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Title: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Sven Nilsen on January 29, 2015, 11:13:01 AM
Not sure how much there is to learn from these, but their significance in golf history is unquestionable (from the Oct. 1913 edition of Golf Magazine).

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/VardonOuimetRay%20-%20Golf%20Magazine%20Oct.%201913_zpst48webc9.png)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Ouimet%20Scorecard%20-%20Golf%20Magazine%20Oct.%201913_zpscfmnukaq.png)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Vardon%20Scorecard%20-%20Golf%20Magazine%20Oct.%201913_zpsu4reqewk.png)

(http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc435/snilsen7/Ray%20Scorecard%20-%20Golf%20Magazine%20Oct.%201913_zpsuyg0d2ak.png)
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Chris Roselle on January 29, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
Sven, I've always found the most remarkable thing about this is that Bernard Darwin was Quimet's marker for the playoff.
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Philip Hensley on January 29, 2015, 11:24:48 AM
Digging the pipe by Vardon. We need more pipe smoking on the course.
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Rich Goodale on January 29, 2015, 11:31:15 AM
Any idea who signed Ray's card?
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 29, 2015, 11:57:59 AM
Any idea who signed Ray's card?

Looks like Percy R. Pyne II, a member at Garden City and a USGA Exec. Committee member in '13,'14 & 15.

Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Dan Kelly on January 29, 2015, 12:39:40 PM
Any idea who signed Ray's card?

Looks like Percy R. Pyne II, a member at Garden City and a USGA Exec. Committee member in '13,'14 & 15.

Nice work! I knew it wasn't Percy Alliss, Percy Boomer, Percy Bysshe Shelley, Percy Kilbride or Percy Harvin -- but couldn't solve the puzzle.
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Mark McKeever on January 29, 2015, 02:28:10 PM
I know the top photo is on display at TCC in Brookline.  Are the cards there too?
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Chris Roselle on January 29, 2015, 02:46:16 PM
I know the top photo is on display at TCC in Brookline.  Are the cards there too?

Mark, I thought Quimet's card was housed at the USGA museum in Far Hills.  I might be wrong but I thought I saw it on display there last year during a Rules of Golf workshop I attended.
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 29, 2015, 03:04:32 PM
I know the top photo is on display at TCC in Brookline.  Are the cards there too?

Mark, I thought Quimet's card was housed at the USGA museum in Far Hills.  I might be wrong but I thought I saw it on display there last year during a Rules of Golf workshop I attended.

You were right.

http://www.usgamuseum.com/researchers/research_center/collections.aspx

Wonder where Ray's and Vardon's cards ended up... or if they even kept them?

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7389/15776605873_73dbec8721_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Ed Brzezowski on January 29, 2015, 03:13:16 PM
I know the top photo is on display at TCC in Brookline.  Are the cards there too?

Mark, I thought Quimet's card was housed at the USGA museum in Far Hills.  I might be wrong but I thought I saw it on display there last year during a Rules of Golf workshop I attended.

yes chris you did, still have the pic on my phone.
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Rich Goodale on January 29, 2015, 03:20:36 PM
Any idea who signed Ray's card?

Looks like Percy R. Pyne II, a member at Garden City and a USGA Exec. Committee member in '13,'14 & 15.



Many thanks, Jim.  I was wondering if the Percy involved was my grandfather who was club champion at Winchester in 1913 and wrote as badly as I type.  As it turns out, I worked for Percy Pine's son/hephew Eben the summer of 1967 at Citibank.  Sorry for the OT post, Ran.
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Jim_Kennedy on January 29, 2015, 05:47:20 PM
It appears that the USGA has all the cards:

Ouimet's most significant memorabilia resides at the USGA Museum, in Far Hills, N.J., in an exhibit entitled "America's First Golf Hero." It includes his putter and four of his irons from his1 913 victory – mid-iron, mashie, mashie-niblick and jigger; the three balls used by Ouimet, Harry Vardon and Ted Ray in the playoff; their scorecards and Ouimet's championship medal. It also houses his championship medals from the 1914 and '31 U.S. Amateurs.

His red R&A jacket hangs there, as well. Funny story about that coat."My sister had one of those portraits over her mantel piece," Barbara tells, referencing the one that hangs in her house. "One day there was a girl playing there, and she said to Les (Barbara's niece, Leslie), 'Who is that?' Les said, 'That's my grampy.' The little girl says, 'What is he, awaiter?'

"Dad would have gotten a big kick out of that."
Title: Re: Ouimet, Vardon and Ray Scorecards
Post by: Mark McKeever on January 30, 2015, 02:59:15 PM
It appears that the USGA has all the cards:

Ouimet's most significant memorabilia resides at the USGA Museum, in Far Hills, N.J., in an exhibit entitled "America's First Golf Hero." It includes his putter and four of his irons from his1 913 victory – mid-iron, mashie, mashie-niblick and jigger; the three balls used by Ouimet, Harry Vardon and Ted Ray in the playoff; their scorecards and Ouimet's championship medal. It also houses his championship medals from the 1914 and '31 U.S. Amateurs.

His red R&A jacket hangs there, as well. Funny story about that coat."My sister had one of those portraits over her mantel piece," Barbara tells, referencing the one that hangs in her house. "One day there was a girl playing there, and she said to Les (Barbara's niece, Leslie), 'Who is that?' Les said, 'That's my grampy.' The little girl says, 'What is he, awaiter?'

"Dad would have gotten a big kick out of that."


Thanks, that makes sense I didn't see them there!   :)