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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: Bob_Garvelink on March 15, 2013, 08:51:49 PM
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Hey Gang,
What are some things that bug you? I love the game of golf and its my main hobby but there are a few things that get under my skin.
5. Guys who smack the dirt off their shoes in the parking lot.....who is supposed to clean that mess up?
4. A stale hotdog bun.....eating stale bread reminds me of eating a bad piece of cheese. I expect nothing but the best when dealing with both!
3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
2. The golfer who yells "fuck" every other word. Lets keep it classy gents ;D
1. The "pervert" golfer in your group who goes a little over bored when flirting with the cart girl. She is so young she could be his daughter :-[
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All this yelling and loud talk during a round.
Guys who can't take two or three clubs with them to their ball to get ready to hit (cart golf) and have to wait for you to drive over to them to pull a club. Reminds me of little kid soccer where the pack is always huddled around the ball.
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Lightning
Flash Floods
Darkness
Shanks
Non-repaired ball marks on the green
That's about it.
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slow play
slow play
slow play
slow play
a golf course staff that won't address slow play
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Guys who talk while you're hitting and are oblivious that it's bad etiquette
Guys who wait until it's their turn to hit to think about club selection, practice swings, caddie discussions etc.
Guys who continue to pound ball after ball deep into the rough with a Driver when the smart play is hybrid or fairway metal and expect you to continue to hunt all over creation for their ball.
Guys who you don't want to even play a $1 dollar nassau with because they're not gracious winners, they're sore losers and cheap.
Guys who insist on getting every yardage exact when they're happy just to make solid contact.
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slow play
slow play
slow play
slow play
a golf course staff that won't address slow play
ditto. This is the only thing that has made me consider quitting my favorite sport/hobby. I don't even go,on the course if I think it's gong to be over 4 hours. Golf should never ever take that long.
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I have to admit to a few of these and feel like I should rationalize the poor behavior.
5. Guys who smack the dirt off their shoes in the parking lot.....who is supposed to clean that mess up?
3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
2. The golfer who yells "fuck" every other word. Lets keep it classy gents ;D
I guess I figured the grass and dirt on the bottom of my shoes will blow away just like it would if it slowly fell off when walking. I'll stop this practice now. Tipping policies on who to tip and when have been discussed frequently and I admit it's still something I feel uncomfortable with. When I worked in a cart barn my experience was the guys working to get the tips by picking people up at their cars or cleaning clubs were the guys who weren't doing their real job - cleaning and moving carts around so they were clean and fully charged when they needed to go out. I have cut back with cussing on the golf course. It's the only place I cuss and it used to be a problem, but essentially stopped when my wife started to occasionally play with me.
Shanks
I get the shanks 1-2x per year. Usually occurs a few days into a golf binge right when I think my game is coming back.
Guys who continue to pound ball after ball deep into the rough with a Driver when the smart play is hybrid or fairway metal and expect you to continue to hunt all over creation for their ball.
I can distinctly remember a tournament round on a course I hadn't played before. We get to my 6th hole and I had just birdied the 5th. The hole had junk between the drive and approach. I hit driver into the junk. I fully admit I searched way too long for the ball before walking back to the tee.
Here's my list.
1) The golfer who drives his cart past the "no carts beyond this point sign" or off the path on par 3's.
2) Golfers who make no attempt to repair ball marks.
3) The golfer who insists on playing from the back tees and then proceeds to score worse than the rest of the group playing tees in front.
4) Lost balls in the rough.
5) Rounds of golf that take more than 4.5 hours (should be quicker but doesn't really upset me until we get to this point).
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5. A member of the group who is an "announcer." He must narrate the entire conduct of your golf shot and potentially what it means to your day, EX: (Shot is hit...) "Oh that's going to be close...no its OK...wait, it hit that little mound... I think it went over the cart path...that's hazard over there, so maybe you can play it...you can find it at least...even if you can't, you can drop, it's lateral; it'll still be an easy bogey, maybe you can still get your par...do you get a shot on this hole...what are you...an 11 HCP?,,,no you don't ge ta shot here, this is the 9th handicap hole...is it my turn...whaddya everybody make on the last.
4. Anybody - especially in your group or even just around the 1st tee in the group(s) ahead of you - who shot in the 70s, "just last week." You'll be bound to his conundrum all day - "this isn't like me" as he furiously tries to remember all the Pelz, Ledbetter, Breed and GD tips he inhaled to make him a "70s" shooter...When it all collapses by the 15th and he's assured of 90 or more...he "was happy to make three pars, swinging as I have been recently." Grrrrrr.
3. "The extra shot man" - my best friend has this disease in spades, this affliction that has darkened all our souls at some early point. But those like my buddy cannot help firing a ball from his pocket to the turf and quickly attempting to properly execute the shot he just fucked up - most often around greensides, and most often accompanied by the phrase. "Hold on this doesn't count; I just want to see something..." (I often reply, "yeah - loss of hole" or " a two shot penalty.") My friend is so stubbornly attached to this habit that one time he duff-plunked his live ball into a fronting green hazard and then with the second, hit it marginally better but still fell in the drink. His commentary? "OK I've got it now."
2. Ballmarks...
1. Cellphones/I-phones...even if (especially if) they are permitted by the venue.
cheers
vk
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I can put up with a lot of shit, but here is my list:
5. Being rude to the staff/caddies (keep it classy)
4. Playing partners who regularly cancel on you at the last minute (especially if it's a lame excuse like bad weather)
3. Slow play
2. Being too lazy to replace the strip steak of a divot you just took out of the fairway
1. Being too lazy to fix a ball mark (or not knowing how to fix it properly)
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1) getting dumped at the last minute for an invite for a better game at a better course
2) people rude to the staff or independent contractor caddies
3) members that complain about not getting a good caddies for the member guest but carry their own when rules permit
4) people that actually play stroke and distance rules and walk back to the tee
5) golfers that complain the downhill putts are too fast and uphill putts are too slow
6) tees littered with unbroken tees, I know "this is a rich person's problem" only at found at private clubs
7) tiny lockers, either give me a full size locker or give me a bench and a hook
8) unaccompanied guests holding up the course or not following the rules
9) when a member who sponsored a guy he barely knew, later complains about the guys behavior
10) over edged bunkers
11) the "have you ever played xyz?" guy.
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If there were 5 things I would quit. mandatory carts and slow play are it
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Guys who hit bad shots and complain out loud, as if anybody else cares! ;D
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Hot humid days.
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Yardage geeks (laser and or gps)
Plumb bobbers
Looking and the putt from more than one side
Excessive looking for a lost ball
Someone who is never ready to play when it is their turn
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slow play
slow play
slow play
slow play
a golf course staff that won't address slow play
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Slow play and poor etiquette. For the most part I can ignore other stuff, I guess I just have thicker skin than most.
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5. Guys who smack the dirt off their shoes in the parking lot.....who is supposed to clean that mess up?
Patrick Mucci? Seriously, it's dirt and you are outside. Shall we vacuum the sand off the green, too?
4. A stale hotdog bun.....eating stale bread reminds me of eating a bad piece of $&@?. I expect nothing but the best when dealing with both!
Agree. However, if it bugs you enough, you should just return it and ask "really?"
3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
Agree. Order less and tip more.
2. The golfer who yells "fuck" every other word. Lets keep it classy gents ;D
That would be f-ing me, amigo.
1. The "pervert" golfer in your group who goes a little over bored when flirting with the cart girl. She is so young she could be his daughter :-[
Over bored? That's what got him there in the first place. Overboard is much worse.
My five?
UNO: Illogical and endemic slow play. Slow play can happen and be remedied within 1.5 holes. I dislike the golfers who all help the guy hunt for his ball (hit a provisional or take a drop, play cheaper balls and move on.) However, given all the conservatives on this site, I'm sure that no one is down with more government, errrr, administrative, errr, pro shop interference.
DOS: Rub of the green. Too much like real life for me. I get it and accept it, yet I seem to only recall the bad bounces. The good ones were the result of excellent reconnaissance and execution on my part.
TRES: Why can't we fix spike marks? A ball mark is the result of another's good shot, so we fix those. Fine. Spike marks are the result of someone's careless misstep, so we are penalized for a burro's selfishness? Why, I ask again?
CUATRO: Pro shops that won't sell a single logo ball, but instead force you to purchase the sleeve. First, I'm not going to play it, I'm going to put it on a shelf, in a jar, so I don't need three. Second, you must really think a lot of yourself if you need to hustle your clients for $8 to $10 of golf balls. This only happened once and I casually said "Too bad, I would have mentioned the fine logo in the articles I'm writing" and turned away. The chappie changed his tune immediately, but I waved him off and kept walking. Didn't write about it one way or the other, but felt a lesson was in order that day. This was in my early days of writing, before I understood "the code."
CINCO: Golfers that wait to hit in par five fairways or short par fours, dreaming of eagle putts.
SEIS: Sinkholes...
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1. Cell phone guy
2. Grain guy. The guy who talks about grain on every putt even on brand new ultradwarf that is putting perfectly.
3. I'm the only one here guy....dude if you walk in front of me one more time I'm going to laser a 3 iron at your cranium.
4. Bad break guy....whines so much that other players join in with him after every shot..."wow, just another bad break" becomes the chorus.
5. Playing a wet golf course during dry weather...I know turfgrass needs water, but it's not the only thing it needs.
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1. Cell phone guy
Can you be cell phone guy if you are selective about your usage?
2. Grain guy. The guy who talks about grain on every putt even on brand new ultradwarf that is putting perfectly.
Thought you meant grain alcohol for a second...
3. I'm the only one here guy....dude if you walk in front of me one more time I'm going to laser a 3 iron at your cranium.
first thing we teach the girls and guys on our high school teams...back off the shot, shoot them a look the first time, discuss the issue the second and always notify the coach.
4. Bad break guy....whines so much that other players join in with him after every shot..."wow, just another bad break" becomes the chorus.
ha ha ha ha ha...going to use this.
5. Playing a wet golf course during dry weather...I know turfgrass needs water, but it's not the only thing it needs.
true dat, brother.
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5...Mark Pritchett, in general
4...Keith O'halloran holing out from 130 yards while playing 13 at The 'mont his first time.
3...Hitting the ball "too good" constantly
2...Equipment that isn't up to speed with the high quality of my game
1...Wade Schueneman's short game touch!!! >:( >:(
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5...Mark Pritchett, in general
4...Keith O'halloran holing out from 130 yards while playing 13 at The 'mont his first time.
3...Hitting the ball "too good" constantly
2...Equipment that isn't up to speed with the high quality of my game
1...Wade Schueneman's short game touch!!! >:( >:(
Glad to know it's not related to just "on the course".
Looks like you may have some free time on April 9th!
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Looks like you may have some free time on April 9th!
;D
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slow play
slow play
slow play
slow play
a golf course staff that won't address slow play
I could not have said it better myself!
I'm not too keen on the guy who gets overly upset with his own poor play. We are not really good enough to get mad. None of us.
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1. The slow player - I really don't have a problem with people taking a bit of time over a shot, they should just get to their ball fast and get ready whilst others are playing.
2. The club thrower - I don't care how badly you are playing, there is no excuse for throwing your toys out of the pram.
3. The competition stroke play guy - When i'm out for a late afternoon knock, i really don't want to be keeping score or playing exactly by the rules.
4. The distance obsessed guy - Stop worrying about what club i used on a par 3, just get a move on and hit your shot.
5. The blame the course guy - The course is the same for everyone, just lighten up and have fun!
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1. Slow play
2. Mobile phones
3. Constant commentary on your own game
4. Playing crap
5. Playing crap
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Some of these are after the round as well.
1) the guy that makes you ask for the money he lost. When you lose, pay up immediately.
2) If I come in the bar, and ask how your round was, do not start your answer with "I was even in three fairway..." Just say fine or crappy!
3) The guy that throws clubs
4) ball marks on greens
5) the guy who gives you helpful advice when you are in the middle of your worst and most frustrating round.
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1) Double booker-The guy that accepts 1 or more games for the same time and then bails on everyone at the last minute for the best opportunity.
2) Guys in front of you who are plumb bobbing for 8. Pick it up and go to the next tee-PLEASE!
3) Opponents that want to change the game in the middle because things are not going their way.
4) Pro Shops that only sell small tees.
5) Courses that don't tell you of a recent aerification when making a tee time over the phone or who don't post it on their website
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The expression "golfing" instead of "playing golf".
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People insisting you play for money on your first round back from total hip replacement surgery and using your unadjusted handicap from before the surgery.
Isolated courses that won't allow you to eat lunch.
People who won't host me at Pine Valley.
People who make me putt out from inside 15 feet.
Anyone playing the course I'm playing but aren't in my group.
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Isolated courses that won't allow you to eat lunch.
Frankly this sounds made up.
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1. Old worn out shoes
2. Golf bags that match items listed in #1
3. Woods without headcovers
4. Ball washers on the 1st tee.
5. Any bag with more then 3 bag tags (unless your a member of all courses...then this had the opposite effect)
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Tricky to limit it to five!
1) The Oblivious Hacker - He's either new to the game or just plain stupid. Despite requiring at least 120 shots to get round the course (and I have no problem with that, per se), like a man hogging the road, it's never even occurred to him that the pile up behind him might have something to do with him. In fact, he's never even noticed the aforementioned pile up.
2) The Arrogant "Serious" Golfer - He's been playing for years and feels this gives him carte blanche to dictate the pace of play for everyone else. Despite never making it to single digits he considers himself superior enough to take however much time he likes without making way for quicker golfers. As far as he's concerned it doesn't matter if the group behind are quicker, he's just about round the front nine in two hours and the group behind obviously just aren't taking their game seriously enough, particularly if, heaven forbid, they happen to be younger than him. Hastily amends this attitude when his failing eyesight just about manages to make out the club pro in the following group.
3) The Amateur Swing Coach - He's like a wild animal picking out the weak in the pack. Find yourself in a game with him and an unfortunate, affable high handicapper and you'll spend 18 holes trying to bite your tongue and finding a quiet moment to reassure the now confused victim that they're not actually a hopeless failure and now is not the time to be making dramatic swing changes. Your 'coach' may just have what he considers to be a trump card to play and tells you all about the course he went on in Marbella. You know, but he doesn't, that this is just code for "got sold a meaningless certificate and paid £3,000 for the privilege."
4) The Distance Junkie - Depending on your own mindset on the day, he can either be the biggest pain or an amusing playing partner. The sweet, long drive down the first suggests he may be able to play a bit and you wonder if, with twenty two shots, he's something of a bandito. The subsequent six shots to reach the dance floor confirm that twenty two might flatter him. After a few holes you wonder why he doesn't stick to a driving range, since golf for him apparently begins and ends with hitting long. The fact that he tends to play long down the wrong fairway is seemingly just a minor issue. There is always a par 3 where he will proudly announce it's "just an eight iron" for him. You proceed to strike a six iron to the heart of the green and stand back to watch the inevitable. He proceeds to hit his cleanest iron shot of the day, only to find himself ten yards short of the putting surface. He's apparently ignorant to the fact that you saw and heard the shot and utters the inevitable "didn't really get hold of that." You very gently mention that you personally find that taking a little more club and using a little less muscle gives you better rewards and, not wanting to sink into the role of Amateur Swing Coach, you leave it at that.
5) The Persistent Whinger - The only barrier between him and breaking 70 is the state the course is in. There is nothing that can't be explained away with a complaint about a bad lie (even in the rough, no less), an uneven tee, a ball apparently not running true on the green or a lack of sand in a bunker. The wind is apparently capable of serving him up unspeakable bad luck but never capable of bailing him out of a bad shot because, somehow, the wind can always shove his ball away from the green but never towards it. If none of these excuses can be thrown into the mix he'll probably remember half way round that he slipped a disc last week and is therefore not doing too badly really. When you ask if he's absolutely sure he's OK to continue he bravely declares that he'll soldier on for your sake. You explain there's really no need to worry on your account but he wouldn't dream of deserting you. He plays the next four holes in level par and the imminent call to the osteopath is a distant memory.
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The expression "golfing" instead of "playing golf".
Ah yeah, +1 to that.
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Hot humid days.
Welcome to my world! When are you coming down, August? :D
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Isolated courses that won't allow you to eat lunch.
Frankly this sounds made up.
I have never heard of this either Mark. Do you know this poster Mac Plumart? People say he is great guy but he sounds sort of whiny. ;D
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People insisting you play for money on your first round back from total hip replacement surgery and using your unadjusted handicap from before the surgery.
Are these frequent occurrences?
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Anyone playing the course I'm playing but aren't in my group.
Your course allows 111 others in a group?
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People insisting you play for money on your first round back from total hip replacement surgery and using your unadjusted handicap from before the surgery.
Are these frequent occurrences?
I pray not.
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I have to agree with Mac's ass chaping of Wade Schuneman's short-game. It pretty much rubs me the wrong way too.
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2) If I come in the bar, and ask how your round was, do not start your answer with "I was even in three fairway..." Just say fine or crappy!
Then, how do you feel about the opening salvo in this thread: http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,55169.0.html
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Electronic Smart Phone Scorecard/Stat Guy - The guy who keeps not only his score but also fairways hit, putts per hole, sand saves, up and downs, yardage hit with driver, club hit into each hole while shooting a million.
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2) If I come in the bar, and ask how your round was, do not start your answer with "I was even in three fairway..." Just say fine or crappy!
Then, how do you feel about the opening salvo in this thread: http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,55169.0.html
Just like in real life, I got about a quarter of the way through, realized where this was going, and went to get a drink.
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We could write a great book with all of this
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2) If I come in the bar, and ask how your round was, do not start your answer with "I was even in three fairway..." Just say fine or crappy!
Then, how do you feel about the opening salvo in this thread: http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,55169.0.html
Just like in real life, I got about a quarter of the way through, realized where this was going, and went to get a drink.
You did better than me as I only made it to the 2nd tee box. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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I got stuck playing with a prick that took every phone call, smoked and didn't give a rats ass which way the wind was blowing the smoke. He had other irratiating habits that drove me batty, and I eventually left the 4 some. I tried talking to him a few times, but his behaviour never changed. What was stupid of me was sticking around for about a years, letting this stuff get to me and not recognizing the best thing I could do was find another game.
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1. The 2 ball from the NY area that demadns to play at their own pace though behind several 4somes and the many others behind that would be affected by his playing through numerous groups.
2. #1
3. #1
4. #1
5. #1
Sorry to call out the NY area but each and every time something like this occurs, I chuckle and bet someone where the offfending party is from. Yet to lose.
Almost tempted to share e-mail exchanges with some of these "I am the most important person in the world" types.
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I forgot to add Serious Guy. Serious Guys is the one who thinks he's a Tour player and wants silence. He also is overly serious and has no sense of humor. Serious Guys also represents about 14% of GCA'ers.
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1. The few players who think their high skill level gives them special privileges on the course.
2. Unrequested, volunteered assistance (such as green reading) from four-ball partner.
3. A player who pounds his tee flat into ground after striking his tee ball.
4. Players who deposit their cigarette and cigar butts on the course any place they please.
5. Cliche spewers.
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We could write a great book with all of this
Been there, done that.
http://www.vagabondgolfer.com/misfits_on_the_links.htm
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1. The PGA tour dreamer- I play with these guys all the time here in the Coachella Valley and having all my friends being assistant golf pro's. Most of them are caddies that think they are amazing. Demand to play the farthest back tees even if it is over 7,600 yards. Think that if they only could make a couple more putts they could be on tour. They hit it 285 dead straight off the tee, you tell them, "nice drive" and they reply back with, "ahh, I caught it off the toe, wasn't that good." There are way to many PGA tour dreamers, just enjoy golf and realize you have NO CHANCE. The best is when my 78 beats their 82 and I am out there just having a good time.
2. Stand over my ball for over 10 seconds before pulling the trigger guy- nothing is more annoying than when a guy looks like he is ready to pull the trigger, and he just stands there like he has fallen asleep, and then after eternity seems to have passed he finally hits the ball. After the 3rd hole, I am usually off the tee box before he hits because it bothers me so much.
3. I want to recap my whole round to you in the golf shop- Like others have said, when I ask you how your round was, I am expecting a good, bad, nice comment. When you start recapping every shot you hit and how it could have been much better, I start losing my patience. I realize when I am in the golf shop I am paid to listen to you babble, but after a while I just walk to the cart barn and act like I have something to do.
4. These greens are way too firm kind of guy, the super doesn't know what he is doing- My immediate response to this 29 handicapper when he comes into the golf shop after a bad round complaining about firm greens and how his ball never stops. "Learn how to hit the ball higher buddy." Firm greens are a sign of healthy greens, wet soft greens are receptive to diseases. If you don't like them go join somewhere where they are soft and bumpy.
5. The cigarette somker who thinks the golf course is his ashtray- Hey I don't mind if you smoke cigs, even if you are a dick and don't realize you are blowing your smoke in everyones face. BUT DON'T feel like you are entitled to just pitch your cig whenever your heart desires. Nothing is worse than being behind a foursome with some smokers and every time you approach the green you see cigarette butts all around the place. If I was walking my dog and let him take dumps on your front yard every morning and didn't pick it up, how would you feel, it is the same thing in my opinion.
Other than that I am a pretty easy guy to play with.
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1. Cart path only with obligatory carts
2. Slow Play
3. Duck hooks (my fault)
4. The guy with the Tour bag with his name on it, who has everything Tour except game.
5. People using mobile (cell) phones on the course, especially egregious if audible. .
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1. Cigarette butts; i don't care if you smoke but please clean up after yourself.
2. Guy whom cant pick up his feet on the green; if i can see everywhere you've been on the putting surface, i get one free swipe at you with the flagstick
3. Double bogey blues; 3 handicap double bogies #4 and #5 doesnt speak another word until #17. It's a game meant to be enjoyed. We all have tough days; walk it off.
These last two are not really "on-course" and both come from a guy that's on the other side of the counter.
4. Please refrain from chewing out my bartender regarding pace of play; he/she had nothing to do with it. I'm in the golf shop, come talk to me.
5. Frost delay guy; I will let you know when you can golf. Asking me every 3 minutes when you can play is not going to get you on the course faster.
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1. People that smoke on the golf course and just discard their butts on the ground. I'll never understand why smokers think it is OK to throw an object that is on fire, onto the ground.
2. Golfers that play too fast. I understand all the frustration with the slow play. However, golf is my leisure time and I don't understand why people want to rush through their rounds. It's like a race against the clock. I don't want to play a round in three hours. I think four hours is a sufficient amount of time to play a round of golf. Call me crazy!
3. Fix your ball marks people! It takes all of ten seconds and it makes al lthe difference to how a green can repair itself.
4. The guy that wants to give everyone in the group a lesson throughout the round. Only problem is that he is a 15 handicapper himself. If someone seeks your advice, then great. If not, keep your mouth shut and play.
5. The golfer that claims to be a 12 handicap, but then you play against him in an event and suddenly he shoots the best round of his life. If a handicap is supposed to be a measure of your best rounds, and someone magically shoots way better, somethings not right.
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Slow play doesn't chap my ass while playing golf unless I can see the cause of the slow play with my own eyes.
I need a visible villain to get worked up about it -- guys, for example, who are never ready to hit when it's their turn to hit, and who leave their bags and their carts in the wrong place hole after hole, and who mark and re-mark their two-foot putts (aligning the Cheater Line perfectly), and who take half a dozen lousy practice swings before making their actual lousy swings, and who walk at a tortoise's pace, and who...
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People who don't fix pitch marks! (fix yours and one or two others on every green!)
People who slopilly rake bunkers! (It's not that difficult!)
People who don't understand that reading a green should already be completed when it's your turn to putt! (unless you are first to putt)
People who play in carts and have one player hit, then both get in the cart and drive to the other ball. Drop off one guy and go to your ball if you're in a cart!
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2. Golfers that play too fast. I understand all the frustration with the slow play. However, golf is my leisure time and I don't understand why people want to rush through their rounds. It's like a race against the clock. I don't want to play a round in three hours. I think four hours is a sufficient amount of time to play a round of golf. Call me crazy!
You're crazy.
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5. The guy who says "Nice shot" because you simply got the ball airborne. Usually followed by your ball actually landing in a bunker.
4. The guy who curses after every shot he hits. Even when the outcome is perfectly acceptable.
3. Unrepaired ball marks. - People should be happy to fix their ball mark because it is almost always the result of a well struck shot.
2. Sunflower seed shells on the green.
1. Slow Play - especially the guy who makes a point of mentioning the group up ahead who is causing the problem but gave him the perfect out for HIS slow play.
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#1 By far..hitting poor iron shots from the middle of the many fairways I am fortunate enough to hit. Usually the result of not trapping the ball the way I want to, the shear frustration of not being able to do what I know how to do when I want to do it.
Now other people
Slow Play
Cell Phones
Non repair of balls marks
Shitty Etiquette...primarily when a four or five ball wont let a single play through
Too much alcohol cosumption and the resultant shitty etiquette
Before anybody chimes in, I do realise that #1 is part and parcel of this great game, and thus I continue the endeavour.
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I expect slow play is everyone's number 1 so I'll go for 5 others
4. The clown who doesn't pick up after 6 / 7 shots - or, in matchplay, the guy that finishes the hole even though he lost it long ago
Wait a minute here. If you picked up after 6/7 shots in medal play, that should disqualify you from the entire competition. I would have to disagree - I think you should always finish your medal play competition, regardless of how poorly you are doing. Rory McIlroy notwithstanding.
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I expect slow play is everyone's number 1 so I'll go for 5 others
3. Bullshit, deliberate pre-shot routines - IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU HIT IT BETTER!!! Particularly annoying if they're a crap player
Brian,
I agree, but I find good players who are slower than molasses even more annoying. They should know better.
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Hey Gang,
What are some things that bug you? I love the game of golf and its my main hobby but there are a few things that get under my skin.
5. Guys who smack the dirt off their shoes in the parking lot.....who is supposed to clean that mess up?
4. A stale hotdog bun.....eating stale bread reminds me of eating a bad piece of cheese. I expect nothing but the best when dealing with both!
3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
2. The golfer who yells "f***" every other word. Lets keep it classy gents ;D
1. The "pervert" golfer in your group who goes a little over bored when flirting with the cart girl. She is so young she could be his daughter :-[
Guys like Bob Garvelink.
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Here are mine:
1. Cart paths only but you have to take a cart
2. Courses that don't tell you of a recent aerification when making a tee time over the phone or who don't post it on their website.
3. Go for it in two guy. He is the one who hits one drive 230 yards but then waits for a green to clear on a par 5 because he might reach them with his 3 wood. This guy is annoying if he is in the foursome in front of you or in your own foursome. You make a lot more birdies from 100 yards out then reaching the green in 2.
4. Marshalls who just drive around. There is a course I play at and the marshall does nothing but drive around. You could clean up the course, help people look for golf balls, rake traps, repair ball marks, monitor slow play, etc.
5. Environmental protection areas that are regularly destroyed by fire or flood. I can't enter them to hit a golf shot but every other year, they wash away or are burned down. For example, Rustic Canyon.
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5. Cell phones on the golf course
4. Mandatory carts
3. Finding out on the first green that the greens have been recently aerated
2. My swing
1. Slow play
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Carl, come on. I don't mean in medal play. I mean in casual play.
Of course I knew that. I just did not want to miss the opportunity to dig at Rory a little.
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5. Joey Chitwood- This guy drives his cart a few inches off the fringe, beside the bunkers and will actually drive and park his cart between the cart path and the tee, saving a good 3 feet of walking; hence, Joey is usually over a deuce and a half in heft. After 2nd infraction, and you mention this breach of etiquette, Chitwood smiles and chuckles and says, “Is this a problem?” Yes asshole, it is.
Love the name.
Oddly, I played with Joey Chitwood (III) summer before last. You'll be pleased to know he's nothing like this at all. Nice fellow - quiet, friendly, and not at all obnoxious. That said, his partner did all the driving, so who knows if he'd have turned it into a thrill show given the chance.
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On the course, everything used to bother me in my late teens, 20's & 30's.
Now, to be honest, nothing bothers me. Pretty darn happy every time I'm out playing, even with knuckleheads all around.
Just a different mindset now, for no good reason.
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Hey Gang,
What are some things that bug you? I love the game of golf and its my main hobby but there are a few things that get under my skin.
5. Guys who smack the dirt off their shoes in the parking lot.....who is supposed to clean that mess up?
4. A stale hotdog bun.....eating stale bread reminds me of eating a bad piece of cheese. I expect nothing but the best when dealing with both!
3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
2. The golfer who yells "f***" every other word. Lets keep it classy gents ;D
1. The "pervert" golfer in your group who goes a little over bored when flirting with the cart girl. She is so young she could be his daughter :-[
Guys like Bob Garvelink.
GJ Bailey,
Ouch...why me?
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Hey Gang,
What are some things that bug you? I love the game of golf and its my main hobby but there are a few things that get under my skin.
5. Guys who smack the dirt off their shoes in the parking lot.....who is supposed to clean that mess up?
4. A stale hotdog bun.....eating stale bread reminds me of eating a bad piece of cheese. I expect nothing but the best when dealing with both!
3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
2. The golfer who yells "f***" every other word. Lets keep it classy gents ;D
1. The "pervert" golfer in your group who goes a little over bored when flirting with the cart girl. She is so young she could be his daughter :-[
Guys like Bob Garvelink.
GJ Bailey,
Ouch...why me?
You went there to play golf, not to worry about any dirt that may get on the parking lot.
You went there to play golf, not to eat.
You went there to play golf, not ride around in a cart.
You choose to write words on the website that are not appreciated by the website owner.
You apparently support the obscene thing known as a beverage cart. You went there to play golf, not buy drinks from a cart and hold up play.
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Hey Gang,
What are some things that bug you? I love the game of golf and its my main hobby but there are a few things that get under my skin.
5. Guys who smack the dirt off their shoes in the parking lot.....who is supposed to clean that mess up?
4. A stale hotdog bun.....eating stale bread reminds me of eating a bad piece of cheese. I expect nothing but the best when dealing with both!
3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
2. The golfer who yells "f***" every other word. Lets keep it classy gents ;D
1. The "pervert" golfer in your group who goes a little over bored when flirting with the cart girl. She is so young she could be his daughter :-[
Guys like Bob Garvelink.
GJ Bailey,
Ouch...why me?
You went there to play golf, not to worry about any dirt that may get on the parking lot.
You went there to play golf, not to eat.
You went there to play golf, not ride around in a cart.
You choose to write words on the website that are not appreciated by the website owner.
You apparently support the obscene thing known as a beverage cart. You went there to play golf, not buy drinks from a cart and hold up play.
Are you putting words in Ran's mouth? How do you know he doesn't appreciate anything Bob said?
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Bill,
If I had to guess, it was what Bob originally wrote in reference to eating stale bread. :)
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Hey Gang,
What are some things that bug you? I love the game of golf and its my main hobby but there are a few things that get under my skin.
5. Guys who smack the dirt off their shoes in the parking lot.....who is supposed to clean that mess up?
4. A stale hotdog bun.....eating stale bread reminds me of eating a bad piece of cheese. I expect nothing but the best when dealing with both!
3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
2. The golfer who yells "f***" every other word. Lets keep it classy gents ;D
1. The "pervert" golfer in your group who goes a little over bored when flirting with the cart girl. She is so young she could be his daughter :-[
Guys like Bob Garvelink.
GJ Bailey,
Ouch...why me?
You went there to play golf, not to worry about any dirt that may get on the parking lot.
You went there to play golf, not to eat.
You went there to play golf, not ride around in a cart.
You choose to write words on the website that are not appreciated by the website owner.
You apparently support the obscene thing known as a beverage cart. You went there to play golf, not buy drinks from a cart and hold up play.
Are you putting words in Ran's mouth? How do you know he doesn't appreciate anything Bob said?
He has requested certain obscene words not be posted. The reason you don't see one posted above is because I mitigated it in my original reply.
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Hey Gang,
What are some things that bug you? I love the game of golf and its my main hobby but there are a few things that get under my skin.
5. Guys who smack the dirt off their shoes in the parking lot.....who is supposed to clean that mess up?
4. A stale hotdog bun.....eating stale bread reminds me of eating a bad piece of cheese. I expect nothing but the best when dealing with both!
3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
2. The golfer who yells "f***" every other word. Lets keep it classy gents ;D
1. The "pervert" golfer in your group who goes a little over bored when flirting with the cart girl. She is so young she could be his daughter :-[
Guys like Bob Garvelink.
GJ Bailey,
Ouch...why me?
You went there to play golf, not to worry about any dirt that may get on the parking lot.
You went there to play golf, not to eat.
You went there to play golf, not ride around in a cart.
You choose to write words on the website that are not appreciated by the website owner.
You apparently support the obscene thing known as a beverage cart. You went there to play golf, not buy drinks from a cart and hold up play.
Are you putting words in Ran's mouth? How do you know he doesn't appreciate anything Bob said?
He has requested certain obscene words not be posted. The reason you don't see one posted above is because I mitigated it in my original reply.
Where did Ran say that? And Bob did put quotes around his obscenity there in the OP.
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Things that piss me off:
Long rough in front of bunkers along the line of play.
Middle-handicap douche bags who play the tips.
Two perfect shots on a par-5 followed by a bladed wedge.
A caddy who smells like whiskey and B.O. - for $100 a bag?
The Yips.
Cigar ashes on the green.
Rees Jones
Arbitrary rough lines with no connection to a land form.
Trees overhanging fairways and greens.
Obnoxiously high "resort course" green fees.
Assholes who are mean to junior golfers.
Shitty rake jobs in the bunkers.
Fat asses too lazy to bend over and fix an extra ball mark or divot.
Clowns who leave broken tees all over the box.
5 hour rounds because greens meant to Stimp at 9 have been rolled and cut to 12.
Three groups waiting on a tee just as you're getting warmed up.
Smarmy-ass little weasels in the parking lot who insist on taking my bats and shoes - and then misplacing them.
A Walmart greeter on the first tee who lectures me like it is my first time on a golf course.
Idiots who mark their ball after every single putt.
Ugly beer-wenches - especially ones who only loudly drive up when you're lining up a shot.
Bumpkins who chew and then spit Copenhagen on the green, like tobacco and spit are fertilizer.
Deep rough, two-feet off the fairway where you find three Top Flites but lose your ball.
Long par-4s with narrow greens, oriented perpendicular to the line of play guarded in front by bunkers.
Losing a spike and then having to the fish dirt out of the threads after the round.
Playing behind a group of drunk losers who forget clubs every other hole.
32 handicappers who win every net event by miraculously "breaking 90 for the first time."
Sandbaggers who travel the charity event circuit and clean up with a crooked partner.
Hats on backwards. Indoors is even worse.
Guys who insist on playing spots, putts, greenies and junk - and hold up play after every hole marking the scorecard.
Clubs that do not allow shorts - especially on hot days.
Over-watered bogs because the club is too stubborn to plant the right variety of turfgrass.
Mushy greens.
Green Chairmen who don't know Alister MacKenzie from Mackenzie Phillips.
Playing a company scramble (that I'm invited to sponsor) with partners who play once a year.
Courses (like Torrey Pines) with the audacity to charge "Advance Booking Fees." How about this? F*ck you!
Anything run by American Golf.
In-course O.B. markers.
Thick rough around the putting surface.
Pins set in the toughest spots on the days when play is heaviest.
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Gib,
You sure you like golf? ok, i'm joking.
my peeves:
1/ slow play! if you want to take 5+ hours to play, build your own course. you are not exempt from hundreds of years of tradition. I want to play golf in the morning or afternoon, not both!
2/ Serious golfers.....by coincidence they are usually not very good. If you want to take some of my bets, at least contribute a few laughs. Saying "nice on" after my 9th shot is expected and welcome, getting upset after I call you "asshole" is not. :P
And yes, I will casually ask you to repeat your score a few times after your first "blow up" hole.
"What was that you had there again Chuck? A nine? you don't say."
"Sorry Chuck, let me confirm for the scorecard, that was a 9 you had on the previous hole right?"
And once we are on the next tee I will most certainly ask if anybody beat a 9 on the previous hole. If that works you up, stay home!
3/ Cell phones. If you must leave it on, put it on SILENT! Seriously, you are just not that important! Some guys ask me why they never get invited out again. I don't golf where you work so dont work where I golf.
4/The "pick up guy". Trying to pick up the beer cart girl at every course is some guys idea of demonstrating their "skills". Usually the girls have the grace to gently put these guys in their place but a few times they deserved a good kick in the jewels. Usually creepy, rarely funny and almost always single. And god help us if she rejects him outright.
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I don't know that I have anything to add to the fine list, but..
Clowns who leave broken tees all over the box.
I actually like broken tees on the box. Given that I only need a full tee with my driver, I often will reuse a broken tee that I find lying on a teebox. Sustainable golf.
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Hey Gang,
What are some things that bug you? I love the game of golf and its my main hobby but there are a few things that get under my skin.
5. Guys who smack the dirt off their shoes in the parking lot.....who is supposed to clean that mess up?
4. A stale hotdog bun.....eating stale bread reminds me of eating a bad piece of cheese. I expect nothing but the best when dealing with both!
3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
2. The golfer who yells "f***" every other word. Lets keep it classy gents ;D
1. The "pervert" golfer in your group who goes a little over bored when flirting with the cart girl. She is so young she could be his daughter :-[
Guys like Bob Garvelink.
GJ Bailey,
Ouch...why me?
You went there to play golf, not to worry about any dirt that may get on the parking lot.
You went there to play golf, not to eat.
You went there to play golf, not ride around in a cart.
You choose to write words on the website that are not appreciated by the website owner.
You apparently support the obscene thing known as a beverage cart. You went there to play golf, not buy drinks from a cart and hold up play.
Are you putting words in Ran's mouth? How do you know he doesn't appreciate anything Bob said?
He has requested certain obscene words not be posted. The reason you don't see one posted above is because I mitigated it in my original reply.
GJ Bailey and the entire GCA clan,
I apologize for my poor choice of words. If I have offended you or anyone else on this site please accept my deepest apologies.
Bob
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I don't know that I have anything to add to the fine list, but..
Clowns who leave broken tees all over the box.
I actually like broken tees on the box. Given that I only need a full tee with my driver, I often will reuse a broken tee that I find lying on a teebox. Sustainable golf.
yeah, but it would be good if they were at least piled just outside the right tee marker instead of having to move 3 or 4 of them just to take a stance on the tee box.
I can just kick them out of the way if I need to. If they're piled outside the tee marker, then I have to bend over twice which defeats the purpose.
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Painfully slow play
Sandbaggers
Incessant unsolicited critiques of my swing
Unabashed self adulation (e.g., "Wow. Did you see? I hit another wonderful shot!")
Public access courses that don't warn in advance they recently aerated
Incompetent caddies -- especially at $100/round
Missing rakes
Lateness on the first tee
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People who pound their tees into the ground. Looks terrible and hard on maintenance.
People who say "golfing, instead of "playing golf."
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at some time or another i am guilty of some or all of the things mentioned on this list. i apologise to anybody who has golfed with me.
The number one has to be slow play. but more specifically people who don't give a sh*t about the fact that others are on the course and meander along at their own pace. Be fcking considerate to others and get a move on. When you get to your ball by all means take your time within reason, but between shots you need to be aware that you are slow and get walking at a good speed.
The is an issue particularly with US public access courses where the concept of letting somebody through just does not exist.
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Where did Ran say that? And Bob did put quotes around his obscenity there in the OP.
My recollection was in his yearly post after having booted Barney, the Emperor, and Flemma the previous year.
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Green Chairmen who don't know Alister MacKenzie from Mackenzie Phillips.
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Heck, I wish there was at least one person on the committee that could recognize TOC.
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I left one off the list...and it can replace any of the above:
The person that takes 2-3 practice swings, with each one bringing up a divot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_-d-LrxpVo
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I saw Bob's "Pure Michigan" tag and thought of Not so spoofs. This thread is so bad it deserves a highjacking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae_SxDnD2W4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDCCcxlKzDU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FJoRxT6B5g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Kz6Rw99Kk
Ciao
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thanks, Gringo...now come clean my shorts.
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El Gringo,
Well done Sir :D
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3. The cheapskate tipper in your group who won't take care of the golf staff. Guys will spend $1000 on a golf trip or $400 on a driver but won't tip a cart boy properly when the young chap is trying to put his way through college
What about "over-tippers"? E.g., private club's policy is that tipping is not expected - staff members are paid well, at rates where tipping should not be expected. However, policy also says, for exceptional service dropping a dollar would be o.k. (but still not expected). Nevertheless, more than a few members still provide relatively good tips (more than $1) for normal service. This grates on me because now I feel like I've got to tip, too. I would not go so far as to say it "chaps my a . . . " but it does bug me a little. Note: I am not a cheap tipper - in situations where tipping is normal and expected, I am generous.
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the wind, especially when I'm playing in cheekless chaps (thank you, no applause necessary...)
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the wind, especially when I'm playing in cheekless chaps (thank you, no applause necessary...)
Wow, that's a memory I'm really sorry you have dredged up - Mardi Gras 1980. (No, I wasn't wearing them, unfortunately saw several fellows wearing them on Bourbon St). It was a chilly Mardi Gras......
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I've already offered up my five, but I have to add a couple more...
Mandatory carts and mandatory caddies (except when I'm playing as a guest). Generally speaking, there's no reason not to allow a golfer to have the option to carry his/her own bag. I don't use one, but I also think it's ridiculous that push carts are looked down upon here in the USA. If folks in the UK and Australia can use them, why not here? Seems to me that Bandon has the right approach. Offer caddie services to those who want it, but also allow the golfer to carry or push, as he/she chooses.
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Unrepaired ball marks
People who want to know the architectural significance of every hole/shot/thought as related to playing with the architect
Inappropriate dress
Access whores who complain
People who don't treat their caddy with respect
People who aren't ready when it is their turn
Lester
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Is Lester one of the things that chaps Lester, or was he just signing off?
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Ronald,
On occasion I must admit I chap myself. In this case I was just signing off.
Lester