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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: Sean_A on October 14, 2009, 11:22:05 AM
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BUDAPEST CUP
September 17-19 2010
Porthcawl GC & Pennard GC
USA TEAM Skipper: Whitty Whitaker
The Yank Arble: 18 Porthcawl PM; Pennard Saturday; Pennard Sunday AM
Drinkin' Joe Buehler: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
C Disher: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
Sweet Lou Duran: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
John Tucky Mayhugh: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
Ace McBride: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
W Peyronnin: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
E Smith: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; No Golf Sunday
J Topp: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
Whitty Whitaker: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
GB&I TEAM Captain: Spangles Muldoon
J Boon: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
C Gamble: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
The African Animal Gawith:36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; No Golf Sunday
Doc Hiseman: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
A Levett: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
P Mallalieu: 18 Porthcawl PM; Pennard Saturday; No Golf Sunday
Richard "The Other" Muldoon: 36 Pennard Sunday ONLY
Spangles Muldoon:36 Porthcawl; 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
M Pearce: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
L Smith: 18 Porthcawl PM; Pennard Saturday; 18 Pennard Sunday AM
B Stephens: 36 Porthcawl; Pennard Saturday; 36 Pennard Sunday
ITINERARY
Friday 17 Sept: 36 at Royal Porthcawl 5 times (18 players) starting at 8:30am & 5 times (20 players) starting at 1:30pm. Lunch is included between rounds and jacket & tie is not required.
Dinner is booked for 22 at 7:45; £30 each for a fixed menu:
Starter: Pan Seared Scallops with Mixed Baby Leaf Lettuce & Citrus Vinaigrette (smoked salmon is an alternative - let me know)
Main Course: Beef Wellington with sautee potatoes, carrots, fine beans & red wine sauce
Dessert: Triple Chocolate Chantilly Mousse
Cheese: Chef’s Welsh Cheeseboard Selection with Grapes & Celery
Coffee & Petit Feurs
JACKET & TIE REQUIRED FOR DINNER!
Following dinner Ross McMurray will give a presentation on the creation of a Ryder Cup venue followed by a Q&A session.
The dormie house is booked for the 16th. Breakfast is served in the clubhouse from 8am unless prior arrangements are made. Craig, Philip, Robin, Andy L, E Smith & Jason have the singles. You lot can figure out the three twin partners: J Boon, C Gamble, J Mayhugh, M Pearce, B Stephens & M Whitaker.
The entire dormy house became available for Friday, 17 September. Folks who have booked rooms must remember that excpet for ME, this night will not be paid for in advance. So far, those who ahve booked include A Levett, Doc, M Pearce, Conm Whitty and E Smith.
****Optional Game****Saturday 18 Sept: 18 at Clyne GC 4 times for 14 players (only 12 have taken their sposts) booked at 8:30am off the 10th tee. £70 deposit paid. Players will be expected to pay £25 each outstanding. The following Pests intend to play: C Disher, Sweet Lou Duran, John Tucky Mayhugh, J Topp, Whitty Whitaker, J Boon, C Gamble, The African Animal Gawith, A Levett, Spangles Muldoon, M Pearce, W Peyronnin & B Stephens.
Saturday 18 Sept: 18 at Pennard; 5 times (20 players) starting at 1:54pm. It probably makes sense to send off the non-Clyners first.
Dinner is booked for 8:00pm at Mumbai in Mumbles.
Sunday 19 Sept: 36 at Pennard; 5 times (18 players) starting at 8:20am & 4 times (16 players) at 2:00pm. Sunday Lunch is available between games, but I shall need to know numbers by Friday AM.
Additions to Buda: Tony Muldoon is organizing a 20 September shindig at Southerndown and James Boon is organizing Burnham & Berrow on the 16th. Mike Whitaker is organizing a trip through the West Country and is willing to allow eager Pests to tag along. Please see links below.
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,42421.0/
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,42628.0/
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,42635.0/
Ciao
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Sean,
Still sounds good to me. You are right in that its going to be tricky getting commitment and deposits, but assuming a few others respond to this thread saying its all okay, then I'd be happy to send a cheque over soon.
I'd also be interested in Clyne though I'd not heard of it before so I looked them up...
http://www.clynegolfclub.com/en/content/cms/home/home.aspx
What is the accomodation like in the Pennard area and how does accomodation usually work at Buda? Everyone in the same hotel for several nights, or every man for himself to find a nearby B&B? Anyone else with local / Buda knowledge is welcome to answer this one, Sean has enough on his plate! The Dormie house could be a good idea the night before we play Portcawl as I'd probably drive down that night after work, but not sure yet? And after Mr Warren's comments on the last thread, I'm not saying any more about room sharing or anything ::)
Cheers,
James
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Sean,
Still sounds good to me. You are right in that its going to be tricky getting commitment and deposits, but assuming a few others respond to this thread saying its all okay, then I'd be happy to send a cheque over soon.
I'd also be interested in Clyne though I'd not heard of it before so I looked them up...
http://www.clynegolfclub.com/en/content/cms/home/home.aspx
What is the accomodation like in the Pennard area and how does accomodation usually work at Buda? Everyone in the same hotel for several nights, or every man for himself to find a nearby B&B? Anyone else with local / Buda knowledge is welcome to answer this one, Sean has enough on his plate! The Dormie house could be a good idea the night before we play Portcawl as I'd probably drive down that night after work, but not sure yet?
When my wife and I went to Pennard in July 2005, we stayed at quite a nice hotel in downtown Swansea. Perhaps Sean will remember the name. It was fairly large but very well appointed, and had a car park and a decent dining room and bar.
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Bill,
Perhaps it was this one: http://www.morganshotel.co.uk/
Excellent hotel in center-city Swansea and close to the pubs of Wind Street.
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Sean,
I'll stay in a single or a double anywhere, you just tell me when, where and how much. And, no, I don't need another round on Saturday.
Where do I send my deposit?
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Cheque will be in the post tomorrow.
What price is the dormy house? If it's cheap enough I'll be up for it Thursday night.
If there’s a few up for it then, I'm in for Clyne.
I would also like to make the most of the trip to Wales and will make enquiries for 36 holes at either Pyle & Kenfig or Southerndown on the Monday as soon as 3 more speak up. I have no preference as to which and playing both on the same day is possible - if needlessly expensive. As its day 4 can anyone say which is the easier walk?
Thanks Sean.
James the accommodation varies. Of the 3 I've attended. We all stayed at the local branch of Fawlty Towers at Hoylake and a modern hotel based inside the grandstand at Headingly. For Deal we were in various locations but all quite close to the clubhouse and bar. Watch this space and the optioins will become clearer.
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As a low key old guy ( some call that "cheap" ) I preferred Mumbles to Swansea. But, I ended up staying in neither because I booked too late the last time.
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What's the drive time from Porthcawl to Pennard?
Given the 36 holes on Friday at Porthcawl and the late start the next day at Pennard, I'm inclined to spend Thursday and Friday night in Porthcawl and that leaves the Dormy house at Porthcawl out. Maybe there are some good B&B's in Porthcawl.
Deposit check going out tomorrow!
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Bill,
Perhaps it was this one: http://www.morganshotel.co.uk/
Excellent hotel in center-city Swansea and close to the pubs of Wind Street.
The very one! Thanks. It wasn't inexpensive.
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Thanks Sean - I am up for it - Cheque to be in post asap.
GCA - If anyone is interested in watching the local rugby game either on Friday or Sat night - I will have to wait for the 2010/11 fixtures next summer and will keep you all informed.
Tony - P+K is flattish and easy to walk on - I heard Southerndown is more hilly and harder walk - I dont mind either.
Cheers
Ben
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I googled "Porthcawl B&B" and there are many in town, close to the Royal Porthcawl coiurse, with Pyle & Kenfig right there too. The B&B's looked reasonable enough, with singles 30-40 quid.
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We can deal with hotels at a later date. That said, our options are basically Swansea or Mumbles. Neither place is really nice imo, but usually golfer types prefer Mumbles, but it tends to be more b&bish or small hotel (inn) with an exception or two
http://www.carltonmumbles.co.uk/
Swansea has the http://www.morganshotel.co.uk/ its a bit pricey, but fairly nice
A cheaper option nearly directly across the street and away from the water and right near the high street is http://www.premierinn.com/pti/hotelInformation.do?hotelId=24139
More directly in the docks and easily large enough to take a huge group like us is http://www.marriott.co.uk/hotels/travel/swsdt-swansea-marriott-hotel/ Its a bit more of a walk into the high street, but not too bad.
For those looking for a fine hotel on the Gower with an EXCELLENT restaurant there is the http://www.fairyhill.net/home.cfm
Also on the Gower is http://www.culverhousehotel.co.uk/?gclid=CO3M9IzUvZ0CFYNu4wodVCGnlA but it can't take everybody and any group here would be isolated. That said, its nice and recently gentrified. Its where I stay if I head down for a night. I like Port Eynon because there is nothing much there but a beach and a few pubs.
I would suggest holding off hotels until we know numbers because it is best to be together or at least near each other.
Ciao
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Thanks Sean and others,
I should probably have rephrased the query. I wasn't planning on booking anything yet, just curious how things had worked in the past? Got a better idea all round now.
Cheers,
James
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Sean
I've sent you an email but I'm unable to commit at the moment. I will see how things develop over the next few weeks.
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I can't commit at the moment but would hope to come.
Porthcawl is a decent place to stay and full of B&Bs and small hotels. I stayed at the Dormy House and it was was good value and clean.
The Mumbles is a nice place to stay - just the start of the gower - easy to get to Pennard and into Swansea - although from what I saw of Swnsea, it may be best to leave it to the locals!
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Sean,
I'll post a cheque tomorrow. Would like to play Clyne but not bothered about dormie house at Porthcawl, especially as the Friday isn't available.
Tony
I'd like to join you on the Monday. Don't know much about P&K or Southerndown so no particular preferences but would prefer 36 at one or the other rather than trying to hit both.
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See first post.
Ciao
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I'm interested, what's the deadlines here please?
Also how many attendee's are required for it to go ahead?
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Sean,
Are you OK with getting cheques in USD?
I would be interested in Clyne on Saturday AM.
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Sean,
Cheque in the mail. Sat AM at Clyne is fine with me.
Tony,
I'm up for either on Monday although given a choice I'd opt for Southerndown. I'm also considering a day at Painswick and/or Beau Desert post-Buda.
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I'm interested, what's the deadlines here please?
Also how many attendee's are required for it to go ahead?
Gareth
As of yet, there are no deadlines, though I am told that I should be making reservations for Porthcawl no later than the end of October. I would like to have a decent idea of numbers before booking. When I do book I will try to pad out extra spots if the club will allow for it in deposits. I don't know how many Pests are required to carry on with the event. I spose it depends on how badly those Pests who have paid want to come.
John
Dollars are dandy. Sterling is stupendous. Cash is king.
Ciao
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Sean,
Cheque in the mail. Sat AM at Clyne is fine with me.
Tony,
I'm up for either on Monday although given a choice I'd opt for Southerndown. I'm also considering a day at Painswick and/or Beau Desert post-Buda.
Craig
If you are considering Beau you should think about a cross country hike and play Kington on the way. I promise, you won't be disappointed. Its possible I could join you if diaries match.
Ciao
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I'm thinking about getting to Kington on the way down or back up. I would be willing to arrange a visit there if others are keen.
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I'm thinking about getting to Kington on the way down or back up. I would be willing to arrange a visit there if others are keen.
I'm game. In addition to Kington either before or after the main event, I'll be trying to add Clyne on Saturday AM. Where else should I try to see? I've heard Painswick, Beau Desert, and P&K mentioned.
Ben, the rugby game sounds like fun. Would definitely be interested.
Sean, the cheque is in the post.
I will be trying to go ahead and book flights in the next week or so in order to use the least amount of miles as possible. Where I play isn't that important at this point, but I do want to get the travel sorted out.
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I'm thinking about getting to Kington on the way down or back up. I would be willing to arrange a visit there if others are keen.
I'm game. In addition to Kington either before or after the main event, I'll be trying to add Clyne on Saturday AM. Where else should I try to see? I've heard Painswick, Beau Desert, and P&K mentioned.
Ben, the rugby game sounds like fun. Would definitely be interested.
Sean, the cheque is in the post.
I will be trying to go ahead and book flights in the next week or so in order to use the least amount of miles as possible. Where I play isn't that important at this point, but I do want to get the travel sorted out.
John
Don't tell me you are trying to avoid a similar trip to playing Rye, driving to Deal for night, then driving to Swinley the next day? Those are the kind of windshield trips which make memories.
Other than those mentioned above, you could go west, play Tenby and perhaps Cardigan. Or you could drift southwest and do Burnham, Perranporth and St Enodoc. Of course, Southerndown, quite near Porthcawl is wonderful. It all depends on your time allowance and tolerance for windshield time.
It seems to me that if you are coming from Heathrow that the easy extras are P&K, Southerndown and Burnham with Tenby as a day trip out from Pennard. Anything else of note requires "extra" work. I am guessing Heathrow is maybe two hours from Burnham. Though, the better airport to fly into if possible is Bristol. I think it can be accessed from NY or NJ.
Ciao
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Sean,
A bit less time in the car would be desirable, though no regrets at all with this year's trip. Well, I do wish we had played another round at Swinley, but I can make up for that another time.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll have to revisit some of your photo tours.
Bristol is worth considering, but for me getting there is adding an extra airport stop and the more stops the more that can go wrong with the clubs.
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I'm interested, what's the deadlines here please?
Also how many attendee's are required for it to go ahead?
Gareth
As of yet, there are no deadlines, though I am told that I should be making reservations for Porthcawl no later than the end of October. I would like to have a decent idea of numbers before booking. When I do book I will try to pad out extra spots if the club will allow for it in deposits. I don't know how many Pests are required to carry on with the event. I spose it depends on how badly those Pests who have paid want to come.
John
Dollars are dandy. Sterling is stupendous. Cash is king.
Ciao
Thanks Sean.
Will get back to you on this but certainly very interested in a couple of the venues highlighted here.
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My check is in the mail.
I will definitely want to combine this with another destination.
London? Liverpool? Ireland? somewhere else?
Better to travel before Buda or after?
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For those considering post-Buda golf:
Wales to Newquay by car takes you past the likes of Burnham & Berrow, Westward Ho!, Saunton, St Enodoc, Trevose and Perranporth, while also being amazing countryside. From Newquay to London on Air Southwest is a doddle, and cheap too - I paid 29 quid one-way in May. There are a few rental car mobs at Newquay Airport as well, so you could easily leave the car there.
Back in London, you've got the Heathland and Kent/Sussex links at your disposal... what could be better?!
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Boony and I are thinking of going to both Tenby and Ashburnham on the Thursday before Porthcawl on Friday. Also on Monday we might go to P+K and maybe Southerndown if anyone else is interested let us know on this thread.
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Blimey Ben,
I start out just asking you what else is nearby and before I know it you've got me on a punishing 36 hole a day regime for about a week! :o ;D
I'm sure some of those are possible, but I'd like to see what other ideas people have? And I'm sure this wont be the only time I head to the south of Wales in my life so I dont need to get them all in on this one trip. 8)
Burnham & Berrow has been mentioned a few times as a possible pre or post event. As Sean is busy sorting stuff out at his other course, if there was interest in a game at Burnham & Berrow I could try and sort something?
Cheers,
James
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Go to first post for update.
Ciao
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Sean,
Mailed my check earlier this week. You should see it next week.
No to the dormy. I would rather stay in the same location Thurs & Fri nights.
36 on Friday.
Yes to Clyne
Keep up the good work!
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Sean:
Count me in for Buda. I mailed the deposit check yesterday.
Thanks for organizing this!
Eric
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Sean i posted my check yesterday. I am in for the Dormie house Clyne and will be interested in any pre or post golf.
Cheeers
Stan
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If folks could indicate the following I would appreciate it:
- 18 or 36 on Friday? 36.
- Dormie House on Thursday? No. If so, single or twin?
- Clyne on am Saturday? Yes.
Thanks, Eric
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Sean,
Unfortunately I am unable to participate in BUDA 2010, the gentlemen of Flossmoor Country Club are visiting Deal the same weekend.
I hope you and other GCA'ers will find time to join us at Deal during the year.
Chappers
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See update on opening post.
Ciao
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Sean,
Could you also add me to Dormie House for 16th please
Cheers
Ben
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I think I will plan to stay in a B*B or inn in Porthcawl the two nights and drive over to Swansea the morning of the p.m. round at Pennard. Looks like there are plenty of prospects in Porthcawl. It would be nice to find something big enough in Swansea for the entire crew.
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Sean
Yes to single room Dormie on Thursday
Yes to 36 Friday
No to Clyne
I'll get you a cheque out pronto.
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I think I will plan to stay in a B*B or inn in Porthcawl the two nights and drive over to Swansea the morning of the p.m. round at Pennard. Looks like there are plenty of prospects in Porthcawl. It would be nice to find something big enough in Swansea for the entire crew.
Ace
I would probably like to join you in a B&B/inn for Friday only. I plan to make the afternoon Porthcawl game and dinner at the club if folks want dinner there.
I would agree about the Swansea/Mumbles/Langland Bay hotel, but everyone has their own budget and preferences. When we have a better idea of numbers we can give it more thought.
Ciao
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Sean, please add Joe Buehler as a probable (he's hooked on BUDA). He'll send you the deposit check shortly.
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Ace
I was most impressed with Joe's stamina. From Gatwick up to Huntercombe and then back down to Rye for dinner and the pub was an astounding effort. Its clear Joe likes his black ale! Ok, so yous had a nap on the back 9 of Huntercombe, but it was understandable!
Ciao
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Ace
I was most impressed with Joe's stamina. From Gatwick up to Huntercombe and then back down to Rye for dinner and the pub was an astounding effort. Its clear Joe likes his black ale! Ok, so yous had a nap on the back 9 of Huntercombe, but it was understandable!
Ciao
I thought my par on that back nine par 5 won the match for us!
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Ace
I was most impressed with Joe's stamina. From Gatwick up to Huntercombe and then back down to Rye for dinner and the pub was an astounding effort. Its clear Joe likes his black ale! Ok, so yous had a nap on the back 9 of Huntercombe, but it was understandable!
Ciao
I thought my par on that back nine par 5 won the match for us!
Ace
I don't mean you weren't any help on the back 9, only that the pair of you looked to be literally asleep on your feet for an hour or so.
BTW - you were meant to finish them off in style with a long birdie putt. I think par was always in the bag! Though it shouldn't have been a winner - we have the African Animal's uncharacteristically sloppy approach to thank for that.
Ciao
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Ace
I was most impressed with Joe's stamina. From Gatwick up to Huntercombe and then back down to Rye for dinner and the pub was an astounding effort. Its clear Joe likes his black ale! Ok, so yous had a nap on the back 9 of Huntercombe, but it was understandable!
Ciao
I thought my par on that back nine par 5 won the match for us!
Ace
I don't mean you weren't any help on the back 9, only that the pair of you looked to be literally asleep on your feet for an hour or so.
BTW - you were meant to finish them off in style with a long birdie putt. I think par was always in the bag! Though it shouldn't have been a winner - we have the African Animal's uncharacteristically sloppy approach to thank for that.
Ciao
If you think I looked a bit sleepy then, you should have seen me on the M25 en route to Rye! It wasn't long before we lost your trail near the exit down to Rye that I dozed off for an instant. Luckily I held it together and we survived.
That pulled pitch into the depression surprised me too, PG doesn't make too many unforced errors!
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A recent pic taken at Pennard (from Golfweek):
(http://golfweek.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com/img/photos/2009/10/05/cow-pennard-october-5-2009_t600.jpg?4326734cdb8e39baa3579048ef63ad7b451e7676)
Holy Cow! is this gonna be fun or what?
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I'm not seeing the pic. Just me?
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I'm not seeing the pic. Just me?
Scott,
A quick search on Google and I found the article, picture attached below. I didn't post a link to it as it mentions golf carts at one point and I didn't want to set Melvyn off... ;D 8)
Cheers,
James
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See first post
Ciao
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I guess I did not answer the specifi questions
Count me in for Clyne, 36 holes and Dormie house.
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Can someone tell me, because I am descended of convicts and not that bright, what's the total cost of the 36 at Porthcawl Clyne the next morning, then the 54 at Pennard?
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Can someone tell me, because I am descended of convicts and not that bright, what's the total cost of the 36 at Porthcawl Clyne the next morning, then the 54 at Pennard?
I am surprised a son of convicts bothers to ask about prices! I guess yer pre-kin weren't thieving convicts. Perhaps you were adopted by genteel folk.
Anyway, the price is an unknown quantity at this point. Call it £350 in green fees for the whole burrito.
Ciao
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Indeed. Actually my kin were rum runners. So yeah, part thief, part ignorer of laws, part pisshead!
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No doubt the Aussie will also be interested in the Totty pictured above!!
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Firstly, that's Kiwis. Secondly, it's sheep they like. ;D
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I have a friend who is a member at Royal St. David's (Harlech) who is interested in setting up a match with GCAer's on either side of the Buda if there is interest.
http://www.royalstdavids.co.uk/
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I have a friend who is a member at Royal St. David's (Harlech) who is interested in setting up a match with GCAer's on either side of the Buda if there is interest.
http://www.royalstdavids.co.uk/
Nice offer - but it looks like a full day drive from Swansea through most of Wales! Anybody know? Looks like a cool place.
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Firstly, that's Kiwis. Secondly, it's sheep they like. ;D
Other than a passion for rugby, that's something else the Welsh & New Zealanders have in common then ;D
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I have a friend who is a member at Royal St. David's (Harlech) who is interested in setting up a match with GCAer's on either side of the Buda if there is interest.
http://www.royalstdavids.co.uk/
Stan
That is a very fine offer and idea. I won't participate, but I think others should give it serious thought. Being hosted by members is the best way to visit a course and at least I have a lot of time for Harlech. It is doable especially in conjunction with visit to Bernardo Land and perhaps Nefyn, but I am afraid I will leave it to you to round up the troops. I have already had enough of cat herding.
Ciao
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Stan,
Royal St. Davids is a place I would really like to see. I'm not sure if the schedule will work to do it. I'm trying to get travel plans sorted out right now.
I had been thinking about flying into Manchester instead of Heathrow. It's only 50 miles or so further and would be a lot easier to get in/out of. Delta is being stingy with their free tickets, so I'm not sure just yet. Anyway, if I end up using Manchester Harlech gets much more convenient.
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Stan,
Royal St. Davids is a place I would really like to see. I'm not sure if the schedule will work to do it. I'm trying to get travel plans sorted out right now.
I had been thinking about flying into Manchester instead of Heathrow. It's only 50 miles or so further and would be a lot easier to get in/out of. Delta is being stingy with their free tickets, so I'm not sure just yet. Anyway, if I end up using Manchester Harlech gets much more convenient.
John
One thing to be aware of is the M6. It is a dodgy road at the best of times (I think the worst road in England) and can easily add hours to any journey. OK, one can cut through Wales, but that will definitely add hours to any journey.
Ciao
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Stan,
Royal St. Davids is a place I would really like to see. I'm not sure if the schedule will work to do it. I'm trying to get travel plans sorted out right now.
I had been thinking about flying into Manchester instead of Heathrow. It's only 50 miles or so further and would be a lot easier to get in/out of. Delta is being stingy with their free tickets, so I'm not sure just yet. Anyway, if I end up using Manchester Harlech gets much more convenient.
John
One thing to be aware of is the M6. It is a dodgy road at the best of times (I think the worst road in England) and can easily add hours to any journey.
Ciao
Thanks much for the advice. I've also been looking at flying into Heathrow and home from Manchester. The return through Harlech would avoid the M6. I have to admit prospects of a side trip to Hoylake are pretty appealing.
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Stan,
Royal St. Davids is a place I would really like to see. I'm not sure if the schedule will work to do it. I'm trying to get travel plans sorted out right now.
I had been thinking about flying into Manchester instead of Heathrow. It's only 50 miles or so further and would be a lot easier to get in/out of. Delta is being stingy with their free tickets, so I'm not sure just yet. Anyway, if I end up using Manchester Harlech gets much more convenient.
John
One thing to be aware of is the M6. It is a dodgy road at the best of times (I think the worst road in England) and can easily add hours to any journey.
Ciao
Thanks much for the advice. I've also been looking at flying into Heathrow and home from Manchester. The return through Harlech would avoid the M6. I have to admit prospects of a side trip to Hoylake are pretty appealing.
John
Yes, if your intent is to play Hoylake and perhaps a few others in the environs and down the M6, Manchester makes sense. I am guessing the drive from Hoylake to Porthcawl is 3.5ish hours if all goes well. The drive from Heathrow to Porthcawl is in the region of 2.5ish hours if all goes well. Cutting through Wales from Hoylake to Porthcawl via Harlech is an unknown quantity for me, but I would guess in the region of 6-7 hours if you avoid the farmers' roads - tee hee.
Ciao
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See first post.
Ciao
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Sean
Yes to single room Dormie on Thursday
Yes to 36 Friday
No to Clyne
I'll get you a cheque out pronto.
Sean
Glad the cheque got to you so fast. Just bumping this up so you can add my details to the Dormie accommodation. I hope one or two more 'head shakers' will put themselves forward for ridicule, though you should really include Ben on the archie list already, as he's done Rutland Water.
Cheers
Robin
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Thanks Robin for kindly adding me on to the archie list!!
Cheers
Ben
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Sean,
Just bumping this thread up to the top to try and maintain some momentum and interest!
Also, I love the "head shakers" reference. Very good! and right up there with your "herding cats" comment! ;D
Cheers,
James
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ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED? See 1st post on page 1 for updates and Clyne info.
Ciao
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Well, speak up! As nobody ahs backed out of Clyne, I am about ready to make a booking. I am also going to approach Porthcawl about the dormie house shortly.
Ciao
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Sean,
Put Conrad and me down for Clyne as well. Also, how much space is there in the Dormie House? We'd be interested if there's space.
Mark
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Well, speak up! As nobody ahs backed out of Clyne, I am about ready to make a booking. I am also going to approach Porthcawl about the dormie house shortly.
Ciao
Not being familiar with Clyne, I don't have a good sense of how long it would take to play. Would it be a reasonable possibility to just walk in if we weren't going to finish in time?
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Well, speak up! As nobody ahs backed out of Clyne, I am about ready to make a booking. I am also going to approach Porthcawl about the dormie house shortly.
Ciao
Not being familiar with Clyne, I don't have a good sense of how long it would take to play. Would it be a reasonable possibility to just walk in if we weren't going to finish in time?
John
There are tow loops of nine so its easy to give up the ghost at the turn. There really isn't any easy opportunity to flow between the nines whilst playing, but as there will be a comp on anyway, it doesn't really matter.
Ciao
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Sean,
If Clyne is just down the road from Pennard then the morning round there would be possible, but I imagine it would be tight. It also puts pressure on you from an organisational perspective with regards to everyone rushing from one place to another and do you adjust peoples tee off times at Pennard that afternoon to take account for this etc.
If people are still keen to play Clyne, could we play foursomes to speed things up or are we just going to get stuck behind the locals who could be playing Saturday morning fourballs?
Cheers,
James
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Sean,
If Clyne is just down the road from Pennard then the morning round there would be possible, but I imagine it would be tight. It also puts pressure on you from an organisational perspective with regards to everyone rushing from one place to another and do you adjust peoples tee off times at Pennard that afternoon to take account for this etc.
If people are still keen to play Clyne, could we play foursomes to speed things up or are we just going to get stuck behind the locals who could be playing Saturday morning fourballs?
Cheers,
James
James
I am not going to Captain either team so the logistics of who plays when won't be up to me. That said, I would think the Clyners should probably go out as 2 RoW and 2 USA in each 4ball to better facilitate the Buda matches. I would think the Captains can organize the first days matches in advance to make matters a bit easier for the Clyners.
In any case, the Clyners would have 5 hours to do their business and get to the 1st tee at Pennard. Pennard has a spike bar and we can probably order sandwiches to go for the Clyners - that way they don't have to bother taking off their boots after the AM game!
Ciao
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Thanks Sean,
As I'm new to this whole Buda business, I wasn't sure who did all the organising, and was just trying to make sure there wasn't too much pressure on you to herd us cats ::)
Cheers,
James
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James,
One must know one's places.
I vote you for captain ;)
Sean,
I remain mad keen.
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Sean,
I didn't say, but Conrad and I will both play 36 at Porthcawl.
Mark
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If folks could indicate the following I would appreciate it:
- 18 or 36 on Friday? 36.
- Dormie House on Thursday? No.
- Clyne on am Saturday? Yes.
Thanks, Tony
PS to be clear I have changed my mind and an opting out of the Dormie house.
I will stay the night with the brother and if necesary kidnap him for the Buda. If all the spots are taken then he can be my unpaid caddy/slave. PS he doesn't seem to log on much lately so I'm probably safe in posting this. ;)
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Below is the email received from Porthcawl. We have a slight problem with the dormie house as more people wanted singles than are available. I think I have the right people sorted. Unless some objects pronto, I will assume all are happy with the arrangements. I leave it to you folks to organize your own breakfast times etc.
I am pleased to confirm that we have all 12 beds free in the dormy house on Thurs 16th Sept 2010. The dormy house consists of 6 single rooms and 3 twin rooms.
The charges are as follows: -
Single room - £45
Twin room, shared - £40 per person
Twin room single occupancy - £55
All rates include B&B, breakfast is served in the clubhouse from 8am, although we can make this a bit earlier if required.
Ciao
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Sean,
I am in for the whole ball of wax. I don't mind sharing a room if Lou needs a single.
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Sean,
I am in for the whole ball of wax. I don't mind sharing a room if Lou needs a single.
Stan
That was very kind of you. I have duly adjusted the first post.
Ciao
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Looks like I will be flying into Heathrow, arriving 15 Sept at 7:40 AM. My return flight is also from LHR on 21 Sept, but not until 14:25.
Anyone interested in car-pooling, send me a message.
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Sean, here is my response to your query early on:
"If folks could indicate the following I would appreciate it:
- 18 or 36 on Friday? 36
- Dormie House on Thursday? If so, single or twin? No, will look for nearby B&B
- Clyne on am Saturday? No
- 18 or 36 on Sunday? 36
Thanks for making all these arrangements, looks great!
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See opening post for updated details.
Ciao
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Pests are still crawling in! See opening post for update.
Ciao
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Sean
Just to confirm our conversation at Beau the other week but I'm afraid I won't be at Buda 2010 :(
It was a tough call to make but its a direct clash with the 25th playing of my Hackers group trip. We are repeating the first trip and going back to North Berwick for three days and, as one of the founding fathers, I was persuaded that I should be there.
I'll miss Buda but will hopefully be back in 2011.
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All
Its getting to nitty gritty time with making a decision. There are two spots left @ Porthcawl. It is possible if we get 2-3 reserves that I can get an extra time at Porthcawl, but I won't cross that bridge until I get there. See opening post for updates.
Ciao
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Sean,
I am in.
Will come back with total number of rounds later tonight.
Cheers,
Brian
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Sean,
I am in.
Will come back with total number of rounds later tonight.
Cheers,
Brian
I volunteer to referee the discussions between you and Scott about New South Wales! ;D Looking forward to meeting you at the Buda Cup.
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Sean,
Forgot to confirm that I am OK for 36 at Porthcawl on Friday and 36 at Pennard on Sunday
Hope I got in time!! ;D
Would be good to see the changes they have done at Porthcawl - New 1st tees and new 12th green etc.
Cheers
Ben
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Sean,
I have just realised what I think you meant. You did not mean there were places left on the whole trip did you?
If not put me down as a reserve then. If you did have room for the trip then put me down as a definite.
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Sean,
I have just realised what I think you meant. You did not mean there were places left on the whole trip did you?
If not put me down as a reserve then. If you did have room for the trip then put me down as a definite.
Brian, yes, there are two full places left - as things stand. If a chap doesn't have info next to his name I haven't received his deposit, but he has said the cheque is in the post - as it were. I won't actually confirm a place until the deposit is received. If we get enough numbers (probably at least 26) to warrant seeking another time @ Porthcawl I will make enquiries. I would think 28 @ Pennard should be enough.
Ciao
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Sean,
It occurs to me that I forgot to tell you that I will play 36 on the Sunday, as, I think, will Conrad.
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Sean
Please put me down for 36 on Sunday too.
Thanks
Robin
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To follow on the Monday there's a trip to Southerndown.
To keep Sean's thoughts clear it has its own thread.
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,42421.0/
Please indicate on that thread if you like to participate. All welcome.
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Sean i have difficulty getting my head around golf so far away but i would like to play 36 at Porthcawl and Pennard Sat pm and Sunday morning.
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Please see the link below for b&b recommendations in mumbles
http://golfclubatlas.com/forum/index.php/topic,42467.0/
Ciao
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Surfing the web this morning and looked up Royal Porthcawl - they have a new website with the updated course strokesaver images. Biggest change of all is the new 12th green by David Williams.
www.royalporthcawl.com
Cheers
Ben
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John Mayhugh
Has anyone taken you up on the carpool proposal? I may be able to drive with you if we can work out some specifics. Please email me of you are interested.
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Just to muddy the waters of choice even further, here is a link to a very well run society which just happens to have Swinley Forest scheduled for 16 September. The price isn't too bad either considering the club charge £150 for the day.
http://www.vmat.co.uk/volvo/vschedule.aspx?S=f90f4c54-972f-46fa-8ea2-222de610ff5b
Ciao
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Hi all,
Some bad news to report on the Buda front... I'm not going to be able to make it for this year's hostilities.
I'll be getting married in France the weekend of the big dance. Would you believe me if I said I tried to organise it around Buda? I'm sure those who know me won't be surprised by that! ;D
That said, anyone who is in or around London before the 18th or after the 25th should PM me to organise a hit at Deal if they are so inclined.
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Scott,
Did you pick that date to ensure none of your GCA mates will try to crash the wedding?
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Scott, sorry you'll miss the Buda but a wedding in France sounds rather special, congratulations!
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I had been having a difficult time finding two single rooms for Joe Buehler and me in the area of Pennard without going into Swansea (which I was unimpressed with last time there), so have booked our rooms at the North Gower Hotel (http://www.northgowerhotel.co.uk/index.htm). 50 quid a night B&B, and 15 minutes to the golf course.
Perhaps the beds won't collapse this time. ;)
They didn't have any bookings yet before these (for Saturday and Sunday nights, 9/18 and 9/19), so available for any unbooked Buda-ites.
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I didn't realise you and Joe were that close, Bill ;D
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I didn't realise you and Joe were that close, Bill ;D
The beds collapsed in our non-luxe accommodation at Deal. Note there are two single rooms booked at the North Gower!
I would really like to tie in a couple of days at RCP next year, but it is quite a trip from Pennard to Deal.
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Scott,
If I haven't said so already, Congratulations! Shame you wont be able to make it but then its a pretty good excuse you have! My own anniversary is on the 22nd Sept which was carefully planned as a wedding date in 2007 to avoid all major distractions, no cricket, football, world cup or anything like that and CERTAINLY no Ryder Cup that year! Of course it never occured to me that every other anniversary would be up against a Ryder Cup... Doh! ::)
If you fancy getting away from it all just before then wedding then come join us at Burnham on the 16th, if not before.
Cheers,
James
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Thanks James. Family will be arriving from Aus for the week or so before, so I'd say I am no chance for Burnham, but I am definitely getting out there before then!
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Nice one...congrats!
Maybe Mayhugh can fly the BUDA boys over to France for the evening do in Golf Force One??
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Nice one...congrats!
Maybe Mayhugh can fly the BUDA boys over to France for the evening do in Golf Force One??
If I had a jet, I would be heading to Deal this weekend. It's COLD here.
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;D Deal is under a few inches of snow, mate!!
But swing by to pick us up and we'll go to Aus for a hit!
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I am pleased to say Lorne Smith, the creator of one of the best websites out there for people who are discerning about where they play, will be one of the crowd: http://www.finegolf.co.uk/
Presently, I have one spot remaining at Porthcawl. If I get enough on a reserve list I will look into obtaining another tee time.
Ciao
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I an in Sean will email u in a few
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See opening post.
Ciao
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This Clyne course doesn't look half bad!
http://www.clynegolfclub.com/en/content/cms/Golf_Course/Golf_Course.aspx
Ciao
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Thought it was time for bump.
Ciao
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Are we filled up?
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Bump for anyone who might want to get a first hand look at Pennard! (See the thread currently on page 1, "Pennard." Seeing for yourself - priceless.)
Details of the Buda Cup are on the first page.
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Please see original post for an important update.
Please read the original post again. I made mistakes on the total outstanding for everyone.
Ciao
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Bump. Cheque on Way :)
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I just saw the update and sent the check
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Bump - there are 4 slots open at Royal Porthcawl and Pennard, just in case some of you folks were mulling over the Buda in September............
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Bump - there are 4 slots open at Royal Porthcawl and Pennard, just in case some of you folks were mulling over the Buda in September............
Tempting......
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See Update on original post.
Ciao
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See Update on original post.
Ciao
Just post you a check for the balance ($282.03 in my case) is all I need to do?
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See Update on original post.
Ciao
Just post you a check for the balance ($282.03 in my case) is all I need to do?
Johnny of Ken-tucky
Yep - assuming you organized your hotels. I will pay the green fees at Porthcawl & Pennard and organize dinner at Porthcawl. I also plan to organize something for the Saturday night, but I am looking for guidance - which seems to be in light supply.
Ciao
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Okay then, my vote is for dinner out on the town in Mumbles!
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Okay then, my vote is for dinner out on the town in Mumbles!
Ditto.
Plus my proxy for Buehler!
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Yep - assuming you organized your hotels. I will pay the green fees at Porthcawl & Pennard and organize dinner at Porthcawl. I also plan to organize something for the Saturday night, but I am looking for guidance - which seems to be in light supply.
Had I known the service was available, I would have gotten you to book lodging for me too. ;D
Mumbles for dinner on Saturday is OK by me.
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Remembering the great meal we had at Akbar's, how about the Mumbai in Mumbles?
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Sean,
I'm happy to eat elsewhere if the club have another funtion on.
Cheers,
James
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Remembering the great meal we had at Akbar's, how about the Mumbai in Mumbles?
Sounds good to me.
Speaking of Akbar's, last night I watched the Bollywood epic Jodhaa Akbar . If you haven't seen it, you must. I loved this movie!
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Is it better than Grease?
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Remembering the great meal we had at Akbar's, how about the Mumbai in Mumbles?
As long as its not a trap?
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When I was in Swansea last year I ate at a self serve Chinese spot recommended by the locals. I believe they charged me by the time. It was a great bargain.
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See first post for updates.
So far it looks like eating out on Saturday night is the preference. I am leaning toward Patrick's (probably the best restaurant other than the outstanding Fairyhill on the Gower - but expensive) or Mumbai (a modestly priced Indian). Any preferences?
Any volunteers/nominatiosn for Captains?
Ciao
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I'm easy but whichever we don't go to Saturday becomes the choice for Sunday?
Why not pick the one you like best Sean as you won't be there Sunday?
PS thanks for organising and guys where's the support?
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See first post for updates.
Any volunteers/nominations for Captains?
Ciao
I would like to nominate Robin Hiseman as the ROW captain - due to his battle hardened BUDA experience and is playing all of the venues which also helps.
Also I am awaiting the rugby season fixtures - there is always a Friday night match in Wales 7.30 ish KO. I am hoping the Ospreys will be playing at home in Swansea - the other alternatives is Scarlets in Llanelli or Cardiff Blues. If anyone is still interested in watching a rugby match let me know.
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See first post for updates.
Any volunteers/nominations for Captains?
Ciao
I would like to nominate Robin Hiseman as the ROW captain - due to his battle hardened BUDA experience and is playing all of the venues which also helps.
Also I am awaiting the rugby season fixtures - there is always a Friday night match in Wales 7.30 ish KO. I am hoping the Ospreys will be playing at home in Swansea - the other alternatives is Scarlets in Llanelli or Cardiff Blues. If anyone is still interested in watching a rugby match let me know.
Aww shit! We have the dinner on Fri - maybe there will still be a game on Sat night and curry after :)
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Tony Muldoon served as an able assistant to me in Kent and deserves a crack at defending the trophy for GB&I.
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I second Mark's nomination. I had a go at Painswick. Tony will be perfect for ROW.
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Following James Boon's suggestion, I have asked my design colleague Ross McMurray, the designer of the 2010 Ryder Cup Course at Celtic Manor, if he would agree to give us a talk about the creation of the Ryder Cup venue during the dinner at Portcawl on Friday night. I'm pleased to say he has agreed! He doesn't think he's going to be able to spare the time for golf, but can I suggest that we at least stump up the cost of his dinner between us?
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I second Mark's nomination. I had a go at Painswick. Tony will be perfect for ROW.
I will now go with Robin and vote for Captain Tony!
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Following James Boon's suggestion, I have asked my design colleague Ross McMurray, the designer of the 2010 Ryder Cup Course at Celtic Manor, if he would agree to give us a talk about the creation of the Ryder Cup venue during the dinner at Portcawl on Friday night. I'm pleased to say he has agreed! He doesn't think he's going to be able to spare the time for golf, but can I suggest that we at least stump up the cost of his dinner between us?
Awesome! It will be very interesting not just a from a golf course design standpoint but also from planning a big event and that preparation the of a complex facility in readiness for the media/TV companies as well as tented village car parking and spectactors.
Robin - any chance that there will be notes written beforehand and that I can have a copy so that I can understand whats going on?
Cheers
Ben
BTW Terry Matthews' (owner of the Celtic Manor and a big tennis fan) next aim is to build a Tennis Venue to attract the best players at the resort.
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Following James Boon's suggestion, I have asked my design colleague Ross McMurray, the designer of the 2010 Ryder Cup Course at Celtic Manor, if he would agree to give us a talk about the creation of the Ryder Cup venue during the dinner at Portcawl on Friday night. I'm pleased to say he has agreed! He doesn't think he's going to be able to spare the time for golf, but can I suggest that we at least stump up the cost of his dinner between us?
Congrats to Ross for agreeing to do this... Good timing too...
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Robin,
What a brilliant choice of speaker, given the timing!
Will be a fascinating evening, given some of the comments on Celtic Manor I have seen on here! Of course we should stump up for his dinner.
Mark
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Following James Boon's suggestion, I have asked my design colleague Ross McMurray, the designer of the 2010 Ryder Cup Course at Celtic Manor, if he would agree to give us a talk about the creation of the Ryder Cup venue during the dinner at Portcawl on Friday night. I'm pleased to say he has agreed! He doesn't think he's going to be able to spare the time for golf, but can I suggest that we at least stump up the cost of his dinner between us?
Awesome! It will be very interesting not just a from a golf course design standpoint but also from planning a big event and that preparation the of a complex facility in readiness for the media/TV companies as well as tented village car parking and spectactors.
Robin - any chance that there will be notes written beforehand and that I can have a copy so that I can understand whats going on?
Cheers
Ben
BTW Terry Matthews' (owner of the Celtic Manor and a big tennis fan) next aim is to build a Tennis Venue to attract the best players at the resort.
I agree we should stump up for his dinner! It takes time and effort to do something like this - I applaud Ross for agreeing to do this
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Ben
I'll ask Ross if he has some notes to hand. I doubt he's given it much thought yet, as I only mentioned it to him this morning.
Cheers
Robin
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Ben
I'll ask Ross if he has some notes to hand. I doubt he's given it much thought yet, as I only mentioned it to him this morning.
Cheers
Robin
Robin,
No problems there is plenty of time come September, it would be a great help for me (and possibly others to remember what has been said in the presentation)
Cheers
Ben
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As no one else's
head is above the parapet hand is up, thank you Mark and Robin. Will be fun.
Looks like 10 a side ROW and USA. Easy job.
Let the sledging begin. ;)
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As no one else's head is above the parapet hand is up, thank you Mark and Robin. Will be fun.
Looks like 10 a side ROW and USA. Easy job.
Let the sledging begin. ;)
Any USA losses will of course be blamed on jet lag, not to mention those blasted vuvulezas Capt Muldoon will bring for ROW to toot.
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I'll grant that Tony will be a formidable Captain and opponent but given the inspiration all of us took last year from Mike Whitaker, I think he'd be a terrific selection for our side.
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I'll grant that Tony will be a formidable Captain and opponent but given the inspiration all of us took last year from Mike Whitaker, I think he'd be a terrific selection for our side.
I concur!
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It looks like nominations are in. Muldoon for ROW and Whitty for USA. Consider this sentence a posting of the banns. If anybody has an additional word on the matter please speak you mind now.
See the orignal post for updates.
Ciao
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OK, having watched Craig's cool, calm, collected captaincy last year I feel better equipped to give this thing a go. Thanks, guys, for the opportunity ???. I think! :o
I've talked with Tony and we may offer for consideration a couple of tweaks to the competition. At its core, the Buda is a friendly social gathering of like-minded souls, but making the competition a bit more spirited (especially in a Ryder Cup year) might be fun. As the date grows closer we'll float a few suggestions and see what the group thinks.
Cheers!
Mike
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Just realized I had not yet sent a check for my balance to Sean. A to-do list isn't very useful if you don't check it!
Mailed today.
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I've been dreaming of Wales. These images from the Royal Porthcawl website have helped in painting a picture of what awaits in September.
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/rp6.jpg?t=1278605156)
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/rp5.jpg?t=1278605156)
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/rp4.jpg?t=1278605156)
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/rp3.jpg?t=1278605156)
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/rp1.jpg?t=1278605156)
Sean Arbie ;), I saw your pic from Pennard in a book at the bookstore the other day, recognizing it right away from here on GCA.
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I've been dreaming of Wales. These images from the Royal Porthcawl website have helped in painting a picture of what awaits in September.
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/rp6.jpg?t=1278605156)
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/rp5.jpg?t=1278605156)
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/rp4.jpg?t=1278605156)
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/rp3.jpg?t=1278605156)
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/rp1.jpg?t=1278605156)
Sean Arbie ;), I saw your pic from Pennard in a book at the bookstore the other day, recognizing it right away from here on GCA.
Eric
Yes, I finally make the transition to artiste and now I must change my name. Heavy sigh...
Ciao
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I think 'Arbie' has a certain je ne sais quoi and lends you an air of continental mystique.
Surely a beret and a pack of untipped Gauloises can only be just around the corner???
bonjour,
Le FBD.
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I think 'Arbie' has a certain je ne sais quoi and lends you an air of continental mystique.
Surely a beret and a pack of untipped Gauloises can only be just around the corner???
bonjour,
Le FBD.
FBD
What, now I can't fire up cigars? Forget it - I don't want to be a artiste.
Ciao
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Arbie? Sounds like a character in a Biggles book.
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I was just browsing the particulars and I see that I don't info of Sunday's golf for:
J Topp
W Peyronnin
T Muldoon
J Mayhugh
Sorry if I missed it, but please sort this out when you get a chance.
Ciao
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I was just browsing the particulars and I see that I don't info of Sunday's golf for:
J Topp
W Peyronnin
T Muldoon
J Mayhugh
Sorry if I missed it, but please sort this out when you get a chance.
Ciao
Do you mean number of holes for Sunday? 36 for me and I am pretty much certain for Jason Topp as well.
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I was just browsing the particulars and I see that I don't info of Sunday's golf for:
J Topp
W Peyronnin
T Muldoon
J Mayhugh
Sorry if I missed it, but please sort this out when you get a chance.
Ciao
Do you mean number of holes for Sunday? 36 for me and I am pretty much certain for Jason Topp as well.
36 for me as well
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Any chance someone is looking for a roommate for Thursday and Friday nights? Sadly, I am without lodging for those two nights. I was thinking of booking a single at the Seabank, but a partner would sure help keep the budget in check.
I do snore a bit, but I always carry earplugs so that I don't keep myself awake. ;D
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Captains: May I suggest having team photos snapped standing at the first tee just before dinner Friday night, since we'll all be in jacket and tie?
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/PORT.jpg?t=1279811500)
(http://i464.photobucket.com/albums/rr7/rednorman/ROW.jpg?t=1279811880)
Can't wait fellas.
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I may make it this year if I don't go to Brazil.
(http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv110/BrandyNikole0107/Budda-1.jpg?1279809322)
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Last call for money folks. I am off on holiday and plan to finalize numbers with Porthcawl somewhere around 10 August upon my return.
Ciao
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Sean I had planned on 36 on sunday and i can go either way regarding Clyne on Saturday
Regards Ward
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The good news is Sweet Lou Duran, that irascible, but harmless Libertarian, is indeed coming. For some, the further good news is that his single room in the dormie house is available as Lou is traveling with his wife. Any takers?
Ciao
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Last call going once...
Ciao
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Sean,
Sent you a message but didn't hear back. Is the dormie room still available?
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Sean,
Sent you a message but didn't hear back. Is the dormie room still available?
John
You and Eric(?) both want the space. Eric requested first so he has first dibs. However, Sweet Lou isn't sure he wants to give it up and wants a few more days to deliberate. If SL does drop his claim, may I suggest Eric takes the single and you take his twin spot?
Ciao
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Sean - John is welcomed to bunk with me in a twin. Mike
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Guys,
Just had a look at the Rugby fixtures to see whether we can attend one after the golf. On Friday night the Scarlets are at home vs Aironi 8pm KO - unfortunately we are at Porthcawl dinner. The Ospreys (the local Swansea team) are away at Munster on Sat night. The only big game in Wales is the Cardiff vs Newport local derby game on Sat night 18.30 KO which will be a bit tight to drive from Pennard. Hey ho we can still watch it on the TV.
Cheers
Ben
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Sean - John is welcomed to bunk with me in a twin. Mike
You're referring to the one night at the dormie, right? I originally wanted to book at a hotel so I could have wifi and keep up with things at work, but I'll figure something out. Once you and/or Sean confirm I'm booked at the dormie, I'll cancel my hotel.
Ben,
I was hoping the rugby schedule would work out.
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Yes, John. I'm part of the dormy contingent for the one night at Porthcrawl and you are welcomed to share with me if a spot comes open for you. Sean is the gatekeeper.
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Sean - John is welcomed to bunk with me in a twin. Mike
You're referring to the one night at the dormie, right? I originally wanted to book at a hotel so I could have wifi and keep up with things at work, but I'll figure something out. Once you and/or Sean confirm I'm booked at the dormie, I'll cancel my hotel.
Ben,
I was hoping the rugby schedule would work out.
John,
The rugby is still a possibility - Its a hours drive to Cardiiff City Stadium where the local derby match will be. Ideally we would have to leav Pennard just after 5pm.
Cheers
Ben
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Ben,
There must be some other clubs in the area that you could get to. As long as you find one with a good bar afterwards where they will here a bit of banter and rugby songs that would be nearly as good or better than going to the big game, no?
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Brian,
Th problem with smaller clubs is that they'll be playing on a Saturday afternoon, not evening, I think.
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Ben,
There must be some other clubs in the area that you could get to. As long as you find one with a good bar afterwards where they will here a bit of banter and rugby songs that would be nearly as good or better than going to the big game, no?
Brian,
Most local rugby matches would kick off at 2.30pm meaning that we would miss the afternoon round at Pennard. I suspect our captain Mr. Muldoon would not be very happy if we ended up in the rugby bar! I will keep looking for any local games with a late KO.
I was actually hoping that the Ospreys were at home that weekend instead they are in Limerick playing Munster. Cardiff vs Newport would be a cracking game as local derby is more intense than the normal league match and its the only one with 18.30 KO.
The M4 helps to speed up the journey from Swansea to Cardiff.
Cheers
Ben
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Don't worry guys the rugby will definitely be on the TV in Pennard clubhouse.
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Don't worry guys the rugby will definitely be on the TV in Pennard clubhouse.
That works for me.
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Last call going once...
Ciao
Last call going twice.
Ciao
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Ok Probably too late because , just like DJ I didn't recognize I had an opportunity until too late and i am on a crazy quest.
But i will be traveling to play in a medal at my home course, Cruden Bay in the weekend following the Buda and if anyone is still unrequited enough too want o play as my guest that weekend I would be delighted to look into the arrangements.
Regards
Ward
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Last call going once...
Ciao
Last call going twice.
Ciao
Gone! I am going to work with the numbers I have as I want to give clubs enough time to re-book unused slots.
Also, for you Clyners, pay attention to the changed tee time. It has been shifted back to 8:30. I had no control over this, but it is beneficial in terms of making the afternoon time at Pennard. Although, this means the dormie housers will need to arrange breakfast earlier than 8am.
Ciao
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Sean
We're only in the Dormie House on the Thursday night, so it will be the good folks of the assorted guest houses of South Wales who will be rising earlier than they would like to fry the bacon!
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Sean
We're only in the Dormie House on the Thursday night, so it will be the good folks of the assorted guest houses of South Wales who will be rising earlier than they would like to fry the bacon!
Doc
Very true!
Is Ross still planning to come down for a free meal on Friday?
Ciao
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Sean
Yes, Ross is still go for that. I'd like our fellow pests to think of some questions for him, as we're thinking of doing an informal Q&A after dinner. Doesn't have to only be about his design work for Celtic Manor, but clearly, he'll be expecting some insightful questions from a very educated audience ;)
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Sean
Yes, Ross is still go for that. I'd like our fellow pests to think of some questions for him, as we're thinking of doing an informal Q&A after dinner. Doesn't have to only be about his design work for Celtic Manor, but clearly, he'll be expecting some insightful questions from a very educated audience ;)
Very fine Doc.
I don't think I have specifically stated this, but JACKET AND TIE ARE REQUIRED AT ROYAL PORTHCAWL. Fore those who are in touch with outlier Pests, please let them know.
Ciao
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VIDEO TOUR of Royal Porthcawl Golf Club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CGSJemya4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CGSJemya4)
I love the ending, with the narrator visiting the Jolly Sailor, just down the street...
"It isn't often you go into a pub and come out with more Brains than you had when you arrived."
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Here are some other videos from the same website:
Pennard
http://www.hiddenlinksgolf.com/courses/course_w_v_Pennard_Wales.html
Southerndown
http://www.hiddenlinksgolf.com/courses/course_w_v_Southerndown_Wales.html
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Speaking of videos.
Michael Robin was kind enough to share a DVD "final rough cut" of his film on Creating Old Macdonald with me. I'll bring it along. If we can figure out somewhere/how to screen it, everyone is in for a real treat. Worst case is a few people at a time can huddle around my laptop.
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All
Please read the original post, it is now updated to reflect the final itinerary and should answer most questions there are answers for! The format(s), match pairings and handicap allowances are still being negotiated by the leaders and best. I am told there will be some changes this year, especially in the sorts of games to be played - should be interesting.
I know some guys will be rolling into the Porthcawl dormie house late on Thursday. It may be an idea for whoever arrives first to check on the keys situation and if need be, collect the keys for the entire group. Remember, folks shouldn't have to hand over any money except for drinks and dinner while at Porthcawl. The green fees and dormie house will be paid in advance.
Ciao
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Great job organizing, Sean, thanks for all the hard work! Looking forward to seeing you lot! ;D
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I know some guys will be rolling into the Porthcawl dormie house late on Thursday. It may be an idea for whoever arrives first to check on the keys situation and if need be, collect the keys for the entire group. Remember, folks shouldn't have to hand over any money except for drinks and dinner while at Porthcawl. The green fees and dormie house will be paid in advance.
I'll be in Wales for a couple of days prior and plan to check in at Porthcawl around 7ish on Thursday evening, so if I'm first to arrive I will collect dormie keys and will see you guys in the clubhouse bar. Can't wait to see and meet everyone. Thanks again Sean for all of your efforts in organizing this great event!
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What Mayday said.
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Mike & Scott - We will miss you guys.
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Sean - John is welcomed to bunk with me in a twin. Mike
I originally wanted to book at a hotel so I could have wifi and keep up with things at work, but I'll figure something out.
John - No worries. I will have a MiFi mobile broadband device with me. Assuming I have a good cell signal at Porthcawl you can use it to access the internet via your laptop's wifi connection.
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Sean
I hope i am booked for both dinners and i am available to play Clyne if there would be room. Thanks Ward
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Sean
I hope i am booked for both dinners and i am available to play Clyne if there would be room. Thanks Ward
Wardy
I am a black n' white kinda guy. Does the above mean you want to play Clyne? In any case, I believe I cancelled the 4th tee time because two dropped out - sorry. However, if you like, I can check to see if it is possible to nick another time.
Ciao
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ROSS MCMURRAY - GUEST SPEAKER - FRIDAY NIGHT - ROYAL PORTHCAWL
My design colleague Ross McMurray, the architect for the 2010 Ryder Cup Course at Celtic Manor, has very kindly offered to come down to Porthcawl on Friday night and do an informal Q&A with the BUDA participants after dinner. I guess he'll talk a little about the task of designing a course for the Ryder Cup too, but we'd like it to be mostly a two-way forum.
This is your chance to put forward questions for Ross, especially for those who aren't going to be lucky enough to be there this year. Anything you like...within reason!
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ROSS MCMURRAY - GUEST SPEAKER - FRIDAY NIGHT - ROYAL PORTHCAWL
My design colleague Ross McMurray, the architect for the 2010 Ryder Cup Course at Celtic Manor, has very kindly offered to come down to Porthcawl on Friday night and do an informal Q&A with the BUDA participants after dinner. I guess he'll talk a little about the task of designing a course for the Ryder Cup too, but we'd like it to be mostly a two-way forum.
This is your chance to put forward questions for Ross, especially for those who aren't going to be lucky enough to be there this year. Anything you like...within reason!
Robin,
Firstly, thank you for organising a great guest speaker to this unique event.
For Ross - Digging up my archives I have found a early proposal by EGD for the 2010 course. Holes 1 to 5 and 14 were built as per the original proposals. 16, 17 and 18 were redesigned - what were the reasons for this?
For everyone here are the original proposals for 16, 17 and 18 - originallly a 5,4,4 finish now a 4,3,5 finish.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff203/bsdesign/RyderCupcourse-Hole16.jpg)
Hole 16
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Hole 17
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Hole 18
Cheers
Ben
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thanks Sean for stellar effort. Looking forward to seeing everyone - especially some of the more exotic and far flung creatures!
Is there any dinner arrangement for the Thursday night that i have missed details of? What time are the rest of the dormie crowd getting to the club that evening? I suspect i will hope to be there c 7pm or so and then be ready to find food!
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thanks Sean for stellar effort. Looking forward to seeing everyone - especially some of the more exotic and far flung creatures!
Is there any dinner arrangement for the Thursday night that i have missed details of? What time are the rest of the dormie crowd getting to the club that evening? I suspect i will hope to be there c 7pm or so and then be ready to find food!
Philip, there are a bunch of us playing at Burnham & Berrow that afternoon, with the earliest tee time at 1:45. Given the required post round two pints and the rather long drive on to Porthcawl, I suspect we'll be arriving more like 9 p.m. and will be ravenously scavenging through the pubs.
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thanks Sean for stellar effort. Looking forward to seeing everyone - especially some of the more exotic and far flung creatures!
Is there any dinner arrangement for the Thursday night that i have missed details of? What time are the rest of the dormie crowd getting to the club that evening? I suspect i will hope to be there c 7pm or so and then be ready to find food!
Philip, there are a bunch of us playing at Burnham & Berrow that afternoon, with the earliest tee time at 1:45. Given the required post round two pints and the rather long drive on to Porthcawl, I suspect we'll be arriving more like 9 p.m. and will be ravenously scavenging through the pubs.
Bill,
I thought I'd just respond as its 1pm onwards we are playing at Burnham. Its about and hour and a half drive from Burnham to porthcawl, but traffic might be busy early evening around Bristol. Its also just occured to me that we need to go over the Severn Bridge which is a Toll Road:
http://www.severnbridge.co.uk/toll_prices.shtml
If we say we'll all be finished at Burnham at about 5.30, an hour or so for drinks then and hour and a half drive, we could be at Porthcawl for more like 8? I've been caught out before with the catering at Burnham so I'm guessing the kitchen will be shut when we finish unless enough people will commit to having some food when we finish and then I can ask if they will stay open? If not we could eat when we get to Porthcawl if we can find a pub still serving?
What do you all think?
Cheers,
James
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thanks Sean for stellar effort. Looking forward to seeing everyone - especially some of the more exotic and far flung creatures!
Is there any dinner arrangement for the Thursday night that i have missed details of? What time are the rest of the dormie crowd getting to the club that evening? I suspect i will hope to be there c 7pm or so and then be ready to find food!
Philip, there are a bunch of us playing at Burnham & Berrow that afternoon, with the earliest tee time at 1:45. Given the required post round two pints and the rather long drive on to Porthcawl, I suspect we'll be arriving more like 9 p.m. and will be ravenously scavenging through the pubs.
Bill,
I thought I'd just respond as its 1pm onwards we are playing at Burnham. Its about and hour and a half drive from Burnham to porthcawl, but traffic might be busy early evening around Bristol. Its also just occured to me that we need to go over the Severn Bridge which is a Toll Road:
http://www.severnbridge.co.uk/toll_prices.shtml
If we say we'll all be finished at Burnham at about 5.30, an hour or so for drinks then and hour and a half drive, we could be at Porthcawl for more like 8? I've been caught out before with the catering at Burnham so I'm guessing the kitchen will be shut when we finish unless enough people will commit to having some food when we finish and then I can ask if they will stay open? If not we could eat when we get to Porthcawl if we can find a pub still serving?
What do you all think?
Cheers,
James
I had Murphy's Law in mind when I thought of 9 p.m. but it could be close! The restaurant in the Seabank Hotel closes at 8 p.m. How continental! ;D
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Wardy
Oh vey! You are in at Clyne. Be there or be square.
Ciao
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The Gower beckons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ejh95ELeaA
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I arrive by car from Heathrow to the Atlantic Hotel with an Ocean room view prob mid afternoon and will be hanging about the Seabank cocktail hour and thereafter offerin myself to wealthy matrons for tea dances if none of you bloody buggers are sober enough to find your way.
The mighty Wardo
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As dinner etc on Friday will clearly extend well into the evening I rang the office at Royal Porthcawl on the off-chance there were any rooms free at the dormie house. It turned out the whole place was empty so I've booked a single and cancelled the first night of my booking in Mumbles (not one of the places recommended by Sean so can't speak for their cancellation policies). Only downside is an earlier start for Clyne Sat am, probably too early for breakfast.
Office is +44 (1656) 782251 for anyone interested.
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Andy,
What's the rate? The same as we're paying on Thursday?
Mark
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I didn't ask but website says £45 single, £40pp twin.
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Andy
Thanks for the heads up. I've extended my stay in Room 3 for a 2nd night. Far more convenient.
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Much more convenient indeed. Conrad and I are now also in the Dormie House on Friday. More time at the bar!
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Thanks for the brilliant thinking Andy! I'm now booked for two nights at Porthcawl's dormie. I am not playing at Clyne so a restful night after Friday's festivities will go a long way...credit to thoughtful preparation for Saturday's (+ my final) match at Pennard.
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First let me say that Ross McMurray's presentation after dinner last night was outstanding. Thank you Ross for taking the time to share with us!
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Learning the inside scoop for the upcoming Ryder Cup venue from the designer of the Twenty-Ten Course was truly a treat.
A question: Is The BUDA the aorta in the body of gca.com?
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I want to thank the host team, the guys from over here, Cpt. Tony, Mark, Conrad, Booney, Robin, Ben, Philip, Peter, Lorne, Ally and Andy (I hope I didn't leave out anyone) for making us feel so welcomed.
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The BUDA truly is the 'world version' of the GCA Live Experience.
I'd also like to thank our Captain. He is a great guy to play for and he is the epitome of a gentleman golfer. Man he's a great partner in Chapman!
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Color me a confirmed Budanista, borrowing from Mr. Pepper. I shall never miss one, ever.
Now, we're off to Pennard and we're tied 5-5. It's been a great time so far.
USA. USA! USA!!
BUDA! BUDA!! BUDA!!!
PORTHCAWL! PORTHCAWL!! PORTHCAWL!!!
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[WARDO! WARDO!! WARDO!!!]
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Lastly, I want to thank my teammates. What a great group of guys you all are. Thanks for your friendship and thanks for that beautiful afternoon comeback!!
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Wardo! Wardo!! Wardo!!!
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last two pics...
same pose, different attire. Nice!! :)
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Like Eric i had to leave early - I am sure everyone had a fine time today at Pennard.
A big thanks to Sean and the skippers for organisational services.
A big thanks too especially to our US brethren for making the trip. Bill Mcbride, of course, is the acknowledged Buda god. But thank you too for Craig, Eric, Jason, Lou ( I am sorry we did not get to play this time Lou - I hope there is a next time? And delighted your wife joined us - i hope she had a good time), Mike, John, Ward, Joe (forgive me for missed names) for all coming and adding some colour to the event. Indianapolis, Louisville, Kentucky, DC, Pensacola, Nashville, Dallas....what an amazing collection. Bill offered a toast to Ran during our Portchawal dinner for what he had achieved via GCA and occasions like this remind us.
For those reading from afar, you should visit all these courses! We were blessed by the weather at Porthcawl and Clyne in particular. The former is full of character, right on the sea, with some favbulous holes - 2 and 3 were fabulous, and 18 with its finish taking you straight down to the sea was a lot of fun. I am also a big fan of Clyne - anyone who likes soul golf should visit. Pennard has been discussed enough here and remains a jewel.
Now I look forward to hearing how today went - and discovering where the hot money is for next year!
Philip
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Is there anyone better than the venerable Mr. Whitaker?
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Dear BUDA guys,
I would like to say thanks for a great event and putting faces to names - what great characters to play with and discuss GCA with. ;D.
Sean - thanks for organising this event and enabling us to get on Royal Porthcawl and Pennard. I must admit that the strengths of Pennard is growing on me each day. Porthcawl - it was great to go back there after a while and its still the best golf course in Wales in my eyes.
Mike and Tony - thanks for being great captains and putting into so much effort to try and pair everyone together - not an easy task.
The highlights of the event for me were -
Mike mistaking me for Wardo in the presentation at Porthcawl 'hey I'm not wearing a bow tie and my hair is not grey!' :)
Ross McMurray's presentation - first class and very informative about the upcoming Ryder Cup.
Craig Disher's golfing ability to hit the ball straight all the time while having the club at 45 deg open at address ???
Wardo's wardrobe collection - those black and white checked trousers were awesome
Mark Pearce's yellow attire and mojo band - is yellow a lucky colour for you Mark?
Joe Buehler's great dive over the wire fence at Pennard to avoid a nasty electric shock in the nether regions that any footballer would be proud of his Superman manouvre!
Learning the American accent!
The cow in the middle of the fairway having a BIG crap which interrupted my opening tee shot at Pennard!
Really look forward to next year's BUDA. I look forward with ancipation on the announcement of next year's venue.
Cheers
BB
Will be back next year to play properly (Apologies to Mark Pearce and Robin Hiseman for playing so bad thanks to my bleedin' back)