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Title: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on November 19, 2011, 09:59:50 AM
Well, one of our members put together a plan that was accepted by the owner.  The club will not close.  I don't feel free to comment on the plan in this forum.  If any of you are interested in playing send me a personal message and I can set it up for you.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: JC Jones on November 19, 2011, 10:09:34 AM
Great news, Tommy!

I'm looking forward to the resurgence.  It is time to Occupy The Mill!!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: PThomas on November 19, 2011, 10:12:26 AM
great news Tommy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Jamey Bryan on November 19, 2011, 10:13:16 AM
Tommy, that is just fantastic news!  I really felt after our day there that something would work out, but these days one never knows.  I'm happy for you, the other members, and especially for Jeff and the rest of the staff.

Please come down to Camden on your next visit

Jamey
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Mac Plumart on November 19, 2011, 10:46:27 AM
SCWHING!!!!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Michael George on November 19, 2011, 11:34:01 AM
Tommy - congratulations

One question - how did the members figure it out without the input from everyone on this board ;)
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Howard Riefs on November 19, 2011, 11:47:05 AM
Super news!

Already looking forward to Dixie Cup 2013!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: PCCraig on November 19, 2011, 01:31:51 PM
Great news, congrats Tommy.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Bill_McBride on November 19, 2011, 01:35:45 PM
Super news!

Already looking forward to Dixie Cup 2013!


How many can be accommodated in those cottages?
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on November 19, 2011, 05:15:23 PM
Super news!

Already looking forward to Dixie Cup 2013!


How many can be accommodated in those cottages?

We can house four in guest rooms in the clubhouse and 16 in the cottages.
I'd be glad to set something up for 2013.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Wade Whitehead on November 19, 2011, 06:29:41 PM
Tommy:

Congratulations!  This is fantastic news for all of us.

Now you'll be splitting time between Musgrove Mill AND my favorite golf course in the world!

WW
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Joe Bausch on November 19, 2011, 06:39:00 PM
Beautiful man!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on November 19, 2011, 07:05:17 PM
Tommy:

Congratulations!  This is fantastic news for all of us.

Now you'll be splitting time between Musgrove Mill AND my favorite golf course in the world!

WW

Wade, I think it would be fun to have a home and away between MM and your favorite course in the world.  They are about five hours apart. MM has some tricky pin placements sometimes, but none like we saw yesterday.   :)
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Daryl "Turboe" Boe on November 22, 2011, 12:03:27 AM
Thanks for the post Tommy.

From what I understand things should be more formalized in some meetings that will happen this Wednesday.  But yes all of the news so far has been positive, it looks like it will not be ceasing operations in Dec as originally announced.

And I second what Tommy said, anyone who wants to get out to see this unique place let me know and one of us should be able to make it happen.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Daryl "Turboe" Boe on November 24, 2011, 10:30:47 PM
Ladies in my house are now going to be shopping into the wee hours of the morning on Black Friday.  Thinking about heading out to The Mill in the am on short notice.  Anyone on here near here care to join me?  JC, Mark, Jayme, anyone???

Weather is supposed to be nice, grass still has a light shade of green.  Now might be the perfect time.  Post here, or email me.

Thanks,
Turboe
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: JC Jones on November 25, 2011, 07:08:26 AM
Now you post!!  I'd be all over it but we are headed to the mountains to cut down our Christmas tree.

Play well!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Mark Pritchett on November 25, 2011, 08:23:47 AM
Daryl,

Thanks for the invitation, if I did not already have plans today I would plan to join you. 

Hooefully next time!

Mark
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Jamey Bryan on November 25, 2011, 08:55:35 AM
Turboe....

Like Jason and Mark, I'd love to have joined you if I hadn't previously committed.  It is a beautiful day, Musgrove should be shining!!

Have a great day!

Jamey
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Matt MacIver on November 26, 2011, 09:40:04 AM
Congratulations to all Members, current and prospective - what a great place. 
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Roger Wolfe on November 26, 2011, 02:10:32 PM
I finally got to play it a few weeks ago due to Jeff Tallman's generosity.  So far it is
MMill -1... Roger-0.

I can't wait for another shot at it.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Daryl "Turboe" Boe on November 26, 2011, 10:11:14 PM
Well I got my letter in the mail yesterday so it is now official.  they are having one more meeting early next week to dot the "i's" and cross the "t's" but Musgrove Mill is not closing and there will be some limited number of creative membership categories available it looks like.  So good news for all of us members, golf lovers across the SE, and especially the staff and their families who would have suffered the most in a potential shutdown if it would have happened.

Again anyone interested in hearing more email me, and better yet come on down and see us.  We would love to show you around.

Turboe

ps I was out there this morning again and the greens were more receptive as they are softening up for the winter, but still rolling about 12-13 I would guess.  Just fantastic!!

Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Lawrence Largent on November 29, 2011, 02:00:29 PM
I've been a visitor of the Mill for 12 years now.   I can't explain the feeling I get once I'm on the property.  Musgrove Mill is a very special place.  I talked to Jeff during the Invitational about a month ago and he explained that if it stayed open there would be some outstanding options for those who wanted to join.  I look forward for the chance to become apart of a club like Musgrove Mill.

Lawrence
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Michael Whitaker on December 15, 2011, 03:18:26 PM
Musgrove Mill is now offering an outstanding National Membership opportunity... one of the best I have EVER seen for a course/club of this quality.

They don't want me to post the details online, but I can share it with anyone who is interested via email. If you would like more information just send me an email at md.whitaker@me.com .There are a very limited number of these National memberships available, so don't snooze or this opportunity may pass you by.

By the way... I'm joining as a local member this week!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Bill_McBride on December 15, 2011, 06:46:30 PM
Musgrove Mill is now offering an outstanding National Membership opportunity... one of the best I have EVER seen for a course/club of this quality.

They don't want me to post the details online, but I can share it with anyone who is interested via email. If you would like more information just send me an email at md.whitaker@me.com.There are a very limited number of these National memberships available, so don't snooze or this opportunity may pass you by.

By the way... I'm joining as a local member this week!


Good for you!   That is a challenging and fun course.   
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: JC Jones on December 15, 2011, 07:37:34 PM
Musgrove Mill is now offering an outstanding National Membership opportunity... one of the best I have EVER seen for a course/club of this quality.

They don't want me to post the details online, but I can share it with anyone who is interested via email. If you would like more information just send me an email at md.whitaker@me.com .There are a very limited number of these National memberships available, so don't snooze or this opportunity may pass you by.

By the way... I'm joining as a local member this week!


Looking forward to many matches, my good man.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on December 16, 2011, 12:04:43 AM
We are picking up quite a few members.  I think the future looks pretty bright. The membership just wouldn't let the club die.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Daryl "Turboe" Boe on December 16, 2011, 06:49:16 AM
We are picking up quite a few members.  I think the future looks pretty bright. The membership just wouldn't let the club die.

I have been a member here for 15 years and couldn't think of many things that could make Musgrove Mill any better, but I was wrong... 

More of my extended GCA family as fellow members... Awesome!!!  For anyone up north thinking of the cold months you have in your future as they say on the Price is Right, "Come on Down"!  We'd love to see you.

I smell a Dixie Cup stop in its future!!!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Michael Whitaker on December 16, 2011, 05:22:04 PM
Daryl,

I definitely think a Dixie Cup at Musgrove should be planned for 2013. We are set at Chechessee and Secession for 2012. The problem with a DC at Musgrove is the second course... maybe CC of Spartanburg? That would be a great twosome.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Tim Gavrich on December 16, 2011, 05:32:21 PM
Daryl,

I definitely think a Dixie Cup at Musgrove should be planned for 2013. We are set at Chechessee and Secession for 2012. The problem with a DC at Musgrove is the second course... maybe CC of Spartanburg? That would be a great twosome.
I'm just throwing it out there, but isn't The Patriot pretty close to Musgrove Mill?  Perhaps they'd be interested in hosting one round of the Dixie Cup?

Great to hear that Musgrove is going to make it.  Now that I'm living and working in SC, perhaps I'll get there at some point.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Daryl "Turboe" Boe on December 16, 2011, 06:03:47 PM
Daryl,

I definitely think a Dixie Cup at Musgrove should be planned for 2013. We are set at Chechessee and Secession for 2012. The problem with a DC at Musgrove is the second course... maybe CC of Spartanburg? That would be a great twosome.
I'm just throwing it out there, but isn't The Patriot pretty close to Musgrove Mill?  Perhaps they'd be interested in hosting one round of the Dixie Cup?

Great to hear that Musgrove is going to make it.  Now that I'm living and working in SC, perhaps I'll get there at some point.

That was exactly what I was thinking as well, The Patriot is very close, and it is a lot of fun.  Those greens would keep everyone interested for sure.

Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Bill_McBride on December 16, 2011, 06:15:33 PM
Daryl,

I definitely think a Dixie Cup at Musgrove should be planned for 2013. We are set at Chechessee and Secession for 2012. The problem with a DC at Musgrove is the second course... maybe CC of Spartanburg? That would be a great twosome.
I'm just throwing it out there, but isn't The Patriot pretty close to Musgrove Mill?  Perhaps they'd be interested in hosting one round of the Dixie Cup?

Great to hear that Musgrove is going to make it.  Now that I'm living and working in SC, perhaps I'll get there at some point.

That was exactly what I was thinking as well, The Patriot is very close, and it is a lot of fun.  Those greens would keep everyone interested for sure.



With perhaps a visit with Mr. Cowley?   How many can stay on site at Musgrove Mill?
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Daryl "Turboe" Boe on December 16, 2011, 08:14:23 PM
Mary Musgrove says she missed you today Mike, JC, & Mark.

Took a few pics as I took a leisurely stroll for 9 holes.  Unfortunately my camera died a few weeks ago so just had the iPhone camera and this is probably the best one of the lot.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v487/Turboe/GCA%20General/e6d56a3f.jpg)


BTW If you don't know about Mary Musgrove yet, you soon will.  As members you will become well acquainted with her many charms and her idiosyncracies.  
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on December 16, 2011, 11:24:05 PM




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With perhaps a visit with Mr. Cowley?   How many can stay on site at Musgrove Mill?
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Bill,  between the cottages and the rooms in the clubhouse,  we can sleep 20.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: paul cowley on December 17, 2011, 12:47:15 AM
We need to make this work and I will do my part...let me know Daryl...this could be much needed fun!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Michael Whitaker on December 17, 2011, 09:18:26 AM





With perhaps a visit with Mr. Cowley?   How many can stay on site at Musgrove Mill?
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Bill,  between the cottages and the rooms in the clubhouse,  we can sleep 20.
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And... there's a Comfort Suites just up the road the can handle another couple hundred!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Bruce Wellmon on December 17, 2011, 09:26:36 AM
Daryl,

I definitely think a Dixie Cup at Musgrove should be planned for 2013. We are set at Chechessee and Secession for 2012. The problem with a DC at Musgrove is the second course... maybe CC of Spartanburg? That would be a great twosome.

A quick attempt at Google Maps said 28 miles from MM to CC of Spartanburg.
We have had Mimosa, Carolina, Gaston in the past. The Spence tour would continue with CCS.
I think CCS would be a great member of DC 2012.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Michael Whitaker on December 17, 2011, 04:55:13 PM
Daryl,

I definitely think a Dixie Cup at Musgrove should be planned for 2013. We are set at Chechessee and Secession for 2012. The problem with a DC at Musgrove is the second course... maybe CC of Spartanburg? That would be a great twosome.

A quick attempt at Google Maps said 28 miles from MM to CC of Spartanburg.
We have had Mimosa, Carolina, Gaston in the past. The Spence tour would continue with CCS.
I think CCS would be a great member of DC 2012.

Bruce - it would have to be 2013. 2012 is already planned for Chechessee Creek and Secession.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: JC Jones on December 17, 2011, 05:31:09 PM
Perhaps we could do an event late Spring of 2012?
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Bruce Wellmon on December 17, 2011, 06:06:12 PM
Daryl,

I definitely think a Dixie Cup at Musgrove should be planned for 2013. We are set at Chechessee and Secession for 2012. The problem with a DC at Musgrove is the second course... maybe CC of Spartanburg? That would be a great twosome.

A quick attempt at Google Maps said 28 miles from MM to CC of Spartanburg.
We have had Mimosa, Carolina, Gaston in the past. The Spence tour would continue with CCS.
I think CCS would be a great member of DC 2012.

Bruce - it would have to be 2013. 2012 is already planned for Chechessee Creek and Secession.

Sorry, my mistake. I meant 2013.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on December 18, 2011, 02:59:02 PM
Maybe we could go to the NC mountains for the second course. I think there are a couple of possibilities we could make happen.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Daryl "Turboe" Boe on December 18, 2011, 10:32:01 PM
Perhaps we could do an event late Spring of 2012?

There is always that little event down in Augusta in April, although the bermuda will still be brown for that.  If not May should be just perfect time to get some GCA folk together for a little fun at The Mill.

May consider heading out that way Wed or Thu.  Anyone wanting to break in their new memberships???

Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Lou Cutolo on February 01, 2012, 09:13:49 AM
Good News for Musgrove Mill

Reports of demise of renowned Arnold Palmer-designed golf course in South Carolina are exaggerated, as club owner McConnell Golf teams with membership to continue operations
RALEIGH N.C. (February 1, 2012) - In late 2011, McConnell Golf announced it would be closing one of its eight clubs, Musgrove Mill Golf Club in Clinton, S.C., at least temporarily due to continuing losses and declining membership.

Turns out the reported closing was very temporary, as McConnell Golf has now announced formulation of a plan with the Musgrove Mill membership that will allow the club to continue operations. The plan includes a partnership that shares responsibility for keeping the club open, and if the new partnership is successful then the club will remain open indefinitely.

McConnell Golf president and CEO John McConnell said the company is planning to transform Musgrove Mill into a more regional golf course with some innovative membership opportunities expected to attract a wide range of golfers from all over the country.

"We have been very pleased with the outpouring of support and interest to maintain operations," McConnell said. "Musgrove Mill is a special place and it is obvious that the members and community recognize the impact it has on the surrounding area. Our plans are to keep Musgrove open at this point and hopefully the excitement will continue to build."

Designed by Arnold Palmer Design Company and opened in 1988, Musgrove Mill (www.musgrovemill.com) boasts 6,933 yards of challenging golf for a par of 72. Over the years, Musgrove Mill has hosted almost every South Carolina Golf Association event and Carolinas' Amateur tournaments, and has been consistently ranked as Golfweek Magazine's "America's Top 100 Modern Courses" and Golf Digest's "Top 10 Rated Golf Course for South Carolina."

McConnell Golf bought Musgrove Mill ("The Mill" as it is affectionately referred) in 2007. Part of The Mill's challenge is its remote location. Set in Clinton, S.C., about halfway between Greenville and Columbia, it is an hour and a half from the nearest other McConnell Golf property.

Yet, while Musgrove Mill is indeed off the beaten path - a special getaway reminiscent of Pine Valley in Clementon, N.J. - it is also a pure golf club where members and their guests will find the ultimate in destination golf.

The Mill features cottages for overnight accommodations, a first-rate practice facility, full-service clubhouse with a private chef, and historic significance as a former Revolutionary War battle site. Boasting a small, select membership, no tee times, and a secluded, natural course layout, The Mill is the ideal destination for the accomplished golfer.

The Mill's course design is expertly placed amid the picturesque landscape with topography ranging from wetlands, various elevations and the Enoree River. Musgrove Mill Golf Club is also part of the Musgrove Mill South Carolina State Park due to its unaltered natural beauty and significance as a former Revolutionary War battle site.

The Mill's signature hole is the 189-yard par 3 seventh hole, which commands a tee shot over the bend of the Enoree River to reach the green. The hole was named one of "The King's Dream 18," an honor bestowed by Arnold Palmer to his best and most challenging designed holes.

McConnell said he has always envisioned Musgrove Mill as a tribute to pure golf and a great day-trip for any golfer wanting to tackle one of golf's finest tests - a sanctuary for golfers to eat and rest their heads after their rounds.

"Musgrove Mill is a phenomenal golfing venue," said McConnell. "It's a true golfer's golf club. Every shot demands a quality execution and there is a unique array of golf holes and hole design. There is not one hole that remotely resembles any other hole on the course."

Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Chris Johnston on February 01, 2012, 09:31:12 AM
Very good news!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Daryl "Turboe" Boe on February 01, 2012, 10:20:30 AM
Glad to see this topic came back up.  We have a small but nice circle of GCA members deveopling who have joined those of us who have been out there for years.  Anyone else that wants to come down (or over or up) and see The Mill let one of us know we are always happy to show her off to newcomers.

Today is one of those testing days where I am working in my home office and it is going to be near 70 and I am trying to resist the temptation to sneak out to The Mill.

Wish me luck!

Hope to see more of you soon...
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on February 01, 2012, 10:24:24 AM
Daryl, work is something you can do when it is dark. Golf is something
you generally need light to do. I know where I'd be.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Jeff Shelman on February 01, 2012, 10:44:46 AM
Turboe,

I agree with Tommy.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Daryl "Turboe" Boe on February 01, 2012, 04:27:22 PM
Tommy and Jeff, sorry I didn't see your replies until now.  I snuck out for a quick 9!
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Tommy Williamsen on February 01, 2012, 05:13:45 PM
Daryl, I am very proud of you for doing the right thing.
Title: Re: Like the Phoenix Musgrove Mill rises from the ashes
Post by: Daryl "Turboe" Boe on February 01, 2012, 08:05:13 PM
Daryl, work is something you can do when it is dark. Golf is something
you generally need light to do. I know where I'd be.

Tommy you are so right on this!  When I got my first job as a salesman (and its accompanying autonomy and freedom) I noticed that the company car they gave me had headlights on it.  I figured they were there for a reason so that I could drive when it was dark leaving those valuable daylight hours for more important pursuits.

By the way I also got a sample of a lighted golf ball last week at the PGA Merchandise Show that when you hit it triggers an internal LED light that stays on for 10 minutes.  So that might even allow me to expand the horizons of when golf can be played at twilight.  Now if I can just eliminate sleep entirely from my schedule I would really have something going...