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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: mark chalfant on November 02, 2010, 09:59:42 PM
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The New York Metropolitan area has a number of stelllar layouts including Winged Foot, Century, Wee Burn, Plainfield, Knoll etc. All opened in the 1920s and are still with us. What about Long Island ? Garden City, Engineers, NGLA, St Georges all opened before 1920. Bethpage, Montauk etc opened after 1930. Is there a gap in greatness of Remaining Examples that opened on Long Island during the 1920s ?
It seems The Creek in Locust Valley is a standout from that decade
Thanks for any feedback
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How about the original Deepdale?
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The original Timber Point was probably one of the best of the courses opened in the 1920s anywhere.
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Tillinghast's Fresh Meadows near Flushing - if you want to consider Queens as LI - was a stunner.
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Lido?
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Mark:
It's an interesting point you're making or perhaps asking about.
I never thought of it in an eral context like the 1920s with Long Island but it's probably true to say that most of the best clubs and courses on Long Island were in existence before the 1920s.
The Creek is a good example of a club started in the '20s (1922) and by perhaps the biggest group of heavyweight founders I've ever heard of----but the reason for the creation of The Creek had as much to do with the disposition of a large tract of land that it is partially on as anything else.
And don't forget Marion Hollins' Womens National (1922-24). That was pretty remarkable but it probably suffered some because not long after it began Marion was trying to be a bit too bicoastal.
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Raynor's greatest stretch may have been the 20's on Long Island.
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Lido?
Lido GC opened in 1917.
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Land prices on LI in the twenties went up dramatically. To buy 100+ acres of prime real estate on LI would cost you in excess of $1,000,000. There aren't too many start clubs that can afford that kink of investment, which is why a lot of the courses mentioned so far have connections to the super wealthy. Glen Oak, Deepdale and North Hills all had some kind of Vanderbilt connection. Three of the most successful projects in the 20s were redesigns: Nassau, Shinnecock and Maidstone.
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Tilly's Southward Ho in 1923 and Sands Point in 1928.
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It may only be a coincidence in timing but three of the most prominent architects of Long Island courses (Macdonald, Travis and Emmett) were pretty much winding down or had into the 1920s.