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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: Craig Disher on November 02, 2010, 11:47:52 AM
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We will use this thread as the primary source of information for the Buda Cup IX. All updates will be posted here so if you are planning to attend, check here every so often.
The Budapest Cup IX will be held 28-30 September 2011 at Liphook Golf Club (http://www.liphookgolfclub.com/) and Hankley Common Golf Club (http://www.hankley.co.uk/). The schedule for play will be
28 September - Hankley Common GC
Breakfast
6 tee times, foursomes at 8:30 AM
Lunch
6 tee times, foursomes or 4ball, no later than 2:30 PM
29 September - Liphook GC
Coffee on arrival
6 tee times - 9:00 AM
Light lunch
6 tee times - 2:00 PM
Formal 3-course dinner at Liphook GC
30 September - Liphook GC
Coffee on arrival
6 tee times - 9:00 AM
Sandwiches following
The total cost for the 3 days of golf and the meals listed above is 245GBP.
We are still investigating a suitable hotel that will accommodate our entire group. You're certainly free to locate another hotel or b&b on your own but keep in mind that we are considering a second dinner at the hotel - if we can negotiate a reasonable rate.
We are asking for a deposit to show serious interest. It will be non-refundable after 1 May 2011. If we are over-booked, preference will be given to those who can commit to play all three days. From the level of interest so far, it appears that we may have a full house but keep in mind that there are usually a few golfers who prefer to play only 18 holes on the 36-hole days so it's likely that we
can accommodate more than 24 golfers on the 28th and 29th.
The deposit will be $150 or 100GBP. If anyone prefers to write a dollar check, it can be made payable to Craig Disher and sent to my address
3309 Morrison St. NW
Washington, DC 20015
GBP checks can be sent to
Tony Muldoon
3 Meynell Crescent
London
E9 7ASA
The balance will be paid to either Tony or me prior to play on the 28th.
When you respond to this thread, please include your USGA index or CONGU handicap and indicate whether you would like to play all 3 days and/or all 5 rounds. There will also be good opportunities for pre- and post- Buda play. Chappers has already announced a warm-up day at Deal and there are also excellent courses near Liphook and Hankley Common.
Registration Information (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ao6rn5EyD_zZdHZBMG5mUGJtSlphUXI0dzlZTklUWGc&hl=en&output=html)
Hankley Common Information (https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B46rn5EyD_zZMDEwZGFhYmEtMTc1Ni00ZTM5LTg3MWMtZTcyYWI2YmU5YzA5&hl=en&authkey=CIOC0okE)
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Craig
Well done with the organizing. Now all the fun begins!
I am interested in playing the 30th at Liphook if I can play last out (its a bit of a drive for me!). I am not sure what the cost of the round is, but I would think paying that green fee is cheaper than the deposit - no?
Are there any thoughts about golf the 31st and 1st? This would definitely sway me toward heading down if it comes off.
Ciao
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Craig,
Put me down. I think Conrad and Giles will both be on for this but will confirm in due course.
One thing strikes me. At that time of year in London the sun is setting at 6.40 pm. We are going to really struggle to get 6 groups round starting at 2 or 2.30pm.
Looking forward to it.
Mark
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Crig,
Put me down for Buda please! I will send a money order to you in the next few days. Thanks so much for doing the legwork.
Bob Jenkins
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Craig,
Excellent, please count me in for everything at present. I'll send a cheque to Tony for the deposit.
I had to disappear sharpish this year, but as our last day is a Friday, I don't fancy the drive home on a Friday afternoon / evening so I imagine I'll stay over that night and look for a possible round on Saturday morning if anyone else is interested and we can arrange something for the following morning??? Hindhead or West Sussex perhaps though not easy for a Saturday morning?
Cheers,
James
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Craig,
Excellent, please count me in for everything at present. I'll send a cheque to Tony for the deposit.
I had to disappear sharpish this year, but as our last day is a Friday, I don't fancy the drive home on a Friday afternoon / evening so I imagine I'll stay over that night and look for a possible round on Saturday morning if anyone else is interested and we can arrange something for the following morning??? Hindhead or West Sussex perhaps though not easy for a Saturday morning?
Cheers,
James
Craig,
Also count me in - looking forward to this BUDA as a sophomore!
Ditto to Boony's comment above
Cheers
Ben
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Craig,
I would love to play -- please count me in! All 3 days. 11.1 Index.
Many thanks to you and Peter for making the arrangements.
Eric
Darth Boony,
Only a Sith Lord carries a red lightsaber!
I'm in for whatever post BUDA golf you and Cpt. Solo are threatening to scare up that weekend.
Cheers,
Old Speckled Jedi
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Thanks Craig count me in. 13 (but there's a year to go!)
The obvious Sat course is Blackmoor but sadly no visitors. We have time but possibilites include
http://www.stonehamgolfclub.org.uk/index.lasso?pg=aa74bbc7e471f054&cl=1&catid=58d059de2a786341&mp=3832e08b72245011 Sean has profiled this and its a wonderful gem with perhaps my favourite short par 4.
http://www.haylinggolf.co.uk/index.lasso?pg=5996f03aa6d5e46f&cl=1&catid=49ec8afa3479e7c1&mp=760f20a8cec6b738
I've always wanted to see this.
Stoneham.
Short, blind and what the pictures don’t show is, don’t go left.
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/Muldoon3/Stoneham/137.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/Muldoon3/Stoneham/138.jpg)
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(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/Muldoon3/Stoneham/143.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/Muldoon3/Stoneham/144.jpg)
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/Muldoon3/Stoneham/143.jpg)
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Let’s wait until Craig has a quorum and then start a new thread.
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Craig,
I would love to play -- please count me in! All 3 days. 11.1 Index.
Many thanks to you and Peter for making the arrangements.
Eric
Darth Boony,
Only a Sith Lord carries a red lightsaber!
I'm in for whatever post BUDA golf you and Cpt. Solo are threatening to scare up that weekend.
Cheers,
Old Speckled Jedi
How about a fancy dress party dedicated to Star Wars during BUDA?? LOL
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Yes, I like Spangles' idea of Stoneham! And yes, yes, oh what a thrill the 13th is. Comfortably the least heralded and most deserving of praise short 4 I know of. For those familiar with Delamere Forest, Stoneham is that sort of course but probably slightly better. I know a member and may ask him if he can work on our behalf if folks are interested. See my review below.
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,30823.0/
Hayling is also quite good and with Stoneham adheres to the BUDA IX motto of "if it ain't a hidden gem Pests won't be there".
Hockley is a sleeper course near Winchester which could also be of interest. Its a fine downland course with a handful of exceptional holes.
Ciao
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Craig - I am in for all three days along with Dixie Cup participant Ken Fields who will be traveling with me in England on this trip.
Once again... I nominate Peter Mallalieu for Euro captain.
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I'm in and assume Drinkin' Joe will be too.
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I nominate Peter Mallalieu for Euro captain.
Good call Captain Whittaker.
I nominate Bill McBride for USA Captain!
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One would hope with such fine offerings we could pull together a GB team v a RoW team.
European is so un-English!
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One would hope with such fine offerings we could pull together a GB team v a RoW team.
European is so un-English!
Chappers
It was GB&I (with the I aka Spangles) vs USA this year. The problem is getting these ROW guys out of the woodwork.
Ciao
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Happy to hand The Muldoon to RoW!! No "I" in GB. ;)
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I'll get a deposit check sent to Craig on Monday.
Mark,
If Deal is in the works for Tuesday, count me in.
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Deposits are now rolling in. Craig has added a very cool link at the bottom of the first post
Registration Information (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ao6rn5EyD_zZdHZBMG5mUGJtSlphUXI0dzlZTklUWGc&hl=en&output=html)
Anyone know the first two to sign up? ;)
I’m in for Deal on Tuesday and staying until Sat.
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Anyone know the first two to sign up? ;)
I have a dim memory of the first one being a reprobate and the second a ringer. But maybe I'm thinking of someone else, it's been ages...
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Happy to hand The Muldoon to RoW!! No "I" in GB. ;)
You will live to regret this, Mr. Chaplin. Mark my words! ;D
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Sorry if this is a stupid question; but is it all or nothing? I'd like to play some of this but won't be able to take all 3 days off work, esp. as I plan to take a big chunk of vacation to do course marshalling in the Open in July.
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Jamie ideally Craig is hoping for two teams but already knows some people can't do it all. It's up to him to have the final word on this but if you can be flexible, dropping in will be most welcome.
My brother is in the same position.
Tony
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I'm all in.
Ulrich
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Craig - Check is on the way for Ken and me. All five rounds.
Chappers & Mark - I will be at Deal on Tuesday with my guest Ken Fields. Put me down to host two additional guests.
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Craig - Check is on the way for Ken and me. All five rounds.
Chappers & Mark - I will be at Deal on Tuesday with my guest Ken Fields. Put me down to host two additional guests.
Can a few of us book the dormie flat at this early date?
I am thinking fly in on Sunday and play at Rye, Littlestone and Deal before heading to Farnham.
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Bill - Tell me what you want and I'll set it up for you. As you know, the dormy flat has four bedrooms (six beds) and three showers... plus the locker room is available in a rush. The cost is 45GBP per person per night.
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Bill - the Dormy House shouldn't be an issue and Mike can pre-book it now.
Will look at reserving four tee times from 1030 we can always add or subtract subject to demand.
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Is there a way to play Hankley Common on one of the days before the BUDA? Seeing that we might play foursomes only, it would be nice to get in a complete round as well.
Ulrich
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Bill - Tell me what you want and I'll set it up for you. As you know, the dormy flat has four bedrooms (six beds) and three showers... plus the locker room is available in a rush. The cost is 45GBP per person per night.
Should wait for now, too many options. I'd love to play Woking and New Zealand and they are easy to reach from a hotel in Pareham.
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Bump
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Craig
Put me down as interested in post Buda golf. I would also like to know when the doors open for business for guys not playing all three days.
Ciao
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Craig
Put me down as interested in post Buda golf. I would also like to know when the doors open for business for guys not playing all three days.
Ciao
Sean,
Interest noted. If you look at the registration sheet what we're aiming for is each day's column to have 24 x's with the x's coming from those who have paid a deposit. If we don't fill all 24 slots with depositers, we'll fill in as we can from local members or others who would like to show up for just a day or a round. The door is open for one-day players but I have to say that if we have 24 players who want to play 3 days and send a deposit, they will have precedence. But you probably remember that in all previous Budas we've had open slots and I'm sure 2011 will be the same.
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If you want weekend golf Royal Ashdown accepts Saturday and Sunday visitors.
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Great idea, anyone up for a Saturday morning round post-BUDA?
Ulrich
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Royal Ashdown looks impressive. I am interested as I assume other courses may be difficult to access on Saturday?
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Bi-monthly bump.
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Craig,
I assume you received my deposit? Looking at the spread sheet, I am open to play on all of the times on September 28-30. As I am still trying to sort out my flight, I cannot confirm before and after golf yet but hope to do so this week. I expect to be looking for golf pre-Buda at the least and Royal Ashdown sounds great.
I will be in touch soon. Thanks again.
Bob
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Looking like I won't make it this year. I have the trip is to Australia next month, and not sure I can do both.
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Looking like I won't make it this year. I have the trip is to Australia next month, and not sure I can do both.
You can do both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm open to pre and post Buda golf as well. If there's a pre-Buda Sunday thing at RCP or thereabouts, I'd be all over it, as I expect to poke my head out of the channel tunnel right about then ;-)
Ulrich
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Freely admitting that I am a Royal Cinque Ports whore, I am wondering about the following agenda......
Fly Friday
Arrive GTW Saturday am, drive to Deal, RCP pm round
Sunday x2 at RCP
Monday drive to Woking (or New Zealand)' play pm round
Tuesday the other
Wednesday-Friday, Buda Cup
Saturday, fly home
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I suspect Laura would approve!
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I'm going to Dixie this year so the Americans will have to take their lumps without me helping the cause. Have fun and
play drink well!
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Gentlemen
I am in to the best of my ability
I do not crave special treatment but would the powers that be consider rescheduling to the weeknd of the 17/18/19?
I Will be at the Walker Cup and could extend that tour and justify a three week absence ; can't do hang out for four weeks until the current date and I will really have to hit a home run to make a return trip that soon ( not to mention withstand the sexual healing suggested to thwart jet lag so closely spaced)
I appreciate your indulgence and consideration
Far and Sure
Ward Peyronnin
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Freely admitting that I am a Royal Cinque Ports whore, I am wondering about the following agenda......
Fly Friday
Arrive GTW Saturday am, drive to Deal, RCP pm round
Sunday x2 at RCP
Monday drive to Woking (or New Zealand)' play pm round
Tuesday the other
Wednesday-Friday, Buda Cup
Saturday, fly home
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I suspect Laura would approve!
Can I get an "amen?"
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"Mr McBride is always welcome xx"
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Looking like I won't make it this year. I have the trip is to Australia next month, and not sure I can do both.
John,
A shame that you (and Jason also) wont be with us this year, though I'm looking forward to hearing all about everyones get together in Oz for the Boomerang! Lets hope you can make it over here next year!
And its good to hear that Che Wardo and the Throbbing Pants will be hopefully headlining ;)
September seems a long way away at the moment...
Cheers,
James
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Put me down as very keen. Also like to have a knock around Hindhead either before or after if anyone is interested.
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Craig,
My check is in the mail to you today.
Thanks!
Eric
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Craig,
My check is in the mail to you today.
Thanks!
Eric
Hooray!!! Really glad you are coming.
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Given all of the discussion about handicaps at the two BUDA's I have attended, I thought the attached article from Dean Knuth comparing US to CONGU handicaps would be useful:
http://www.popeofslope.com/scotland/usscothandicaps.html
His advice:
1. US Players should use their US home course handicap when playing in the UK (not their index - for example, at my club a 6.3 index = an 8 handicap)
2. There is no simple way to compare CONGU to slope system handicaps because the systems are so different.
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What you can do is calculate a CONGU handicap for yourself by entering the rounds you play in the UK. All you need for that is the course's SSS value, which is readily availabe, and a starting handicap, for which you can use your USGA course handicap. After a couple of rounds in the UK you will have a decent approximisation.
Ulrich
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Craig/Tony,
I'm in. So is Conrad.
Cheques to follow.
Mark
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Bump.
We're up to 16 confirmed - 18 after the cheques from Mark and Conrad are rec'd. Note that there are now over 24 who have either committed or shown interest. We are limited to 24 slots so be aware that if you're planning on attending there is a possibility that you may be disappointed.
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Drinkin' Joe Buehler and I have shifted our thoughts on non-Buda golf to the weekend after Buda. We, along with Lynn Shackleford, are willing to grovel for weekend games at Deal and/or Rye and Littlestone. We promise to behave ourselves and to buy the first round.
For those who might be interested, a few slots are available on a very nice heathlands course south of London on the Monday after Buda. Please let me know.
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Craig,
Glad to see that you received my check. Also, please put me down for all 3 days + I am hoping to play there around London on the Tuesday before Buda.
Cheers,
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I'm in too - all 3 days - will send you a cheque asap.
Giles
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Craig,
Cheque in post to Tony Muldoon. Cheers for organising BUDA 2011!
Ben
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Deposit cheque on its way to Tony. I'm in for the first two days only. Hcp 10.
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I'm in for all 5 rounds and some pre- or post- BUDA golf. Handicap 12.5. Conrad will play the same golf. Not sure what his handicap is.
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Craig - just to confirm that I think I paid my deposit to Tony?
my handicap is 6
I don't think i can make all 3 days so will most likely play Hankley day 1 and Liphook on day 2.
unlikely to play in pre and post golf.
I reckon i will attend for two nights so will book when you have details on this front.
I see that Ran is threatening to turn up! Good for him - will be good to have him attend. I assume he has some golf planned pre/post.
Hope you well, all best, Philip
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Bi-monthly bump.
We now have 21 confirmed attendees and a few that are interested. Below the link to the registration list is the society brochure from Hankley Common that provides information on location, club rules, etc.
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Hankley Common looks lovely.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/pgawith/hankleyfirstnine/hankley07020.jpg)
Here is Scott Warren's blog write up of his visit to HC:
http://theglobalgolfer.blogspot.com/2010/05/hankley-common.html
and his thread with photo tour:
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,44140.msg960813
This is Philip Gawith's colourful thread with photo tour:
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,30891.msg608578
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Official BUDA hotel now revealed.
Unfortunately I haven’t been able to get there to check it out, but what’s BUDA without the potential for a Fawlty experience? This offers outstanding value in one of the dearest parts of the UK. It has a restaurant for Wednesday night and a bar we can all stay up late in. It’s conveniently located between the two courses.
PLEASE MAKE YOUR OWN RESERVATIONS. They will ask you for a small deposit. Note the rate goes up if you book after the end of May.
From the Hotel.
After speaking with my director we can offer you a twin room with double occupancy in each at a rate of £55 per room. This includes breakfast for both occupants. This is the best rate around, and I don’t believe you would find a better deal in our area as our usual rate is itself good value for money especially for that time of year. And that is £65 including breakfast. A closing date would have to be the end of May .
If you guys are planning on dinner here as well I’ve also arranged a special offer for you at £10.95 for two courses. Our bar is also open from 11am to around 11.30pm most evenings for any socials after.
Regards,
Richard Millington
Sales TeamDevil's Punchbowl Hotel 52 London Road Hindhead, SurreyGU26 6AG
Tel: 01428 606565Fax:01428 605713Web: www.devilspunchbowlhotel.co.uk
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Jesus, at £27.50 per person including brekkie, you'd hardly mind if Basil was manning the front desk!
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Bump see post 2 above.
Please help get the news out as it will be a lot more fun if we can all end up under the same roof.
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I sent an email to the hotel asking for a single occupancy rate; haven't heard back yet.
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Bump see post 2 above.
Please help get the news out as it will be a lot more fun if we can all end up under the same roof.
Hey Tony.
Thanks a bunch for making the group arrangements! I booked my room at the Devil's Punchbowl for Tues - Fri.
Love the logo, btw:
(https://www.pandarooms.com/hotel_photos/9879/logo.jpg)
Think I'll ease on back towards Heathrow after golf on Friday, since my flight leaves Saturday morning.
Anyone up for checking out St. George's Hill on Friday afternoon?
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Eric
I may be keen to join you if there are other things going on for at least the Saturday. Its not looking like I will make the main event, but I hope to join folks for the post Buda Friday/Saturday/Sunday AM. I haven't heard much about what is going on.
Ciao
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Eric
I may be keen to join you if there are other things going on for at least the Saturday. Its not looking like I will make the main event, but I hope to join folks for the post Buda Friday/Saturday/Sunday AM. I haven't heard much about what is going on.
Ciao
Sean,
That would be great! I hope my telling you that it is Friday afternoon (not Saturday) that I aim to play SGH, doesn't affect your keenness!
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Conrad and I booked into match headquarters. Worth knowing that Richard Millington is the name of Tony's contact, the rate I was first quoted was £79.95 for the room!
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I'm in for Friday afternoon, whether it be an additional round at Liphook or somewhere else. However, it might be worth considering that St. George's Hill is about a 45 minutes drive from Liphook, whereas the acclaimed(?) Hindhead is just 10 minutes away.
Ulrich
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Bump. I've been away for a week in beautiful sunny Ireland.
Hopefully Craig see's this and we can clarify the position re Golf at Liphook on the Friday PM. I have emails from them in the office and I’ll check those too. I’ve always enjoyed the ‘afters’ round on the last day of BUDA and it should offer the best deal. Fri night I’m off to a wedding in Scotland, might be more organising to do, but counts me out for more golf.
I get back from my main holiday on the previous Saturday but I could make a trip to Deal on Sunday, if anyone is interested. Might be time for new thread?
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Crank up your speakers...
The Magic of Liphook (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8wH_YbUEpY&feature=related)
;D
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I won't be needing hotel accommodation, as I live only 10-15 miles away, but will hopefully be around for an evening meal or two. I'm also interested in pre/post BUDA golf, especially if Hindhead is on the agenda.
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Booked at Devils Punchbowl.
Tony, you should contact the hotel and make sure we are all booked at the correct rate. I was quoted something different and I'm not 100% convinced it was corrected. I guess it will be sorted on arrival?
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I sent the hotel an email asking for a single rate and haven't heard back. Any suggestions would be welcome. If they offered a special rate for doubles I guess the single rate might be x2.
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Is there still room?
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Stam see IM.
Bill try ca;omg him I founf him very helpful.
Mike I'll send you a copy of the email offer he sent me -quoted above- and at the end of the month I'll send him a list of names I know of. Once an offer is made we can demand its honoured.
Tony
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Tony,
Thanks for sorting out BUDA HQ!
Just so you know, Ben Stephens and I are booked in from Tuesday night till a check out on Saturday morning. Depending upon post Buda plans, I checked with the hotel and if it works better that we check out on the Friday, thats not a problem as long as we tell them when we check in...
Also just to confirm for the Registration link: I'm off 5, in for all 3 days of Buda golf, certainly interested in post Buda golf (to avoid heading north on the M1 on a Friday) and pre Buda golf is also a possibility depending upon some logistical issues...
September can't come quick enough!
Cheers,
James
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Some info for planning local transportation while attending Buda IX:
Frequent direct train service from London Waterloo [WAT] to Haslemere [HSL] (no changes)
Travel Time = 45-60 mins
Cost = £18 (less with railcard)
Taxi from Haslemere Station to Devil's Punchbowl Hotel ~ £10
Taxi from Devil's Punchbowl Hotel to Liphook Golf Club or Hankley Common ~ £14
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Deposits are now in and we have our teams.
I’m delighted to say that Stan Dodd and Chappers have now confirmed.
So imagine a drum roll...
USA
Craig Disher
Lynn Shackleford
Mike Whittaker
Ken F
Bob Jenkins
Bill McBride
Joe Bueler
Ran Morrisett
Eric Smith
Joe Andriole
Richard Goodale
Stan Dodd
ROW
James Boon
Ian Dickson
Phillip Gawith* days tbc
Tony Muldoon
Ulrich Mayerling
Jim Goby
Ben Stevens
Conrad Gamble
Mark Pearce
Robin Hiseman 28th / 29th only
Giles Payne
Peter Malelieu
Mark Chaplin
IN most matches it will be a straight 12vs12 as a few have indicated that they feel substitutions for the PM rounds are in order. So it works.
Time for nominations for Captains. EDIT JUST re read page one.
Looks like we have room for one on Friday as Philip has said he’s unlikely to be able to stay.
Sean, Jamie?
Anymore thoughts on pre or post BUDA games? I will be at Deal on the Sunday before but work and a wedding means nothing else possible.
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Re: pre-Buda golf, I am hoping for a p.m. round at Woking on Tuesday (our flight's in that morning). What's the drill? Does an email to the secretary work? This would be Drinkin' Joe and me and I think Lynn Shackleford, so there's room for at least one more.
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Re: pre-Buda golf, I am hoping for a p.m. round at Woking on Tuesday (our flight's in that morning). What's the drill? Does an email to the secretary work? This would be Drinkin' Joe and me and I think Lynn Shackleford, so there's room for at least one more.
Steady on. I know they respond to fax!
I've always found the secretary very helpful, it's a great place.
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Deposits are now in and we have our teams.
I’m delighted to say that Stan Dodd and Chappers have now confirmed.
So imagine a drum roll...
USA
Craig Disher
Lynn Shackleford
Mike Whittaker
Ken F
Bob Jenkins
Bill McBride
Joe Bueler
Ran Morrisett
Eric Smith
Joe Andriole
Richard Goodale
Stan Dodd
ROW
James Boon
Ian Dickson
Phillip Gawith* days tbc
Tony Muldoon
Ulrich Mayerling
Jim Goby
Ben Stevens
Conrad Gamble
Mark Pearce
Robin Hiseman 28th / 29th only
Giles Payne
Peter Malelieu
Mark Chaplin
IN most matches it will be a straight 12vs12 as a few have indicated that they feel substitutions for the PM rounds are in order. So it works.
Time for nominations for Captains. EDIT JUST re read page one.
Looks like we have room for one on Friday as Philip has said he’s unlikely to be able to stay.
Sean, Jamie?
Anymore thoughts on pre or post BUDA games? I will be at Deal on the Sunday before but work and a wedding means nothing else possible.
Spangles
No, I can't make a 9-10 am start on Friday so count me out. I am hoping to play an afternoon game and Saturday and Sunday AM if stuff is going on. I know Eric is interested in St Georges Hill. Is there anything happening the weekend prior?
Ciao
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Re: pre-Buda golf, I am hoping for a p.m. round at Woking on Tuesday (our flight's in that morning). What's the drill? Does an email to the secretary work? This would be Drinkin' Joe and me and I think Lynn Shackleford, so there's room for at least one more.
Steady on. I know they respond to fax!
I've always found the secretary very helpful, it's a great place.
I emailed the secretary. Then I sent him a follow up when I noted their website has a reference to GCA's profile of Woking! They won't be able to say no!
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Anymore thoughts on pre or post BUDA games? I will be at Deal on the Sunday before but work and a wedding means nothing else possible.
Spangles
No, I can't make a 9-10 am start on Friday so count me out. I am hoping to play an afternoon game and Saturday and Sunday AM if stuff is going on. I know Eric is interested in St Georges Hill. Is there anything happening the weekend prior?
Ciao
Sean,
I had hoped to add on one last round after we wrap up on Friday and SGH would be sweet - but I'm thinking now I'll likely pack up the clubs and ride the train in to London to visit my sister's boyfriend, take in some sites and log some pub time with him before I fly home on Saturday.
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Bill, I'd love to play Woking, so if the Tuesday PM round is happening and there's still room, then I'm in.
Or, as Friedrich Schiller would say:
'Tis mine your suppliant now to be,
Ah, let the band of love—be three!
Yes, taking some liberty with his verse, I think they only allowed three-balls back then.
Ulrich
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Bill, I'd love to play Woking, so if the Tuesday PM round is happening and there's still room, then I'm in.
Or, as Friedrich Schiller would say:
'Tis mine your suppliant now to be,
Ah, let the band of love—be three!
Yes, taking some liberty with his verse, I think they only allowed three-balls back then.
Ulrich
I will know more shortly. I'm hoping we can get a couple of four balls for lunch and an afternoon round.
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Bill
I am a team player, so I will go where you want or need me. I had initially expressed an interest in playing Woking on Tuesday the 27th. Since then I have been told I should play Walton Heath(Old), because it is better than Woking. In fact without knowing the accessibility of either or the price, I have recently emailed the Secretary at Walton Heath. I have not yet heard back.
Do you know anything about either or have you played either? Anyone who wants to express a thought, it will be welcomed.
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Lynn,
Walton Heath was the first course outside the USA I ever played. Both the Old and New are first-rate. In fact I would not want to have to choose which of those two I prefer as the New seemed equal in quality and had a couple of my favorite holes out of the entire 36-hole day. Lunch was good, too. For what it's worth.
I have no played Woking, unfortuantely so I can't offer a comparison. I played a couple of links courses on that same trip and probably prefer them to almost any inland course but the day at Walton Heath was nearly as enjoyable as even the links. They had recently begun the tree reduction when I was there in 2006 and have done even moreso by now I'm sure. The property has a very open feel to it and plenty of width to play with. Very nice roll to the land, not hilly enough to be an unpleasant walk but plenty of ups and downs so that there are few flattish holes. The green, as a whole, are rather on the subtle and low-profile end of the spectrum rather than being highly contoured. I found the whole course to be an excellent design without needing any huge, obvious features that make you go Wow. I'd almost say tasteful design rather than gaudy or something like that (and I'm one who likes gaudy course features as much as the next geek).
Oh, and the heather is easy to find your ball in but don't assume it will be easy to play your ball out of. Choosing to take unplayable lie relief at a stroke penalty can show good discretion if the drop will leave you out of the heather. I'm just sayin'...
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Pre-Buda Golf at DEAL: I am going to be in Deal the Saturday and Sunday before the Buda (Sept 24-25). Any and all are welcome. Planning to play 36 on Saturday and 18 on Sunday morning. Let me know if you would like to join us and I'll work out the details.
Tony - Ken F is Ken FIELDS.
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Bill
I am a team player, so I will go where you want or need me. I had initially expressed an interest in playing Woking on Tuesday the 27th. Since then I have been told I should play Walton Heath(Old), because it is better than Woking. In fact without knowing the accessibility of either or the price, I have recently emailed the Secretary at Walton Heath. I have not yet heard back.
Do you know anything about either or have you played either? Anyone who wants to express a thought, it will be welcomed.
I haven't played either, Lynn.
So many courses, so little time!
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Lynn,
It's a tough one. A very tough one. They are very different golf courses with very different attractions.
Walton Heath (Old) is a "better" course, but Woking is more charming.
Walton Heath is bunkered impeccibly, but Woking has an incredible set of greens.
Walton Heath is an open heath, Woking is more tree-lined with less heather (but still a decent amount).
In the end, the greater proximity of Woking to Heathrow and the area you'll then be travelling to for the Buda Cup would have me suggest that it's the better bet.
Woking has the best set of greens I saw on the Heathlands, great variety and a few examples of genius bunkering, especially the way a single greenfront bunker does the job at 3 and 11.
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Lynn,
I'd strongly recommend a day at Walton Heath over Woking. I'm an outlier in not really understanding the high regard most have for Woking so my recommendation may be suspect. However, the history and atmosphere at WH, especially after the massive tree clearing they did several years ago, make it an essential stop, imo. They also have a great lunch which sets nicely between rounds on the old and new.
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Lynn,
I've played WH Old and Woking. Either would be a great choice. I would give the nod to WH if only because you should see the charming little putting green outside of the clubhouse before they make changes to the course.
Worth noting, though, that Woking is about £55 cheaper.
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Anymore thoughts on pre or post BUDA games? I will be at Deal on the Sunday before but work and a wedding means nothing else possible.
Spangles
No, I can't make a 9-10 am start on Friday so count me out. I am hoping to play an afternoon game and Saturday and Sunday AM if stuff is going on. I know Eric is interested in St Georges Hill. Is there anything happening the weekend prior?
Ciao
Sean,
I had hoped to add on one last round after we wrap up on Friday and SGH would be sweet - but I'm thinking now I'll likely pack up the clubs and ride the train in to London to visit my sister's boyfriend, take in some sites and log some pub time with him before I fly home on Saturday.
Fair enough Eric.
Lynn
Both WH (either course) and Woking are well worth seeing. I prefer Woking and would suggest it over WH (if you are playing the Old) if only because changes are coming and you will then have seen a no longer existing course. I spose seeing it would carry a certain cache if the design were original, but that isn't the case. Much of the decision depends on if you want to spend the considerably more money to play WH and if you want to play the brawnier WH compared to a more gentle Woking. I would say that five years ago I thought WH obviously the better course, but now I am not convinced. Woking has an undeniable appeal which I cannot believe is all down to the oft labeled charm tag.
Ciao
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Brian,
Glad to see you add The Berkshire (though the Blue is also worth a mention), I'm puzzled that it always gets left out of these lists. In fact I think the Red may be the perfect place for a game after a long flight. Not too testing to a par of 72 but plenty of length if you want to really test yourself and try to make a good score.
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I hold my hand up and admit that I was the one who recommended Lynn play Walton Heath over Woking. But I was really only using WH arbitrarily as one of a number of unmissable courses around London and also in light of the fact Lynn is playing another similarly intimate / charming / less brawny course in that vicinity during his stay.
I suppose what we should really ask Lynn is: where haven't you played in London? If you haven't played Sunningdale Old, Swinley or St George's Hill (all have more of a Woking style but admittedly are grander), then unquestionably those should be your priority. I am also adding in Walton Heath but you've already had that discussion plus it has a lot of similarities with Hankley so I wouldn't mind so much if you. I am working on the basis that cost isn't an issue though - if it is, that's a totally different story.
Sean, Scott - would you not agree that Woking has a couple of total dud holes? There also seems to me to be a clear disparity between the Front and the Back nines - but I have only played once so maybe I need a few more gos.
SWAG
No, I don't think Woking has any dud holes. I am not enamoured with the 9th, but its toughness is a welcome element. I know many don't llike #s 16 and 17, but each are good holes and 17 is particularly good with a throw back green. My bigger issues are with the back to back par 5s at 14 and 15. I would gladly break these up by starting on #15 as #1 even though there is an awkward walk involved. An added benefit to this is the golfer would be properly tuned to play the current 1st as the 5th.
Ciao
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I am a new addition and looking to join up for some Pre Buda Golf on Monday and Tuesday. I will be sans auto so looking to throw in with someone, splitting expenses of course. also accomadations for sunday , Monday and Tuesday.
also for Tony and organizers I am 7.6 CONGU.
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7.6, Stan?! You've obviously been scoring more than the 36pts we could count on you signing for last May. Good playing!
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Senior medals from the yellows at Dornoch versus Regular competitions from the whites make a difference.
Had a good run lately including an ace at the 10th at Dornoch with Whitty as a witness. ;D
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Seriously? Congratulations!
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Senior medals from the yellows at Dornoch versus Regular competitions from the whites make a difference.
Had a good run lately including an ace at the 10th at Dornoch with Whitty as a witness. ;D
Unbelievable, a double eagle! ;D
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With regard to my Tuesday afternoon, pre-Buda plans, it's on to plan B. Woking has a charity event that day (Sept 27th, our arrival day) and the course is closed to outside visitors until 3 p.m. :(
So in need of another plan, will email with Lynn and see what he's learned about Walton Heath. I'm not all that interested in paying the nick at Sunningdale, what is it these days?
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Senior medals from the yellows at Dornoch versus Regular competitions from the whites make a difference.
Had a good run lately including an ace at the 10th at Dornoch with Whitty as a witness. ;D
It was a beautiful shot, too. Soft draw, touched down short of the hole, then disappeared like a mouse!.Fabulous!
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Bill,
Pity Woking is unavailable.
It's a bit of a drive from Heathrow, but I'd suggest The Addington as worthy of a game. And it'll only cost £50 or so.
West Sussex is fantastic, but a bit of a shlep from Heathrow. If you were flying into Gatwick it'd be a no-brainer.
As an arrival day loosener, it's hard to think you could do better than New Zealand. There are many things that are great about heathland golf and NZ has most of them in spades.
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Bill,
Pity Woking is unavailable.
It's a bit of a drive from Heathrow, but I'd suggest The Addington as worthy of a game. And it'll only cost £50 or so.
West Sussex is fantastic, but a bit of a shlep from Heathrow. If you were flying into Gatwick it'd be a no-brainer.
As an arrival day loosener, it's hard to think you could do better than New Zealand. There are many things that are great about heathland golf and NZ has most of them in spades.
NZ is on for the Monday after Buda.
How far is Walton Heath? Costs, other thoughts?
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West Hill is £70, Worplesdon £80. We could also do Hindhead at £70 or West Sussex at the same price, but the latter is 1.5 hours driving from Heathrow (although only 45 minutes from there to BUDA headquarters).
Has Fowler's West Surrey been mentioned? It seems to be the bargain of the lot at £60.
Walton Heath is something of a compromise driving-wise, being about 45 minutes from Heathrow as well as BUDA HQ. However, you're taking in a good part of the London ring, so there may be traffic problems.
Ulrich
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Walton Heath - Old or New?
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I would not be so rash as to suggest I might play, but I might well come down to watch some of this and to re-visit some old favourite courses. I don't need accommodation. I might, however, play in a pre- or post- friendly if needed to make up numbers. I can't commit definitely at this stage as I don't yet know what my teaching schedule is for next term.
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For BUDA fans whilst the big names maybe a draw Royal Ashdown Forest, West Sussex and New Zealand are perfect as is trip to see Laura!
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I would not be so rash as to suggest I might play, but I might well come down to watch some of this and to re-visit some old favourite courses. I don't need accommodation. I might, however, play in a pre- or post- friendly if needed to make up numbers. I can't commit definitely at this stage as I don't yet know what my teaching schedule is for next term.
I hope you can make it Mark, first BUDA visit since Alwoodley? You've been missed.
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One of our players has canceled, leaving us with an open slot. We have 24 but with 2 preferring to play on 18 on the 36-hole days, we can take another. If anyone has been following this thread and wishes to sign up, you know what to do.
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Messrs Shackleford, Buehler and McBride still need a fourth to play in a foursomes match at Walton Heath (Old) on Tuesday, Sept 27th. Lunch followed by golf at 1:30 p.m.
See Drinkin' Joe Buehler and McBride fight off jet lag and overnight flight fatigue!
A jacket is required for lunch but can be worn with a golf shirt, no tie required.
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Craig
You can put me down as interested for afternoon games on the Wednesday and Thursday, but I wouldn't commit until late in the day if still needed.
I am hoping to join some post Buda weekend games or possibly pre Buda weekend games. Is anythng settled yet?
Ciao
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Craig
You can put me down as interested for afternoon games on the Wednesday and Thursday, but I wouldn't commit until late in the day if still needed.
I am hoping to join some post Buda weekend games or possibly pre Buda weekend games. Is anythng settled yet?
Ciao
Sean - I'll be in Deal on the Saturday and Sunday before the Buda. Ken Fields, a friend from SC, will be with me. We are playing 36 on Saturday and 18 on Sunday. Ulrich is planning to join us on Sunday. I'll work on lining up another member or two if you want to join us on Saturday and/or Sunday. I've booked the dormey flat (downstairs for two ;)) but can reserve the upstairs if you want to stay over... that is, assuming our R&A friend (the obnoxious dwarf?) has not decided to take up residency. ;D
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Whitty - thanks for the offer. I just may take you up on it in the hope of bumping into Tuco - though I suspect I may have to duck under his left hook. PLease give me a warning if you see it coming before I do.
Paulie and I were just having a laugh (in a most respectful way you understand - tee hee) about that incident on the way back from Alwoodley. I like your obnoxious drawf description of the man I never met nor gained a good view of. Everything seemed to pass around and under me like a tidal wave at sea.
Ciao
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Announcing the Captains for this year's match - for the US, Bill McBride; ROW - Peter Mallalieu. Behind Peter's calm exterior is a steely competitive streak so we'll have to watch his maneuvers carefully.
I think we're still one player short - but no matter. We'll adjust the sides appropriately and probably add a local member to fill in if needed.
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Announcing the Captains for this year's match - for the US, Bill McBride; ROW - Peter Mallalieu. Behind Peter's calm exterior is a steely competitive streak so we'll have to watch his maneuvers carefully.
I think we're still one player short - but no matter. We'll adjust the sides appropriately and probably add a local member to fill in if needed.
After a succession of shellackings, the US side will have to have a few tricks up its collective sleeve. I will be consulting with assistant captains Disher and Whitty to figure what the hell these tricks might be.
It will be a pleasure facing Captain Mallalieu.
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Congratulations Bill
An experienced golfer, an experienced international player. Even with a tiny rental car, I have no doubt he will perform his duties brilliantly.
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Best of luck to the captains and Bill you just have to hold up the side. The Cup proper must be "protected" from Peter's desire to protect, clean, de-dent, repair, or otherwise improve!
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Best of luck to the captains and Bill you just have to hold up the side. The Cup proper must be "protected" from Peter's desire to protect, clean, de-dent, repair, or otherwise improve!
Mark, are you clearing your calendar to join us? We could use your droll wit and international experience.
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Home and the Far East have primary and secondary claims this year. Thanks for the thought, Bill.
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Home and the Far East have primary and secondary claims this year. Thanks for the thought, Bill.
Maybe next year!
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As we are now less than a month away, and especially after Brian's teaser of Liphook http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,49554.0.html I thought I'd bump this one to see how everyone is getting on...
Firstly, Congratulations to Captains Mallalieu and McBride!
Secondly, how are the teams working out? I count 9 USA v 14 GB&I. Does this mean a switch to GB&I v Rest of the World at all?
Lastly, how are everyone's plans for pre and post Buda golf working out?
Looking forward to it!
Cheers,
James
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I'm playing in Deal on Sunday and at Hankley on Tuesday (so as to not miss any holes, seeing that we play all foursomes at BUDA). I'm still open for suggestions for Monday.
Ulrich
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Given its very close proximity, low cost (£50 for 18, £30 twilight after 4) and excellent quality, I would highly recommend Blackmoor for any gaps - it is only about 5-10 miles from Hankley or Liphook, as is Hindhead. Have a great Buda.
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Agree with Paul, Blackmoor is excellent, a good antidote of Colt seriousness versus some of the Simpson quirck at Liphook. Both have great heather and great par 3's
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It appears the Buda is short one player, and there will have to be some give and take on composition of the sides if we are to be 12 vs 12.
We need someone to step up and be that 24th player!
Craig, could you post the current rosters? Thanks.
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Bill I'll try and do that tomorrow. There are ways of getting equal no's so we won’t have any problems , but Yes we can squeeze one more in.
I’m off on holiday next weekend but I’ll send out an email to participants before I go. If you’ve never had an email from me in the past it would be very useful to get an IM now with your contact details on it.
Unless the next 3 weeks bring lots of poor weather I can report that heathland courses are in A1 condition at the moment. Fairways with alight brown tinge, greens hard, heather blooming; what more can a grown man want?
Paul, sadly Blackmoor has no availability either Fri PM or at the weekend, but yes it's on "my little list".
See Stoneham and Sean’s rating earlier in the thread if anyone is still looking for a weekend venue. Wonderful track.
Ulrich as a detour from Deal to Hankley can I suggest Royal ASShdown Forrest. Now if only someone had some photos's ;)
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Tony, have you tried Tandridge? They might be able to accomodate you
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The full roster can be accessed from the first post in the thread - "Registration Information."
We have 24 players - 10 US and 14 GBI. I think Bill and Peter should negotiate a fair reassignment of a couple of the GBIs.
A few have said they won't be available for the full Buda Cup so we'll have to reduce matches or fill in with local players. I know that the Liphook member who was so helpful in arranging our visit would be interested in playing if he's around.
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The full roster can be accessed from the first post in the thread - "Registration Information."
We have 24 players - 10 US and 14 GBI. I think Bill and Peter should negotiate a fair reassignment of a couple of the GBIs.
A few have said they won't be available for the full Buda Cup so we'll have to reduce matches or fill in with local players. I know that the Liphook member who was so helpful in arranging our visit would be interested in playing if he's around.
Captain Bill
Always a team player, if needed I can play Thursday A.M. I had previously indicated a desire to rest that A.M. After playing 36 on Wednesday I thought the U.S. would probably be so far in front that a bit of coasting would be possible.
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Looking at the spreadsheet, there are some missing handicaps and/or indexes. Could you please check the spreadsheet (top of page 1) and post your current number so Captain Mallieu and I can start thinking about pairings. Thanks.
For the USA players, please anyone with whom you would like to pair up. or not, as the case may be.
And if anyone has any ideas how we can reconcile UK CONGU handicaps with US GHIN handicaps for best matches, I would appreciate some advice. (Will be helpful in trying to bring home the Cup for a change.)
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The full roster can be accessed from the first post in the thread - "Registration Information."
We have 24 players - 10 US and 14 GBI. I think Bill and Peter should negotiate a fair reassignment of a couple of the GBIs.
A few have said they won't be available for the full Buda Cup so we'll have to reduce matches or fill in with local players. I know that the Liphook member who was so helpful in arranging our visit would be interested in playing if he's around.
Captain Bill
Always a team player, if needed I can play Thursday A.M. I had previously indicated a desire to rest that A.M. After playing 36 on Wednesday I thought the U.S. would probably be so far in front that a bit of coasting would be possible.
We'll get you to post up against Jim Goby that morning. A little Buda humor.
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Bill,
To aid you and Captain Mallieu, my current handicap has just crept back up to 6 and I'm planning on playing all 3 days.
And if anyone has any ideas how we can reconcile UK CONGU handicaps with US GHIN handicaps for best matches, I would appreciate some advice. (Will be helpful in trying to bring home the Cup for a change.)
I believe the proper procedure, is to discuss it at length, come up with plenty of theories, some whacky, some sensible, debate it a little more, and the GB&I win! ;) A little Buda banter to get us going...
Cheers,
James
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Bill,
To aid you and Captain Mallieu, my current handicap has just crept back up to 6 and I'm planning on playing all 3 days.
And if anyone has any ideas how we can reconcile UK CONGU handicaps with US GHIN handicaps for best matches, I would appreciate some advice. (Will be helpful in trying to bring home the Cup for a change.)
I believe the proper procedure, is to discuss it at length, come up with plenty of theories, some whacky, some sensible, debate it a little more, and the GB&I win! ;) A little Buda banter to get us going...
Cheers,
James
Unfortunately that's the path we have been following, which may account for the consistently poor results for Team USA. We even tried mixing in some alcohol, to poor effect.
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Bill,
Mr. Fields and I are carrying 11 shots each.
As for the USGA indexes... you just need to estimate a Slope Rating for the courses and look up the handicaps on the appropriate chart. Here is a link to a complete listing of slope charts: http://wsga.org/uploadedFiles/WSGARoot/About_Us/WSGA_Forms/slope_charts.pdf
Have fun!!!
Mike
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Bill,
Mr. Fields and I are carrying 11 shots each.
As for the USGA indexes... you just need to estimate a Slope Rating for the courses and look up the handicaps on the appropriate chart. Here is a link to a complete listing of slope charts: http://wsga.org/uploadedFiles/WSGARoot/About_Us/WSGA_Forms/slope_charts.pdf
Have fun!!!
Mike
[sotto voce mumble] Must delegate this stuff.........
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As far as pre-BUDA golf, three of us (Giles, Conrad and I) have a morning time at West Hill on the Tuesday. In the afternoon we shall be joined by Messrs Goodale and Dickson and have two tee times. Room for one more in the morning, up to three in the afternoon.
As to USGHIN handicaps we can do all the maths we like. Or just add 10%.
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As far as pre-BUDA golf, three of us (Giles, Conrad and I) have a morning time at West Hill on the Tuesday. In the afternoon we shall be joined by Messrs Goodale and Dickson and have two tee times. Room for one more in the morning, up to three in the afternoon.
As to USGHIN handicaps we can do all the maths we like. Or just add 10%.
I counter 20%.
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Captain McBride,
Add another 10 points for the home field advantage and round up- us Yanks don't have a clue about playing the ball on the ground- and we're getting close. Mike at 11 + 30% = 14.3, rounded to 15 is fair, and you can pencil me in as his partner in a four ball.
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Captain McBride,
Add another 10 points for the home field advantage and round up- us Yanks don't have a clue about playing the ball on the ground- and we're getting close. Mike at 11 + 30% = 14.3, rounded to 15 is fair, and you can pencil me in as his partner in a four ball.
Taken under advisement.
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Captain McBride,
Add another 10 points for the home field advantage and round up- us Yanks don't have a clue about playing the ball on the ground- and we're getting close. Mike at 11 + 30% = 14.3, rounded to 15 is fair, and you can pencil me in as his partner in a four ball.
Now that's just getting silly. And I haven't forgotten the whipping you handed out to me and the African Animal last year. You need no more shots that that hooky Texan (?) handicap.
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Captain McBride,
Add another 10 points for the home field advantage and round up- us Yanks don't have a clue about playing the ball on the ground- and we're getting close. Mike at 11 + 30% = 14.3, rounded to 15 is fair, and you can pencil me in as his partner in a four ball.
Now that's just getting silly. And I haven't forgotten the whipping you handed out to me and the African Animal last year. You need no more shots that that hooky Texan (?) handicap.
Sir,
You must have me confused with someone else. Said "African Animal" won't have anything to do with me for reasons unknown to me, but possibly having to do with my unusual attempt at good manners by suggesting that we might play the forward tees when I hosted him near Dallas years ago. If memory serves, it was you and your brother Conrad who gave Craig and me the thrashing. Well deservedly, I might add.
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If you want to settle this issue once and for all, I can get that done for BUDA 2012 :)
I have written a program (you can download it under http://www.golfcv.de) that can calculate EGA, USGA and CONGU handicaps from your scores. More importantly, the program can also generate mass data for statistical analysis. With a little tweaking I could let it generate tens of thousands of rounds that would be typical for golfers of various playing abilities and then compare the calculated handicaps.
Come to think of it, I could even put golfers against each other in match play and calculate fair stroke allowances. But I think CONGU has already done that :)
My own handicap, for BUDA purposes, is 14.6 (EGA system).
Ulrich
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My own handicap, for BUDA purposes, is 14.6 (EGA system).
Ulrich
Only if you are assigned to the proposed ROW team. Then it will be fine.
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Would all the Budas please check the registration spreadsheet at the top of page 1 of this thread?
Please send me an email or IM to provide or verify your (alleged) handicap, and let me know which rounds you might not be playing. Hard to believe but we are less than three weeks out!
The captains have agreed to make the teams 12-12 by changing the USA side to Rest of the World, assigning Philip and Ulrich to ROW. Welcome aboard!
Look forward to seeing everyone soon!
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Bill
I am playing all rounds (as I believe that Conra an Mark are) an my hanicap is 12 (11.5 rounded up).
Very much looking forward to this.
Giles
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Bill,
My information remains accurate, save that my handicap has gone out to 13.0 (which, with Lou's 30%, makes me 16.9, that is how it's supposed to work, isn't it?).
Mark
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Bill,
My information remains accurate, save that my handicap has gone out to 13.0 (which, with Lou's 30%, makes me 16.9, that is how it's supposed to work, isn't it?).
Mark
Only for ROW.
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Not long now!
Gentlemen can you please bring CASH and pay either Craig or I on your first day. Receipts will be given. (Cheques made out to the clubs in Sterling will also be accepted.)
There's £245 to pay for all 3 days less the deposit you've already sent. This covers Golf and Food at the club as per the first post on this thread.
Deposit Depending on the currency you paid in and when your money was transferred, yours is worth either £91, £95 or £100 - a full account will be available on the day.
As we have society rates you pay by the day irrespective of whether you play one round or two or only take part of the catering on offer.
I’ve sent out an email to those address I have. Liphook have asked us to preselect our food and we need a volunteer to forward the menu and collate the results. As I’m off on a two week holiday tomorrow, I’m now out of here as they say.
I can’t figure how to manipulate the spreadsheet on the first page so I should confess now to a current handicap of 12.2.
If the Captains can be swayed I’d love to partner Jim Goby again. He was my first ever Foursomes partner at Hoylake of all places. We’re currently unbeaten.
Finally, many, many thanks to Craig for making this happen.
Yes indeed I’m excited.
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Would all the Budas please send me an email or an IM with their lunch/dinner choices for Thursday at Liphook. The club needs the info a week before so if you don't respond by the end of next week (9/18), someone else may make your decision for you - or you could get a random draw.
If anyone would like to bring a guest to the dinner, they're very welcome to do so. The additional cost would be 28GBP.
Lunch choices:
(A) Ham, Egg & Chips
(B) Cumberland Sausage, Mashed Potato & Onion Gravy
(C) Jacket Potato & Salad (Various fillings)
(D) Ham or Cheese Ploughman’s
Dinner choices:
Starter:
(A) Soup of the Day
(B) Prawn Cocktail
(C) Smoked Fish Platter
(D) Melon & Parma Ham
(E) Egg Mayonnaise
(F) Chicken Liver Pate
Main:
(A) Steak & Mushroom Pie
(B) Stuffed Fillet of Chicken
(C) Fillet of Salmon with a Herb Crust
(D) Braised Shank of Lamb
(E) Homemade Curry (Medium) & Rice
(F) Vegetarian selection
Dessert:
(A) Fruit Crumble & Custard
(B) Apple Pie
(C) Raspberry Pavlova
(D) Chocolate Fudge Cake
(E) Bread & Butter Pudding
(F) Chocolate Mousse
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Handicap now 11!
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I somehow played off 17 at Pine Valley but came back to 12 at National and shot 79 so call me 14! ;)
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I somehow played off 17 at Pine Valley but came back to 12 at National and shot 79 so call me 14! ;)
Curious how a "foreigner" can get invited to our best while most of us domestics can't even sniff the gate! I've been waiting for Redanman's late season invite for nearly 10 years. Like with my golf game, an exercise in futility and false hope.
Captain McBride,
My info on the worksheet is fine. Goodale giving me 4 shots is about right unless he has been back on the tour in Scotland. My last match was at Bandon; the results were entirely forgettable.
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Liphook will only offer a single choice for lunch and each dinner course. Given that, I suggest that these be our choices:
Lunch - Ploughman's (choice of either ham or cheese)
Dinner (trying to follow majority selections)
Starter - melon and parma ham
Main - cold fork buffet
Dessert - bread and butter pudding (will request that a fruit salad be available as an alternate)
Unless there is concerted opposition - or a better idea (e.g. the Main course offers a carvery but only with one cut of meat - roast beef, lamb, ham) - we'll inform Liphook of these choices.
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Liphook will only offer a single choice for lunch and each dinner course. Given that, I suggest that these be our choices:
Lunch - Ploughman's (choice of either ham or cheese)
Dinner (trying to follow majority selections)
Starter - melon and parma ham
Main - cold fork buffet
Dessert - bread and butter pudding (will request that a fruit salad be available as an alternate)
Unless there is concerted opposition - or a better idea (e.g. the Main course offers a carvery but only with one cut of meat - roast beef, lamb, ham) - we'll inform Liphook of these choices.
I don't see "cold fork buffet" as one of the six choices.
But I'm sure it will be excellent when accompanied a few glasses of Chateau Liphook claret. ;D
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I'd normally laugh at the suggestion that Chappers should be a 14 but in a world where Goodale is claiming 8 and Lou Duran is being offerred 12, perhaps that's on the low side.....
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COLD FORK BUFFET !!!!!!!!!!!
We don't even get a warm meal ????
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I'd normally laugh at the suggestion that Chappers should be a 14 but in a world where Goodale is claiming 8 and Lou Duran is being offerred 12, perhaps that's on the low side.....
Lou is 10, Rich's CONGU is 8, Chappers is 12. Thus speaketh the Poobah.
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COLD FORK BUFFET !!!!!!!!!!!
We don't even get a warm meal ????
Hopefully the food is warm and just the fork is cold.
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COLD FORK BUFFET !!!!!!!!!!!
We don't even get a warm meal ????
Hopefully the food is warm and just the fork is cold.
I'm still waiting for word from the club but I think the cold fork buffet is a cold buffet - possibly poached salmon and cold sliced meats. The alternative is a carvery with either roast beef, lamb, ham, pork or turkey (we would choose only one). I'm happy with either but highlighted the buffet since I thought there would be a variety - fish and meat - rather than just a single option. Send me your preference and we can go with the majority.
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Variety - in golf and food :)
Ulrich
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Speaking of variety and since Google quotes me 45 minutes from BUDA HQ:
Hayling on Monday, the 26th?
Ulrich
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Captains Peter Mallalieu (GB&I) and Bill McBride (ROW) are pleased to announce the first day's pairings for Buda
Cup IX.
(UK handicaps are CONGU, American handicaps are based on GHIN indexes extrapolated to 125 slope plus the 10% equalizing adjustment proposed by attorney Mark Pearce.)
Wednesday morning foursomes matches, commencing at 8:30 at Hankley Common:
1. Ran Morrissett (9) and Joe Andriole (3) vs. Ian Dixon (5) and Tony Muldoon (13)
2. Lou Duran (10) and Ken Fields (12) vs. James Boon (5) and Conrad Gamble (12)
3. Lynn Shackelford (6) and Joe Buehler (9) vs. Ben Stephens (5) and Jim Goby (16)
4. Bill McBride (16) and Ulrich Mayring (14) vs. Mark Pearce (13) and Robin Hiseman (10)
5. Richard Goodale (eight) vs. Giles Payne (11) - front nine, and Mark Chaplin (12) - back nine
6. Mike Whitaker (13) and Craig Disher (15) vs. Tim Harris (14) and Peter Mallalieu (15)
Wednesday afternoon four ball best ball matches, commencing at 2:30 or earlier
1. Ran Morrissett (9) and Lynn Shackelford (6) vs. James Boon (5) & Conrad Gamble (12)
2. Lou Duran (10) and Joe Buehler (9) vs. Robin Hiseman (10) & Tony Muldoon (13)
3. Michael Whitaker (13) and Ken Fields (12) vs. Giles Payne (11) & Mark Pearce (13)
4. Joe Andriole (3) and Richard Goodale (eight) vs. Ian Dickson (5) & Ben Stephens (5)
5. Craig Disher (15) and Ulrich Mayring (14) vs. Tim Harris (14) & Mark Chaplin (12)
Let the games begin!
Pairings for Thursday will be drawn in the bar at the end of the day Wednesday.
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Bill,
I'm delighted that the committee is sufficiently confident of my play on Wednesday morning to cut me for the afternoon. Do Robin and I get the point now, or do we actually have to play for it?
No doubt we can discuss during the afternoon round.
Mark
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Bill,
I'm delighted that the committee is sufficiently confident of my play on Wednesday morning to cut me for the afternoon. Do Robin and I get the point now, or do we actually have to play for it?
No doubt we can discuss during the afternoon round.
Mark
Whoops, error corrected.
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Match 5 in the morning is one I'd pay to see. If Chappers and Giles swapped round themn Mark would get a shot at the par 3 SI4 7th hole, which Giles wouldn't get. I may have a word with Captain Mallalieu.
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Match 5 in the morning is one I'd pay to see. If Chappers and Giles swapped round themn Mark would get a shot at the par 3 SI4 7th hole, which Giles wouldn't get. I may have a word with Captain Mallalieu.
Think again, sir. Giles gets 1-1/2 shots in nine holes, Chappers 2.
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Captains Peter Mallalieu (GB&I) and Bill McBride (ROW) are pleased to announce the first day's pairings for Buda
Cup IX.
(UK handicaps are CONGU, American handicaps are based on GHIN indexes extrapolated to 125 slope plus the 10% equalizing adjustment proposed by attorney Mark Pearce.)
Wednesday morning foursomes matches, commencing at 8:30 at Hankley Common:
1. Ran Morrissett (9) and Joe Andriole (3) vs. Ian Dixon (5) and Tony Muldoon (13)
2. Lou Duran (10) and Ken Fields (12) vs. James Boon (5) and Conrad Gamble (12)
3. Lynn Shackelford (6) and Joe Buehler (9) vs. Ben Stephens (5) and Jim Goby (16)
4. Bill McBride (16) and Ulrich Mayring (14) vs. Mark Pearce (13) and Robin Hiseman (10)
5. Richard Goodale (eight) vs. Giles Payne (11) - front nine, and Mark Chaplin (12) - back nine
6. Mike Whitaker (13) and Craig Disher (15) vs. Tim Harris (14) and Peter Mallalieu (15)
Wednesday afternoon four ball best ball matches, commencing at 2:30 or earlier
1. Ran Morrissett (9) and Lynn Shackelford (6) vs. James Boon (5) & Conrad Gamble (12)
2. Lou Duran (10) and Joe Buehler (9) vs. Robin Hiseman (10) & Tony Muldoon (13)
3. Michael Whitaker (13) and Ken Fields (12) vs. Giles Payne (11) & Mark Pearce (13)
4. Joe Andriole (3) and Richard Goodale (eight) vs. Ian Dickson (5) & Ben Stephens (5)
5. Craig Disher (15) and Ulrich Mayring (14) vs. Tim Harris (14) & Mark Chaplin (12)
Let the games begin!
Pairings for Thursday will be drawn in the bar at the end of the day Wednesday.
This is a beautiful thing, Bill. Kudos to you and Cpt. Mallalieu for your efforts!
My best wishes to all of you for what is bound to be a great time.
Cheers!
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Eric, wish you were coming, but sell lots of mattresses!
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Gentlemen,
The Buda???? The 21st century's answer to Bernardo and Rye?
Being a neophyte I am not privy to all of the glorious history of this august forum. Given this could someone in the inner circle explain to me the origin of the moniker applied to this almost venerable competition.
I have visions of rotund, portly chaps reflecting, long and hard, on the days round(s) but this is only because I conflate the Buda and Buddha!
Have a terrific time.
Cheers Colin
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Gentlemen,
The Buda???? The 21st century's answer to Bernardo and Rye?
Being a neophyte I am not privy to all of the glorious history of this august forum. Given this could someone in the inner circle explain to me the origin of the moniker applied to this almost venerable competition.
I have visions of rotund, portly chaps reflecting, long and hard, on the days round(s) but this is only because I conflate the Buda and Buddha!
Have a terrific time.
Cheers Colin
Colin, the battered trophy was found in a dusty antique shop in Budapest, on the Buda side, in a dimly lit back room.....
The event is an annual match play event, usually around 12 vs 12, mostly GCAers. This year we're at Hankley Common and Liphook, two heathland courses south of London. Three days, five matches a la the Ryder Cup.
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I always enjoy the pre-Buda handicap wrangling!
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Bill/Craig
Would it be a good idea to co-ordinate the kit colours so that the teams look more like teams - i.e for the first day GB & I wear white shirts and the ROW wear black shirts (if everyone has one!) then different colours for the next two days.
Look forward taking on Drinkin' Joe again!!!
Cheers
Ben
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Bill/Craig
Would it be a good idea to co-ordinate the kit colours so that the teams look more like teams - i.e for the first day GB & I wear white shirts and the ROW wear black shirts (if everyone has one!) then different colours for the next two days.
Look forward taking on Drinkin' Joe again!!!
Cheers
Ben
You're kidding, right? ;D
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I think Ben's on to something. On day 1 GB&I could all wear yellow trousers and green shirts. We can take it from there......
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I think Ben's on to something. On day 1 GB&I could all wear yellow trousers and green shirts. We can take it from there......
Mark
Any type of trousers will suffice - brightly coloured or textured in tribute of Wardo who will be missing this year!
All I am suggesting is to coordinate the shirt colours.
Cheers
Ben
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Short of wearing a dress, anything is fine with me to differentiate the forces of good (ROW) from evil. On the other hand, maybe I should don a mini-skirt so there is no confusion as to why my driver works like a weak 5-iron.
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UK handicaps are CONGU, American handicaps are based on GHIN indexes extrapolated to 125 slope plus the 10% equalizing adjustment
Hm, as someone sporting neither a CONGU nor a USGA handicap, what's my deal? I find it mathematically offending to have my 14.6 cut to 14, especially since I'm playing like an 18 - I am calling upon the honorable Mark Pearce to testify to that :)
In my experience the EGA handicaps fall somewhere in-between CONGU and USGA, so put me in there with Captain McBride at 16 and all is well :)
Ulrich
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Short of wearing a dress, anything is fine with me to differentiate the forces of good (ROW) from evil. On the other hand, maybe I should don a mini-skirt so there is no confusion as to why my driver works like a weak 5-iron.
Lou,
It would be interesting to see you challenging Hankley/Liphook Golf Clubs on the dress code re: mini skirts!!
Cheers
Ben
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Hooray! It's taken 3 BUDA's but I'm finally going to get a game with Bill McBride!
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Hooray! It's taken 3 BUDA's but I'm finally going to get a game with Bill McBride!
You won't have a problem, I took a lesson Saturday! ;D But yes, I am looking forward to it.
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Short of wearing a dress, anything is fine with me to differentiate the forces of good (ROW) from evil. On the other hand, maybe I should don a mini-skirt so there is no confusion as to why my driver works like a weak 5-iron.
Lou,
It would be interesting to see you challenging Hankley/Liphook Golf Clubs on the dress code re: mini skirts!!
Cheers
Ben
I am not one to challenge the traditions and sensibilities of fine English clubs distilled through many decades. Besides, my vericose veins and Simian features would frighten the ladies and children.
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Did Stan Dodd bail? I was looking forward to seeing the Shield's winner.
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UK handicaps are CONGU, American handicaps are based on GHIN indexes extrapolated to 125 slope plus the 10% equalizing adjustment
Hm, as someone sporting neither a CONGU nor a USGA handicap, what's my deal? I find it mathematically offending to have my 14.6 cut to 14, especially since I'm playing like an 18 - I am calling upon the honorable Mark Pearce to testify to that :)
In my experience the EGA handicaps fall somewhere in-between CONGU and USGA, so put me in there with Captain McBride at 16 and all is well :)
Ulrich
After your performance at Deal and RSG in Buda 7, the UK guys were pushing for 10. 14 seems a reasonable compromise. ;)
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Based on the pairings I have the ROW up 8-3 after the first day. McBride - I suggest you go with this approach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Msi4XLDrP4&feature=player_detailpage
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After your performance at Deal and RSG in Buda 7, the UK guys were pushing for 10. 14 seems a reasonable compromise.
I took some lessons since then ;-)
Ulrich
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After your performance at Deal and RSG in Buda 7, the UK guys were pushing for 10. 14 seems a reasonable compromise.
I took some lessons since then ;-)
Ulrich
;D ;D
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ROW 8-3 up on the pairings! How do you make that out?
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It pains me to read this thread. Wish I was able to make it this year.
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ROW 8-3 up on the pairings! How do you make that out?
Keen insight from playing with about 2/3rds of the participants and observed their ability to recover from dinner the night before. If I were playing I would predict 9-2.
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ROW 8-3 up on the pairings! How do you make that out?
Keen insight from playing with about 2/3rds of the participants and observed their ability to recover from dinner the night before. If I were playing I would predict 9-2.
An insight based on last year's dominant performance by the USA team?
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ROW 8-3 up on the pairings! How do you make that out?
Keen insight from playing with about 2/3rds of the participants and observed their ability to recover from dinner the night before. If I were playing I would predict 9-2.
An insight based on last year's dominant performance by the USA team?
I recall we were destroyed. Whitaker was begging to change the format so we would still have a chance the last round.
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Based on the pairings I have the ROW up 8-3 after the first day. McBride - I suggest you go with this approach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Msi4XLDrP4&feature=player_detailpage
I have a feeling about this, hesitate to say if it's good yet. But thanks for helping us with the slagging.............
Alas poor Mayhugh. :'(
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Based on the pairings I have the ROW up 8-3 after the first day. McBride - I suggest you go with this approach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Msi4XLDrP4&feature=player_detailpage
I have a feeling about this, hesitate to say if it's good yet. But thanks for helping us with the slagging.............
Alas poor Mayhugh. :'(
Capt. Bill,
I don't know how I can put any positive spin on my last 5 rounds (81, 89, 89, 85, 85), but I may have found something in the range yesterday AND my bad ankle is feeling better. Hopefully this sliver of optimism won't be dashed by my round on a Dye course this afternoon. In preparation for what awaits us, I'm planning on pulling a trolley. Report and final handicap "adjustments" to follow.
Poor Mayhugh? Do you know what he's been up to? Probably sampling the finest in Long Island or Carmel for all we know.
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Based on the pairings I have the ROW up 8-3 after the first day. McBride - I suggest you go with this approach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Msi4XLDrP4&feature=player_detailpage
I have a feeling about this, hesitate to say if it's good yet. But thanks for helping us with the slagging.............
Alas poor Mayhugh. :'(
Capt. Bill,
I don't know how I can put any positive spin on my last 5 rounds (81, 89, 89, 85, 85), but I may have found something in the range yesterday AND my bad ankle is feeling better. Hopefully this sliver of optimism won't be dashed by my round on a Dye course this afternoon. In preparation for what awaits us, I'm planning on pulling a trolley. Report and final handicap "adjustments" to follow.
Poor Mayhugh? Do you know what he's been up to? Probably sampling the finest in Long Island or Carmel for all we know.
All I know for sure is he couldn't make the Buda. He'll be missed.
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Other than price, can someone tell me the difference between a caddie and a bag carrier. I am unfamiliar with the term bag carrier.
Thanks.
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Lynn a bag carrier should do just that plus rake bunkers, replace divots and attend the flag. A caddie should do all of that plus give distances, help with reading putts, etc.
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Lynn a bag carrier should do just that plus rake bunkers, replace divots and attend the flag. A caddie should do all of that plus give distances, help with reading putts, etc.
That is what I figured. Sounds like something right down my alley. I remember my son Geoff was playing in a match play event at the Broadmoor when he first started college. He said he told the 13 year caddie, that he didn't want a lot of chatter. So after 9 holes I asked Geoff if the caddie was talking much. He said on the front nine he said nothing until he asked him what he wanted at the 9th hole snack stand and is only reply was "snickers."
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Great work on the pairings Captains! Conrad did an excellent job of carrying me around Royal Porthcawl, so looking forward to pairing up with such a fine fellow once again!
Looking at the tee times, we might be struggling to get everyone around Hankley a second time unless we play foursomes in the afternoon as well? Though I personally love foursomes, I know its not everyone's cup of tea, so how about the possibility of playing greensomes in the afternoon at Hankley? Everyone gets to walk back to the tee and play a shot from there, but it should be quicker than a fourball? Whatever we do, I can't wait!
Cheers,
James
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Poor Mayhugh? Do you know what he's been up to? Probably sampling the finest in Long Island or Carmel for all we know.
Nothing that exciting. After the trip to Australia, I just couldn't get away for a whole week again this year. Hope you guys have a great time.
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Great work on the pairings Captains! Conrad did an excellent job of carrying me around Royal Porthcawl, so looking forward to pairing up with such a fine fellow once again!
Looking at the tee times, we might be struggling to get everyone around Hankley a second time unless we play foursomes in the afternoon as well? Though I personally love foursomes, I know its not everyone's cup of tea, so how about the possibility of playing greensomes in the afternoon at Hankley? Everyone gets to walk back to the tee and play a shot from there, but it should be quicker than a fourball? Whatever we do, I can't wait!
Cheers,
James
I think we'll be okay if we play REAL best ball matches: if you are out of a hole, pick up, move on. Medal scores not required.
And there's something about the waiting bar that speeds things up.
Having said that, I am not opposed to greensomes at all.
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Nothing that exciting. After the trip to Australia, I just couldn't get away for a whole week again this year. Hope you guys have a great time.
Don't worry, we will have a great time. It's BUDA, after all. Doesn't mean that it wouldn't be better if you were there. Now if you don't make next year we'll start to take it personally!
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I know I shouldn't do this. I know I'm inviting a curse. However, have a look at the forecast for next week. Glorious.
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We are now most assuredly cursed. Thanks Mark!
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Good to know who's buying the drinks while we sit out the hailstorm :)
Ulrich
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I remember we had to change into formal clothes at Sandwich for lunch - is that the same at Hankley and Liphook or can we go in golf clothes? I assume the formal dinner at Liphook is jacket & tie, but what about the lunches?
Ulrich
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Last report before I head to the airport:
By overwhelming vote - no dissenters actually - our Liphook dinner will be a roast beef carvery. We'll have a ploughman's lunch that day with a choice of either ham or cheese. Have your selection in mind on Wednesday so we can call it in to the club.
I believe jacket and tie will be required for Thursday's dinner. Lunches will be casual although I always have a jacket and tie not far away just in case.
Hoping for good weather, I'll see everyone Wednesday - or Tuesday evening.
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Mark Pearce was right. The forecast is for incredibly good September weather. Even hotter than Brian predicted. In the 80's expected. It's going to be a fantastic few days.
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UK weather forecasts and UK weather - two worlds collide :)
I'm already here near Hindhead and all I can say is that it rained this morning! Come one, we're still in England. I must say, however, that it did clear up around 11 AM and for the most part of the day it was glorious sunshine. But it did rain ... well, drizzle this morning! :)
Ulrich
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Beautiful day in London not a hint of a shower.
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Beautiful day in London not a hint of a shower.
...until this evening when it poured on us as we made our way to the theatre.
No worries for the Buda, however. Glorious sunshine and Indian Summer weather for the rest of the week!!! Bring your shorts and long socks!
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Just had an email from Lorne Smith he sends his apolgies in his absence from this year's event and sends eveybody his regards.
Boy, this is an event to look forward to putting names to faces together. Gonna miss 'Sir' Lorne with his mighty plus fours, Jason, GCA Jedi Master and GCA's most famous wildlife photographer! Look forward to meeting 'new' GCA'ers especially our dear leader!
Even though Mr Warren recently played the Holy Grail of GCA courses to play he will still be miffed that he is not playing his favourite UK course in the most sublime of indian summer UK weather!
Cheers
Ben
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I'm also miffed not to be playing Hankley due to war games. Will be at Liphook pm Thursday and Friday.
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Day one results after a.m. Foursomes and p.m. four balls:
ROW 6-1/2, GB&I 4-1/2
Much genial slagging going on, fueled by copious quantities of alcohol. ;D
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I've uploaded a few of my pics and created a Hankley Common album:
https://picasaweb.google.com/113171364365215548231
Ulrich
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I'll leave it to the captains to post the results. Suffice it to say that I am very grateful to the organisers, this event was run immaculately - although I didn't lay an eye on the Devil's Punchbowl Hotel, so others will have to comment on that ;-)
Much fun, good courses and superb weather. Thank you everyone.
Ulrich
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The Devils Punchbowl Hotel was fine with some very nice Ringwood ale being served last night. Needless to say last orders at 11pm was quickly changed into a 1am departure by purchasing the barmaid a drink!
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Mark I was truly impressed how you handled those delicate negotiations. At the next Buda I wiil reveal the full story of Chappers, the barmaid amd the Vodka...
Great fun guys safe journey's home.
I've made it to Edinburgh on the same flight as Sheehy!
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Final result of this event was a win for ROW, 19-15. The turning point was the second day four ball matches, 4-1 ROW to make the score 13-1/2 to 8-1/2. GBI won today's singles matches 6-1/2 to 5-1/2 but not enough to turn the tide.
Many thanks to Captain Peter Mallalieu, it was great fun to captain these teams of old friends with a few newcomers thrown to spice things up. And thanks to Golf's Most Beloved Figure, Ran Morrissett for showing up and bringing his hickories as well as that lethal white TaylorMade driver!
For the record, Hankley Common and Liphook are two elegant heathland gems that have never heard of but all would enjoy playing. Liphook had the most interesting and best conditioned greens I've played on in many years. Great golf course.
And to end this report, thanks to Craig Disher and Tony Muldoon for the organizing of Buda IX. Well done and thanks, gents.
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I knew we would win ;)
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I've uploaded a few of my pics and created a Hankley Common album:
https://picasaweb.google.com/113171364365215548231 (https://picasaweb.google.com/113171364365215548231)
Ulrich
Ulrich - wish you could recreate your photo album from this Buda.
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I don't remember which photos I put in there back then, but maybe those:
http://www.mayring.de/albums/Hankley_Common.html (http://www.mayring.de/albums/Hankley_Common.html)
Maybe we can get Buda going again?
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I don't remember which photos I put in there back then, but maybe those:
http://www.mayring.de/albums/Hankley_Common.html (http://www.mayring.de/albums/Hankley_Common.html)
Maybe we can get Buda going again?
Wow! I had never heard of this course. It looks absolutely wonderful. Thank you for sharing!
Someday...hmmm