increasing native areas, which have a favorable impact on the environment.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Aaron Marks on June 16, 2015, 04:59:04 PM
In 2002 Ravisloe CC (Illinois) removed trees but I couldn't give you a number.  Probably in the 200-500 group though? 
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: astavrides on June 16, 2015, 09:53:58 PM
If I get around to it, I'll try to estimate the climate impact of all this tree removal. It would be good if these courses had a plan to plant at least an equivalent number of trees somewhere else.


Just curious....what are your qualitfications for making an estimate that I would take seriously?


PhD in Physical Chemistry. I would do my google research and show my work.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: astavrides on June 16, 2015, 10:00:35 PM
If I get around to it, I'll try to estimate the climate impact of all this tree removal. It would be good if these courses had a plan to plant at least an equivalent number of trees somewhere else.

Wouldn't the climate impact be somewhat offset by the improvement in turf grass quality? (assuming turf improves with tree removal) Healthy turf has many environmental benefits - erosion control, stabilization (dust), run-off reduction, cooling, etc.

I also suspect that many of the courses that remove trees are also increasing native areas, which have a favorable impact on the environment.


I doubt turf grass captures anywhere near the carbon of a tree. More lush turf grass might capture more carbon than more sparse turf grass, but it might also need more frequent cutting meaning more watering and more gasoline.


As far as native areas, I'm not sure I see a correlation between tree removal and increased native areas.


But those are reasonable thoughts and I could be wrong and I would be interested to hear more evidence or anecdotes.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Trey Kemp on June 17, 2015, 11:04:55 AM
Ross Rogers - Mustang Course, TX - (mid) 500
Oakbrook Golf Club, WA - (mid) 450
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Doug_Nickels on June 17, 2015, 12:07:31 PM
Joel,
The majority of trees at the Cal Club were removed  in 1996/97 during a substantial logging operation. 
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Doug Wright on June 17, 2015, 12:36:36 PM
Ben,
Denver Country Club has removed a lot of trees the past couple of years in conjunction with Gil Hanse's work. Not sure how many, probably more "quality than quantity" as many of the trees were large iconic trees that were decades old. Let's say "medium" quantity. All for the better IMO...   
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Andrew Buck on June 17, 2015, 12:59:41 PM



As far as native areas, I'm not sure I see a correlation between tree removal and increased native areas.



My assertion may be anecdotal, but from my playing days in the 80's and early 90s, I don't recall any native areas on golf courses.  Now, I see them much more frequently and often in conjunction with courses that are also moving trees.  Maybe their is an Oakmont member that can opine, but since I view Oakmont as the ringleader for tree clearing, I'd be curious to know if the approximately 30 acres of native areas you can see on an aerial today existed in the 1980's when trees were providing corridors for holes? 
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: PGertner on June 17, 2015, 01:05:37 PM
Potowomut Golf Club
East Greenwich, Rhode Island


2500 removals since 2003 between 2 Supers. 100 acre property. Course was wildly overgrown. 95% of takedowns were done in house by grounds staff. Gave away wood and wood chips, occasionally paid to have pine logs hauled away. Stumps were ground and filled in house. For the amount of work done, we saved the club many thousands of $$, and kept the club viable during extremely challenging financial years in economically depressed Rhode Island among heady competition.


In 2015, members enjoy an much more open golf course because of exposed vistas with greatly improved turfgrass.


Patrick Gertner
Potowomut Golf Club 
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Dave Givnish on June 17, 2015, 01:22:13 PM
Oakmont - 600 is what I remember hearing from a couple of members
Desert Forest - around 100
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: JNagle on June 17, 2015, 01:23:58 PM

(PA) - Some of these may be lowManufacturer's Golf & C.C.  - 1,000+
Philadelphia C.C. - 1,000 +
Rolling Green G.C. - 750 +
Lancaster C.C. - 500 +
Northampton C.C. - 400 +
Green Valley C.C. - 400 +
Longue Vue Club - 300 - 400
Chester Valley - 300 +
Concord - 800 +


(NY) - CC of Buffalo +/- 750


(OH) - Kirtland C.C. - +/- 500


(IA) - Davenport C.C. - 500 +


(LA) - Metairie C.C. - +/- 400




Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: CBunge on June 17, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
Sleepy Hollow C.C. in NY with 2007 restoration by Gil Hanse - low. Not too many trees lining the fairways to begin with, but after restoration there are few trees to worry about on many of the holes (besides 8-14).
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: astavrides on June 17, 2015, 04:54:17 PM



As far as native areas, I'm not sure I see a correlation between tree removal and increased native areas.



My assertion may be anecdotal, but from my playing days in the 80's and early 90s, I don't recall any native areas on golf courses.  Now, I see them much more frequently and often in conjunction with courses that are also moving trees.  Maybe their is an Oakmont member that can opine, but since I view Oakmont as the ringleader for tree clearing, I'd be curious to know if the approximately 30 acres of native areas you can see on an aerial today existed in the 1980's when trees were providing corridors for holes?

Are the courses making native areas in the same areas of the course that once had trees? Can't you still have a native area in an area that still has trees? They may be temporally correlated but have no causal relationship. On the other hand, it could be related in that both trends give the courses a certain look that has grown in popularity.
Don't get me wrong, I do think removing trees often makes a better and more fun golf course. Not sure I would say the same thing about the addition of native areas.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Stewart Abramson on June 17, 2015, 11:09:43 PM
Sleepy Hollow
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: BCowan on June 17, 2015, 11:12:33 PM
Potowomut Golf Club
East Greenwich, Rhode Island


2500 removals since 2003 between 2 Supers. 100 acre property. Course was wildly overgrown. 95% of takedowns were done in house by grounds staff. Gave away wood and wood chips, occasionally paid to have pine logs hauled away. Stumps were ground and filled in house. For the amount of work done, we saved the club many thousands of $$, and kept the club viable during extremely challenging financial years in economically depressed Rhode Island among heady competition.


In 2015, members enjoy an open because of many exposed vistas with greatly improved turfgrass.


Patrick Gertner
Potowomut Golf Club

Patrick,

   Great story.  Thanks for posting.

-Ben
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Jason Way on June 18, 2015, 01:14:26 AM
I was talking to George Waters today about this subject. I'm pretty sure that he said that Pasatiempo in CA took out 1000+.


Can any of the other NorCal guys confirm?
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: DJohnson on June 18, 2015, 12:32:29 PM
Ben:

This is going to be a long list.  Some personal experience, off the top of my head:

Medinah #1 - (mid) 800 trees?
Medinah #3 - (high)
Onwentsia Club, IL - (high) 800 trees
Blue Mound, WI - (high)
Chicago Golf Club, IL - (low) removed planted backgrounds behind many greens
Garden City Golf Club, NY - (high)
Cherry Hills, CO - (low to mid)  still working on it
Holston Hills, TN - (high)


Another extensive tree program that resulted in vast improvement was at Waverly in Oregon.  Gil Hanse took down a ton of trees there and opened up some great views across the property.

Blue Mound took out tons.  I don't know how many and doubt it would be 1500 (83 per hole), but it ranks high in terms of changing the face of the course from mostly all tree lined fairways to a more airy feel to the course.

Merrill Hills, which was known for its trees and green complexes, went under the knife as well.  Before 2013, the reputation was penal tree lined fairways.  You could always find your ball underneath oaks, but escape was limited.  I saw many players attempt glory recovery shots only to watch their ball pinballing back through the trees. 

The cutting began the very day the new owner closed on the purchase of the course in 2013.  I was playing that day, and immediately noticed a crew of 8-10, armed with chainsaws and removal trucks, was hard at work.  Banks of thick pine trees that backed some of the greens were the first to go.  A shot that was 30 feet off the greens on a few holes surrounded by those pines was an immediate penalty stroke at best.  Next to go were probably every other of the oaks that lined most fairways.  The cutting continues to this day, with trees being removed for health reasons or for strategic reasons.  There are still plenty of trees lining the fairways, but now instead of punching out, low shaped recovery shots are possible.

Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Terry Lavin on June 18, 2015, 12:52:03 PM
From Chicagoland (and SW Michigan), from my personal experience:
 
Beverly CC: 700
Olympia Fields North: 900
Olympia Fields South: 250???
Flossmoor: 1500
Dunes Club: 400
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Dan Herrmann on June 18, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
Berkshire in Reading, PA took out a lot of trees and there are more left to go.

French Creek lost one of our 2 trees :)
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Jeff Johnson on June 19, 2015, 03:04:21 PM
The Minikahda Club 700+
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: astavrides on July 01, 2015, 10:11:32 AM
Climate impact of tree removal:
(very rough and fast calculation--not ready for publication)



executive summary:
removal of 660 trees (rough average per course tree removal of courses mentioned in this thread) is the equivalent of adding 20 cars to the road for one year. removal of 100,000 trees (rough total for all courses mentioned in this thread) is the equivalent of adding 30,000 cars to the road for one year (~0.01% of all the cars registered in the US), which is roughly equivalent to the yearly emissions of the Turks and Caicos islands.


details:
climate impact is often measured in equivalent amount of cars added to the road.
Average car/light truck mileage in US in 2011: 21.4mpg
average number of miles driven per year in US in 2011: 11, 318
number of cars registered in US in 2012: 254 million
% of US emissions due to cars and trucks: 20%
% of US emissions compared to world emissions: 16%
% of world emissions due to US cars and trucks: 3%
% of world emissions due to tree removal on US golf courses mentioned in this thread: (0.0003%)
equivalent emissions of tree removal in this calculation takes into account only loss of uptake of CO2 by the trees, not the emissions due to the actual cutting down and hauling away of the trees


sources:
http://www.carbonify.com/carbon-calculator.htm (http://www.carbonify.com/carbon-calculator.htm)
http://www.epa.gov/cleanenergy/energy-resources/refs.html (http://www.epa.gov/cleanenergy/energy-resources/refs.html)
various wikipedia sites for yearly emissions by country, etc.

Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Jim Franklin on July 01, 2015, 10:23:43 AM
Five Farms East removed a fair number of trees and it looks so much better. Not sure the total number, but will find out.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: PCCraig on July 01, 2015, 10:24:11 AM
Climate impact of tree removal:
(very rough and fast calculation--not ready for publication)



executive summary:
removal of 660 trees (rough average per course tree removal of courses mentioned in this thread) is the equivalent of adding 20 cars to the road for one year. removal of 100,000 trees (rough total for all courses mentioned in this thread) is the equivalent of adding 30,000 cars to the road for one year (~0.01% of all the cars registered in the US), which is roughly equivalent to the yearly emissions of the Turks and Caicos islands.


details:
climate impact is often measured in equivalent amount of cars added to the road.
Average car/light truck mileage in US in 2011: 21.4mpg
average number of miles driven per year in US in 2011: 11, 318
number of cars registered in US in 2012: 254 million
% of US emissions due to cars and trucks: 20%
% of US emissions compared to world emissions: 16%
% of world emissions due to US cars and trucks: 3%
% of world emissions due to tree removal on US golf courses mentioned in this thread: (0.0003%)
equivalent emissions of tree removal in this calculation takes into account only loss of uptake of CO2 by the trees, not the emissions due to the actual cutting down and hauling away of the trees


sources:
http://www.carbonify.com/carbon-calculator.htm (http://www.carbonify.com/carbon-calculator.htm)
http://www.epa.gov/cleanenergy/energy-resources/refs.html (http://www.epa.gov/cleanenergy/energy-resources/refs.html)
various wikipedia sites for yearly emissions by country, etc.


Ok, are you accounting for the additional grass that is taking the place of the trees removed?


http://www.unruhturf.com/pdf/2Did%20You%20Know-Trees%20%26%20Grass%20Both%20Clean%20the%20Ari.pdf (http://www.unruhturf.com/pdf/2Did%20You%20Know-Trees%20%26%20Grass%20Both%20Clean%20the%20Ari.pdf)
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: astavrides on July 01, 2015, 01:28:31 PM


Ok, are you accounting for the additional grass that is taking the place of the trees removed?


http://www.unruhturf.com/pdf/2Did%20You%20Know-Trees%20%26%20Grass%20Both%20Clean%20the%20Ari.pdf (http://www.unruhturf.com/pdf/2Did%20You%20Know-Trees%20%26%20Grass%20Both%20Clean%20the%20Ari.pdf)

I couldn't find any statistics on the  amount of carbon sequestration from turf grass or native grass compared to trees from a quick google search. If you can, I would be interested. However, if you imagine the amount of carbon sequestered long term by a tree, including the growth of the trunk, branches, and roots, the difference in green area of tree leaves vs. grass blades is probably in the noise, and the carbon sequestration of a tree dwarfs that of the grass. Keep in mind, too, that there is usually grass around the tree as well, everywhere but the trunk.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: PCCraig on July 01, 2015, 04:30:43 PM
The amount of "carbon sequestration" from trees pales in comparison to the amount of sequestration from grass, and especially algea.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: ANTHONYPIOPPI on July 01, 2015, 07:19:52 PM
Golf Club of Avon (Conn.) reportedly lost somewhere in the neighborhood of 10,000 trees to Hemlock woolly adelgid. In the last year more trees were killed by a defective pesticide.

Southampton Country Club removed, I believe, somewhere around 3,000 trees.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: BCowan on March 17, 2016, 09:21:03 PM
Since winter time is usually when tree removal takes place up North, any new ones to add to the list? 
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Ron Smith on March 18, 2016, 09:47:09 AM
Broadmoor Country Club in Indianapolis is in the process of a two year 140 tree removal program, this include removing ash trees as well as about a dozen trees to improve turf conditions.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Emile Bonfiglio on March 18, 2016, 10:31:50 PM
Oswego Lake Country Club (Egan Chandler Design) is removing 197 trees.....not without a fight.


http://portlandtribune.com/lor/48-news/286085-162533-oswego-lake-country-club-asks-for-permission-to-cut-down-197-trees- (http://portlandtribune.com/lor/48-news/286085-162533-oswego-lake-country-club-asks-for-permission-to-cut-down-197-trees-)
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Brad Treadwell on March 19, 2016, 08:34:56 PM
It is very apparent that the Pacific Northwest just doesn't get it....it is supposed to be about the golf....not the trees.  Waverley is the only one out here that has taken it seriously.  The rest of us have a long ways to go....and it is a much harder battle than it should be. 
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Chris Mavros on March 19, 2016, 10:45:40 PM
Downingtown CC in PA removed trees this offseason, but I don't know how many. 
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: RDecker on March 20, 2016, 06:09:29 AM
You can include Massachusetts' only Tillinghast course, Berkshire Hills CC on the list.  We have removed about 70 trees so far in my first year as Superintendent, and hopefully it's just the beginning.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: RDecker on March 20, 2016, 06:47:48 AM
I know Waterbury in Connecticut took down a ton of trees as well and looks great.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: astavrides on November 21, 2016, 07:30:35 AM
Tree relocation machine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKk3gXDJbSU

Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Carl Nichols on November 21, 2016, 10:23:51 AM
My home course, Bethesda Country Club, is in the middle of regrassing all of our greens with the 007 strain of bent.  That work has been much discussed with the membership (and in the area more generally).  Much less discussed is that we're also taking out about 140 trees -- not nearly enough, in my view, but still a step in the right direction.


It has been interesting to see how members who weren't behind the tree removal have responded positively once they're gone.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Brad Tufts on November 21, 2016, 11:54:43 AM
My home course Tedesco has removed roughly 300-400 trees over several years, the majority were removed two weeks ago...Ron Forse is our master plan architect.

RF also has worked in recent years at Salem CC, and they have removed at least a couple hundred as well, in prep for the 2017 US Senior Open.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Ryan Taylor on November 21, 2016, 12:28:47 PM
Red Run GC in Royal Oak, MI has or plans to remove 100 or so trees by the Spring of 2017. Consulting architect is Bruce Hepner.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Ed Brzezowski on November 21, 2016, 02:03:20 PM
Concord, Pa is at 1200 with 100 more this winter.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Dave McCollum on November 21, 2016, 07:20:08 PM
Canyon Springs, Idaho.  A few 100 every year.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Mark McKeever on November 22, 2016, 08:23:19 AM
Re: Philly Cricket


The number of trees removed that I have heard would put us in the "high" category.  I thought it was well north of 1500.


Mark
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Gary_Nelson on November 22, 2016, 08:36:12 PM
Any idea how many Meadowbrook (MI) removed in their renovation?  Hundreds is my guess, but I am curious to know the total.
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: BCowan on December 10, 2016, 12:13:48 PM
Thanks for the posts, I updated the list.  Feel free to post or PM me if you have more. 
Title: Re: Tree Removal, A Comprehensive List of Courses by State in the US
Post by: Stephen Pellegrino on December 10, 2016, 04:57:43 PM
Update: Wianno Club (MA) - approximately  5,000 and rising. This number includes not only large trees (I'm guessing 2,000) but also saplings/undergrowth (about 3,000) in areas that remain wooded.