Golf Club Atlas
GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: rhobbs on July 23, 2002, 03:05:14 PM
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Seminole
Pebble Beach
Bandon Dunes
Baltusral
Augusta National
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National Golf Links of America
Sand Hills
Merion
I think the last there might be the coolest of all...
TH
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How about the Stonewall COW!
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What about the Dooks' Toad?
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Pine Valley - Members Logo
Salem Country Club - Ma. - Witch
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Best
Kapalua
Colliers Reserve
Sand Hills
Worst
Torrey Pines
Pebble (personal preference)
ubiqitous late 80's Landmark Oak Tree
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How does the Pine Valley member's logo differ from the ones in their pro shop?
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Course or club?
R&A
Sankaty Head
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RH Hobbs:
The Pine Valley logo you can buy in the pro shop has the logo and says Pine Valley.
The Members' simply have the logo with no mention of Pine Valley.
Cheers
Dave
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Thanks for the info.
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Ah yes, well said Mr. Huntley. The R&A logo is indeed the coolest of all... that trumps all others every time!
TH
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Tom
I agree. Merion's is really cool. Very understated.
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St. Andrews, Cypress Point, Bluffs (Dogwood flower)
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Hod - as you can tell I kinda favor the understated. And what struck me as particularly cool about Merion's is that as a Californian, it wasn't obvious to me.. I had to look at it and think about it for a second to "get" what it was... but then I knocked my head for even taking that long!
Same goes for R&A... if you just see their logo and don't know what it is, with a little thought you surely can figure it out...
NGLA one just plain needs to know - no figuring that one out. But it is just plain "neat", to me anyway....
I kinda like Winged Foot and Olympic also, in this understated vein... there are many others.
TH
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Blackwolf Run
The El Diablo
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Hands down, Bellewood outside Philadelphia.
http://www.bellewoodgolf.com/security.htm
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Looks like the Philadelphia area wins for regional sets of Logos!!
Bellewood
Pine Valley
Merion
and My personal favorite ...Stonewall
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Tom
The great thing about Merion's is that you could figure it out without the name on it (obviously the name was not on it). But that to me is what makes great logos...without the name you know whose it is. Maybe that goes to tradition. Castle Pines has a great logo. I kinda like the Kaanapali whale, too. Maybe not as much as the Pink Dog, though.
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Hod - absolutely right on - I am with you 100%. Are there any other good examples of this?
TH
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The purple cow at Taconic??
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Two other I forgot
Talking Stick & Troon North
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Tom
I think Augusta's logo has almost become its own brand. Pebble's may be close to that also.
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Hod - no doubt re both of those... Pebble's particularly is splashed so ubiquitously that it seems to have lost any meaning. It WAS a great logo at one time....
TH
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What about the Fire Breathing Dragon for Lagoon Legend? I just wish it was a little bigger on the shirt I bought.
Some subtle but classy logos are Camp Creek, Sand Hills (pretty clever to work it like a ranch brand), and Merion.
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i've always liked Fishers Isl.
ever notice similarities in logos?
Shinnecock/Wampanoag/Seminole (that's more an evolution)
Creek/Machrihanish?
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Okay guys here comes the first picture of Sand Hills that I have been promising for ages.
(http://home.c2i.net/pgd/SHlogo.jpg)
I think this is the best logo...
This picture was taken at 0530 as the sun was coming up on a Saturday morning.
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You lucky bastard.
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Has anyone ever seen the logo for the Lido club?
Cheers.
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Many of the Clubs with the great Indian Names have similar logos.
Shinnecock/Aronimink/Seminole/Wampanoag.
Best
Dave
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Seeing Geoffrey C's name come up on another thread reminded me of another GREAT logo: YALE! It might be obvious for you east coasters or Ivy leaguers, but out here that one always gets a few looks and comments. I dig that that nasty bulldog!
TH
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Everyone's a critic!
Which is as it should be.
But (I'll be the critic now) this sure would be a much
better thread if you guys would (a) describe the logos
you're touting, for those of us who've never seen them,
and (b) say why they're such good logos.
I like Sand Hills' logo -- because it's unusual, and because I
have such fond memories of the place. Every ball mark I've
repaired since 1996 has been repaired with a Sand Hills ball-
mark repair tool -- and I've often stopped to enjoy the logo.
But is it a great logo, in terms of its design? I don't know.
The rolling, dunesy quality of the S is very nice. I see a
cattle brand when I look at it; I see both a horse and a bird,
too -- and all of that seems apropos. But, honestly, I don't
see ANYTHING in it that suggests GOLF -- which, to me, is an
absence that keeps it from being a GREAT logo. Seems to me
it ought to include some extremely subtle allusion to golf
(extremely subtle! not a golf pin-and-flag sticking out of it, or
something) -- and if there's any such allusion there, I'm
missing it.
Does anyone see something I'm missing?
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I like the Sand Hills logo because it DOES NOT convey anything about golf, but rather about the location... My keys hang from a SHGC keychain so I see it every day and it reminds me of the solitude found there.
I believe I've explained why I like the other logoes (sp.?) I've mentioned. ;D
TH
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Brian,
Wonderful picture.
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Many of you probably know this but the logo you get at the MAsters during the tournament is different from the ANGC club logo. The golf ball logo you get at the tourney is yellow and the one you get in the pro shop is white.
Different but hmm. As for logos I went thru my golf balls Ive collected from Scotland and
Western Gailes is good...with the two arms.
Ganton I like with the blooming yellow gorse.
Red squirrel of LAdybank...kinda stupid but rememberable
Swinley Forrest....only know it if you see it.
In the US: I like Ocean Forrest, Pumpkin Ridge is visually rememberable.
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OLYMPIC CLUB. The wings, The O, It's awesome.
www.olyclub.com
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How about the headless horseman at Sleepy Hollow!
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Look at Merion's website for the wicker basket and scottish broom logo.
www.meriongolfclub.com
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Many of the logos from the clubs cited are pretty neat.
As for Sand Hills, if that logo were for any other club,
noone would mention it.
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Bill Kittleman, Merion's all time Pro/Keeper of the Classic image/Maker of its look, designed its logo.
Let us not forget his input!
Willie
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I'm obviously partial to NGLA and the NLE Links club with the Delft tile figures but I think Fishers Island ranks very high - says nothing, just the shape of the island and a flag sticking up
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i can't believe no one mentioned probably one of the best all time logos; myopia hunt club {the fox head and bugle} with winged foot and sleepy hollow close behind.
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Mike Nuzzo: Interesting you asking about Lido (original Lido) - I never thought about it and I have tons of material about the course but I never saw a logo.
Sleepy Hollow: headless horseman
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Hell's Point Golf Club-Great Red Devil Logo!!!
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Patrick:
Your statement regarding the Sand Hills logo is illogical.
Fact is there could be no other logo for Sand Hills just as there could be no other for Merion. They are perfect.
Conversely, there are no other clubs for which these logos are appropro.
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Patrick;
The Sand Hills logo fits the club perfectly. There is no pretense, no excess, no extraneous attempts at impressing anyone, except for those with an appreciation of elegant simplicity.
What it does exemplify is the integration of the course and club with the sand hills prairie region, and its historic past....settled by native Americans, co-opted by ranching settlers, and finally evolved into what is simply the most low-key natural retreat on the planet.
The Sand Hills logo stands for refreshing simplicity and adherence to basic values and traditions. Anything grander or gaudier would simply be inappropriate to a place where only natural golf and the playing of same remains king on land that has been used "as is" for the enjoyment and enhancement and proof-positive example of what is still possible...golf as we all here imagine it could and should be.
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Merion's is my favorite. Like the Stonewall cow with the
club in his mouth as well.
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Mike:
Beautifully stated clearly defining what I meant by the Sand Hills logo being "perfect".
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Many of the logos from the clubs cited are pretty neat.
As for Sand Hills, if that logo were for any other club,
noone would mention it.
Pat:
Correct. But never have I driven 5 hours and seen nothing but plains, interstate, and cattle ranches. A brand wouldn't make sense for some other course.
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One of my least favorite is Pasatiempo. The logo looks like it should belong to a Mexican restaurant.
Top left:
http://www.pasatiempo.com/golf.htm
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How about Glen Abbey in Canada and their "Swinging Monk" logo. What a great logo based on the fact that the course was built on the grounds of an old monestary.
Also I saw people talking about the Bellewood logo. I dont know if everyone knows that the pink dog in the logo comes from the numerous pink dogwood trees lining the 18th fairway.
How about special mention to the swinging B.C. character for En-joie GC in Endicott, NY home of last weeks B.C. Open. Not what I would call a fitting logo for one of the great classics, but you have to admit it is a great fun logo.
Also surprised that we have not heard at least one mention for the Oakmont Squirrel.
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I like Pasatiempo's logo. I guess the reference to the Mexican restaurant pays some tribute to the Spanish influence.
Name considered, I think it does an excellent job.
Seminole is great, another vote for the understated.
Sand Hills looks great.
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Is there a different logo for members of Seminole versus the outside guests logo? The only logo I have seen is one of the Seminole Indian inside a circle.
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Here's better than a description.
http://www.destinationkohler.com/bwr/bwr.html
Also check out the photo gallery, if you've never been.
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I have to second John's choice in the Lagoon Legend logo... back when the course was younger and didn't have all the houses surrounding every fairway the logo was a perfect sign of what a wild and breathtaking round awaited every player that braved the challenge... not to mention one of my all-time favorite course names. Sadly, the course doesn't quite carry the "bite" that it used to and none of the holes (now surrounded by little vacation homes with screened in swimming pools) quite have that aura of adventure that the course used to posess.
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Mike Cirba --
Very nicely stated case for the Sand Hills logo. I still wish there were some EXTREMELY SUBTLE allusion to golf -- so subtle that most wouldn't even see it, even if they were looking for it.
Hell, maybe it's there already, and I'm not sensitive enough to see it!
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A_Clay_Man's reference to Blackwolf Run reminds me:
I've somehow missed all commentary on the Irish Course.
Has anyone here played it? What did you think?
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Bellwood wins. Hands down.
Bob
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Mike Cirba --
Very nicely stated case for the Sand Hills logo. I still wish there were some EXTREMELY SUBTLE allusion to golf -- so subtle that most wouldn't even see it, even if they were looking for it.
Hell, maybe it's there already, and I'm not sensitive enough to see it!
No, it's not there, Dan - and that's the beauty of it. Mike did describe it perfectly and for me it goes beyond that... as I said above, the fact is DOESN'T have any golf connotation is what makes it great in my book.
TH
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Dan,
I played the Irish course, and intend to again in August. The problem is the comparison to the straits golf course. It does not get any of the lake front land and the carts and cart pathes detract significantly.
That said, I like the Meadow course better, but many prefer the Irish. If you play it, play it before the Straits and it will seem better in your mind.
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Right on, shivas! As you can tell reading this, I kinda prefer the older and those that have some connection to the club history or the surrounding area or something not so obvious... to that end, a course here in San Jose which we've discussed a few times on here has a darn neat logo, I think. Cinnabar Hills - check it out - that's a red-tailed hawk, apparently indigenous to the area.... the hawk logo appears without the words on a lot of their stuff (hats, shirts, etc.)... they make ball-markers in that shape, that whilst likely illegal are pretty neat...
TH
http://www.cinnabarhills.com/
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Has anyone seen the Maidstone whale?
I got two scorecards when I was there. One, with a very traditional, embroidery logo, and another with a blue whale happily swimming along.
Not sure if one is for members vs guest, but they both are pretty good and interestingly varied.
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I am collecting top 100 logo balls. I have many duplicates if anyone is interested in trading, I would be glad to post a list of which I have.
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The Honors Course has a very nice understated logo also, just a large jug(?) usually shown with "The Honors" printed just below it.
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Logo for Secession works well without any text or words.
My favs are Sand Hills, Winged Foot, Salem, and Merion..
Best book on logos .... check out the MGA's book -
"A Centennial History of Golf in the Met Area” .... logos are shown for most all MGA member courses. A logo nut's delight !
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Forest Creek is pretty good! Of course the understated simplicity of Merion is hard to beat, as well as the PV tree w/out the words. Apparently the newest trend in logoed clothing is a the "Member" logo. This is particularly used at clubs with a "National" membership and serves as a means for members identifying each other. Forest Creek has a member logo without the words.
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Gene & Mike,
Based on your appraisal of the Sand Hills Logo, why haven't you championed the Caves Valley Logo which is similar in form ?
If Sand Hills was a mediocre golf course would you feel the same way about the logo ?
Perhaps I need more visual stimulation, SH just doesn't compare to many of the neat logos mentioned, but that's just my opinion.
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Patrick,
Before you critize the SH logo (or any others) we may want to make sure you've played the course!
:)
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Pat - you didn't ask me, but I'll step in anyway and say I really like the Caves Valley logo also. It's not a "brand" per se like Sand Hills, but the interlocking letters are similar... to me the sloped C conveys the hills of Caves Valley... and I also just do like the understated nature of it.
I also fully enjoyed Caves Valley as a golf course, as opposed to others, if that matters....
One can never fully disconnect the logo from the course - that is, the greatest logo in the world won't mean much if it comes from a crappy course. That is what you're getting at, correct?
Sand Hills is a great logo. But if it sucked, I would say so also. I love Pebble Beach but I find their logo to be just say too overdone, for example....
TH
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I'm with Pat here, which may be a dangerous spot.
When I first saw it, I thought it was TH, not SH.
and as far as what Mike says:
What it does exemplify is the integration of the course and club with the sand hills prairie region, and its historic past....settled by native Americans, co-opted by ranching settlers, and finally evolved into what is simply the most low-key natural retreat on the planet.
I fail to see the SH logo as romantically as he does, but then again I've never been to the place. ;) :( :-[ :'(
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If I'm not mistaken, RHOBBS in his original post didn't mention logos in the context of having played the golf course.
He asked about the best golf course LOGOS.
If you fellows are raving about the Sand Hills logo, you've got to be kidding.
It may be a World Class golf course, but the logo is plain at best. If this was the logo for a mediocre muni in Texas, no one would dare mention it.
And I thought only kids indulged in HERO worship.
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Patrick;
A logo is "a unique symbol or design that represents a concept or entity", in this case a golf club/course.
How then can you take the logo out of the context of what it is supposed to represent and have it be meaningfully understood or appreciated?
Are we simply supposed to look at a logo, and say, "ohhhh...awwww...cool drawing!", completely divorced from the understanding and awareness of what it is supposed to represent?
Who am I "HERO worshipping"? The creator of the Sand Hills logo, whoever that might be??
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Well Pat, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like the simple and somehow elegant Sand Hills logo, and the fact it's perfect for the course in question just cements things - for me. Wild Horse also uses this "brand"-type logo, and to me it's pretty neat as well. To each his own.
Is this an art discussion or a golf discussion? It seems quite silly to me to disconnect the logo from the course. We're discussing GOLF COURSE logoes, not logoes in general... to that end, I feel a certain bias toward the Clorox "diamond." I also like Coca-Cola. But is that the discussion here?
TH
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Pretty funny, Mike. We seem to have said the exact same thing in two very different ways. So all I can now say is... YEAH, WHAT HE SAID!
;)
TH
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If Sand Hills was a mediocre golf course would you feel the same way about the logo ?
Pat: If Sand Hills were a mediocre golf course no one outside of Hooker County would see it. The Brand makes sense because of the location.
I could say that clubs with National in the name are pretentious, but it somehow works for a club in a sleepy Southern town that really does have a national membership.
Baker National - County owned course near Minneapolis.
Hazeltine National - All members in Western Twin Cities.
Hudson National - Members all NYC folks.
Naples National - National membership, but these people would be in Naples in the winter anyway.
Long Island National - etc...
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I would also add the clever and simple "G" logo encased in a picture frame for The Gallery Golf Club. No, it doesn't have anything to do with golf, but, it too, is a logo that accurately portrays the image of the club and the clubhouse. Clever use of color and playing on the name of the club.
For those of you who might visit Tucson this winter, you should have your pro call them and set up a tee time. It is a very good John Fought design with beautiful bunkering.
http://www.gallerygolf.com/
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Mike Cirba, et.al.,
You're under the spell of the golf course, with a full blown case of HERO worship.
If you were in an airport, and you were a tennis player, unfamiliar with golf, and you saw people wearing golf shirts from all of the clubs mentioned, are you going to tell me that you would look at the Sand Hills Logo and say, "WOW, now there's a really neat and DISTINCTIVE logo.
Come on, you must be kidding.
I've seen so many neat logos on golf shirts and the first thing I do is ask the individual wearing the shirt, where the logo is from. I have NO predetermined knowledge of the golf course it represents, but the LOGO itself, is great.
You're being influenced by the golf course,
not the GRAPHIC DESIGN and UNIQUENESS OF THE LOGO.
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Wow Pat, you are really missing the point here.
Ok, I'm easy, it's fourth and long and the kicking team is coming out. You're right, the logo itself is all that matters, not what course it comes from. We are indeed judging art, I guess.
I don't think any of us who praised the Sand Hills logo did so for its graphic design or uniqueness really - we praised it because it evokes all that it should about a great golf course. If it didn't, any of us would say so, as I keep saying about Pebble Beach (great course that I do worship, don't like the logo).
I really don't see why this is so difficult to understand and why liking the logo equates to hero worship... but the kick is away and it's your ball.
TH
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Pat,
Just because someone loves a course & the logo, you think it's hero worship? Come on!!!
When I said before about you need to play the course to comment about the logo, it was very toungue-in-cheek refereing to your stance on not allowing comments about a course w/out playing.
The whole idea that one would challange someone's opinion on what they thought looked cool for a logo is somewhat laughable. I for one think the GRAPHIC DESIGN and UNIQUENESS OF THE LOGO are screaming at you in the SH. There ain't no animal, there ain't no golf item, there ain't no plant life. Just a cool font tied together.
I for one think the Bellewoood logo pretty obnoxious, but I ain't going to come down on those who do.
I like this, you like that so be it. Let's play another 18!!
:)
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For a number of years after Crooked Stick opened, the club had as a logo a rendering of a crude golf club made from a tree branch (crooked stick) with the words "The Stick" printed below. Pretty neat.
As to another Indiana golf landmark, the French Lick logo is not nearly as exciting as one might imagine.
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The green and yellow squirrel from The Country Club (Brookline) is very simple and classy. Everything about The National, including its logo, is tops with me.
Best modern course logo: The hummingbird swirls from Castle Pines and the bull with the clubs from Stonewall (tie).
Simplicity is the key (Shoreacres and Sand Hills get high marks for this reason). Any logo which tries to depict a scene (e.g., The Merit Club) sucks.
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Also, one I forgot to add:
Nantucket Golf Club with a bending flagstick in the wind is very good.
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Tom Huckaby,
You admit that the logo is indicative of a great golf course, but you don't know that, and the LOGO couldn't evoke any feelings about the golf course unless you're preinformed and predisposed, and that taints or influences your opinion regarding the LOGO. Without that information, the LOGO on its own is bland.
Other LOGOS mentioned need no additional information to meet the neat/cool test, they speak for themselves.
The branded look only has significance if you understand far more about the club, its location and its history.
It's simply, as John f put it, a font, to the stranger.
John f,
I understood the tongue in cheek nature of your post, and I think we all realize that the whole subject matter is subjective
Tom Egan,
Another neat thing about Crooked Stick's LOGO is the history behind and associated with it.
It would be nice to discover the history behind all of the logos mentioned above.
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How about BEARPATH with the bunker, green, and flagstick forming the bear's face, mouth, and eyes? Brilliant.
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Pat M.:
We will obviously disagree on this one. To me and nearly everyone else that plays there, the brand makes sense because the only commerce in the most desolate part of America is the cattle trade. It works at Sand Hills and wouldn't work anywhere else.
If I designed a course in Florida and had a railcar as the logo you'd say it was stupid. And you'd be right. Use the same graphic for Pete Dye G.C. and it becomes appropriate. But you'd still say it is stupid because matching the design of the logo to the character of a club shouldn't affect commentary on just the logo.
Maybe I've got it backward and you'd say the railcar logo for a Florida course is good, in which case it would still be good in W.V.
Merion's wicker basket is either a lousy or wonderful logo. Several voted for it here. But - in my opinion - it would look ridiculous at a course that had 7' yellow flagsticks with "finish line" checkerboard flags.
No matter what I say or anyone points out you will believe the SH brand a la the multitude of neighboring ranches is not a good logo.
Take a plaid pattern to Italy and brag to your paesanos that it is the Mucci family design. You'd get a lot of strange looks. Go to Scotland with the same swatch and call it the McMucci crest and you'll have friends for life.
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Tom Egan,
Another neat thing about Crooked Stick's LOGO is the history behind and associated with it.
It would be nice to discover the history behind all of the logos mentioned above.
If the history behind the SH brand isn't meaningful, why is the history of the logo at Crooked Stick relevant?
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If you were in an airport, and you were a tennis player, unfamiliar with golf, and you saw people wearing golf shirts from all of the clubs mentioned, are you going to tell me that you would look at the Sand Hills Logo and say, "WOW, now there's a really neat and DISTINCTIVE logo.
Come on, you must be kidding.
A naked silhouette of Anna Kournikova would look odd on a tennis shirt, and certainly wouldn't be a "great" logo. Yet it WOULD BE a conversation piece.
The NBA logo isn't a "great" logo, but it probably does get elevated to a higher stature when fans of the game realize it is of Jerry West. Does anyone ever ask, "Who dat?" Probably not.
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Pat M:
John Conley has explained this perfectly re the Sand Hills logo. If you don't get this, then game over, no need to discuss further. YES, the logo is great because the course is great. I simply take that as a given, for the reasons John gives...
Your take on this really amazes me... it is so fundamental and obvious, I think... But hey, to each his own!
TH
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I played at Merion and like the logo but one of the people I was playing with didn't buy a shirt in the shop because he thought the log was 'crap'. ;D
And, really it is on it's own, but this is Merion so I think the log is great.
Just the same as Sand Hills, the logo is great because it is Sand Hill. The picture I took is fantastic, not because of the sunrise but because of the logo and the sunrise together. That's the whole point of a logo. Not only should it look great but it should mean somthing as well.
Brian.
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John Conley,
You stated,
"to me and nearly everyone else that plays there.."
And that's my point, the evaluation of the LOGO is only in the context of having played the golf course, the LOGO doesn't stand on its own, when the viewer hasn't played the golf course or doesn't know anything about it.
The SH LOGO only derives its appeal through the playing experience, the golf course.
My statement about the history of LOGOS was unviversal, not limited to one club, or exclusionary to any one club.
Brian Philips,
I mentioned above that the entire discussion was subjective.
Each individual has their own taste, their own idea of what they find attractive or unattractive about a logo.
Philadelphia Cricket Club
Canterbury
Preston Trail
Pinehurst
Boca Rio
Garden City
Pine Tree
Tom Huckaby,
I can't believe that you really feel that Sand Hills' LOGO, without any knowledge of the golf course is great ?
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Tom Huckaby,
I can't believe that you really feel that Sand Hills' LOGO, without any knowledge of the golf course is great ?
I must be the worst writer in the history of the English language.
OK, here's my fourth try. No Pat, the logo is great because it evokes a lot of the reasons why the golf course is great. Standing alone on a tennis shirt with no knowledge of Sand Hills GC, it is just a brand and could just as well be a logo for a cattle driving company. But the fact is, it's a logo for a golf course and for anyone that knows the course, it is indeed very cool. And for these reasons, yes, the logo is "great". To me, anyway. If they had a logo with big blaring SAND HILLS GOLF CLUB in 20 point type over a self-produced fake crest, the logo would patently suck, no matter how great the golf course is.
I've said several times that disconnecting these logoes from the courses they represent is to me very silly. I am not a judge of art. I like the logoes for what they evoke, which are golf courses.
I believe I made this very plain.
Is the Clorox diamond (our logo) a great work or art? Hell no. But we believe it conveys what we want to convey about our company, and thus we like it, and have won awards for it. If you saw it on a golf shirt though it would be quite stupid, to anyone other than me that is!
I hope this makes better sense. To me these really are simple concepts... It continues to amaze me you miss them and I can only blame my poor writing skill.
TH
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Tom Huckaby,
I now understand and it sounds like we are in agreement.
What is interesting is the number of hits to this thread.
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Very well - thanks, Pat! And yes, it's curious to me also how much interest there is in logoes... Of course, maybe it's not so curious, given how every time I play golf with folks who participate here the "logo battle" is a great part of the fun!
TH
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Nobody likes Taconic's purple cow, huh?
I don't remember if there's an udder on the rendering, or not.
Would it make the logo better if there was or wasn't an udder?
Is the quality of the golf course effected by the presence or lack of an udder on the cow in the logo?
Does this question deserve serious debate?
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Pat:
We are talking on a thread about "Golf Course Logos". It is pretty hard to comment on how they'd stand alone.
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I have to agree with Pat on this one...the Sand Hills logo is just not that good as a logo alone...I find the S as it sits at an unnatural angle to be too long when compared to the H. I also don't see it being used as a brand for livestock because after repeated heating and cooling I think the connection between the S and H would become fagile and lead to poor identification in the case of a lost bovine. This would not prevent me from buying a shirt because the course is great.
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Chipoat --
So long as the course didn't have an udder-shaped bunker ...
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Chip - I agree with you.
I thought that the purple cow was the Williams mascot, and not part of Taconic's logo.
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Years ago, Preakness Hills CC had a reasonably attractive LOGO, a little busy but okay.
One day a registered letter arrived from an attorney for a club in Florida, claiming that Preakness Hills had copied their LOGO, and demanding that we change our LOGO. No one had ever heard of the club, nor seen its LOGO.
Rather than negotiate or fight the alleged copying charge, the club decided to create a new LOGO. Months and months of work went into the process and finally, after input from many sources, and the decision by those chosen to embark on the task, a new LOGO was adopted.
It has to be one of the ugliest LOGOs ever created.
No one would buy a shirt for the purpose of displaying this LOGO, and pro shop sales of shirts displaying the new LOGO took a nosedive. If it wasn't for bad taste, some people would have no taste at all.
Now, years later, we're about to design a new logo, some of us are hopeful that a simple but elegant LOGO will be designed and adopted. BUT, time alone will tell.
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Following up on rhobbs' question: is there a different Seminole members logo vs. outside guest logo, and, if so, what is the difference?
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Bill,
To my knowledge the logo that appears on the merchandise in the Pro shop is the same.
I don't know if there is a special order logo reserved for members, but I haven't seen a distinction.
Perhaps certain items are restricted to Member orders, like license plate brackets or club Jackets.
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Actually the reason I had brought this up earlier was that I had seen two different logos. One was just the head of a Seminole Indian. Another time I saw a picture of Jack Welch with a Seminole Indian with a circle around the Indian head. I just wasn't sure if there was a different one or not.
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rhobbs,
Now that you mention it, I think I have seen both LOGOS.
Perhaps it's a difference in style or change made one year.
I'm curious and will try to get the answer.
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I think a logo is very important to a club or a public facility. We feel that the logo of Blue Heron Pines is very good and sells shirts. I also like Pine Valley's logo. In Ireland I like Tralee.
I think private clubs should have a more understated logo.
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The logo on a shirt I've gotten the most comments about it Sunnybrook's (Philly). It might be the smallest of any logo anywhere.
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I must say that I have always liked the Gulph Mills logo, long before I ever had the pleasure of meeting the one and only. It is elegant and understated (the logo, not Tommy), as is the club. The sign at the club entrance only has the logo on it where it quietly greets those in the know. I have a GMGC belt with the logos all around although it hardly fits anymore; have to get a longer one next time I'm over there.
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I like the logo at Yale, Cypress, Kingsley Club, and Meadow Club.
My favorite though is Merion.
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East Hampton Golf Club had as their original logo a red tail hawk that I thought was one of the coolest I had seen. Alas, when I played there again this summer the Pro told me that they were going to change it. Anyone know what the new logo is going to be?
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The Creek in LI has a bird with a golf club. too cool!
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The madness has gone on long enough. Five pages and nobody has mentioned Harbour Town? It's cool, classy and unique.
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Is the silhouette in the NBDL logo supposed to be of anyone in particular?
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How about Mid Ocean, Classy and cool. Garden City? Homage to the origins of the game.
For an opinion, the Sand Hills logo by itself is nothing. Pebble Beach is so commercial it fits the resort perfectly. Logo or experience?
As for Merion, did they leave any scotch broom with the restoration?
Logos change, it is fun to see the various logos at a club over time as they evolve.
The original Pine Valley logo may be the best though, there is a roughly drawn scragly tree with old fashioned letters P.V.G.C. underneath, periods included. Carved out of metal en bas relief, one can see this logo in the dining room and when you drive in.
With all the course restoration, why not restore the oldest logos, too?
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NGLA
I have to admit I like all the old Landmark course logos with the Oak Tree.
Jeff F.
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I also like:
Burning Tree (evergreen tree on fire)
Myopia Hunt (bugle above head of a fox)
Black Diamond (black diamond)
Jupiter Hills (just the name of the club in an unusual font)
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Merion's logo is certainly the best !! Another great one is Garden city..
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Friar's Head....
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Does anyone have an example of the Merion logo? I have also heard it is very cool.
Also -- Baltusrol is nice
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I have a Merion Logoed shirt that one of my closests friends who I have never met sent me...and I find it to be interesting but slightly large. I don't recall ever seeing a logo too small but often find a large logo oftputting.
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I'm shocked, stunned, and overwhelmed that not a single person has mentioned Portmarnock Golf Club's logo. A sandpiper is in the middle and I personally believe this is one of the sweetest logo's I've seen and collected.
NGLA gets my vote for quaintness and sits along side Port for all-time favorite.
Here is the addy for Portmatnock - note, I have a much cleaner and brighter image of the logo - but you get the idea.
http://www.portmarnockgolfclub.ie/
Take care,
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RSB - that is a VERY cool logo indeed! I just didn't buy anything there (I was too cheap at the time) and thus didn't remember it.
By the way, what does the "BE" and "UP" signify?
TH
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Here are my favorites:
Bitterman and Vic Meade Hunt Club
Ocean Forest
Pinehurst (Putter Boy)
ANGC
Merion
RTJ
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Does anyone have a picture of the logo from Sleepy Hollow or Maidstone that they could post?
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Tom,
"Be up" to the hole. If your game was more like mine you would have figured it out instantly. :P
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Myopia Hunt (fox w/ horn)
Salem (witch on broom)
Seminole (Indian)
Kinloch (St Andrews Cross w/ U.S. Amateur Trophy)
Kapalua (butterfly w/ pineapple)
Turnberry (lighthouse)
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Tom,
"Be up" to the hole. If your game was more like mine you would have figured it out instantly. :P
I thought of that, Ed - but that is just too simple, too obvious, and to me doesn't reflect anything about the course.. I might say that at a mountain golf course with lots of forced carries, but at this wonderful links?
Interesting. I guess I was looking for an acronym or something but that does make sense.
I love being Irish.
TH
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Bulls Bay in Charleston, Mike Strantz's lastest has a neat logo done by Mike himself. I understand he was a commercial artist at one point and doodled up the new Bulls Bay logo himself.
http://www.bullsbaygolf.com/
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Met Golfer magazine's choice in their best of the best (several years ago) was Garden City Golf Club. I have always loved that logo. I also believe that the logos of Winged Foot, Quaker Ridge and Baltusrol belong on any ten best list. ::)
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Walton Heath (see the thread below).
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How can anyone omit Bethpage logo.. can't you just see yourself as the little pot-belly kid? pretty cool indeed. :)
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quite frankly the best logo of any club has to be Winged Foot,very subtle and everybody knows its WFGC! :)
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gmcjr,
What is the logo of the NYAC ?
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A big yes to Fishers Island. The old Country Club squirrel was pretty neat too.
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Just remembered one that always got a great response: Salem GC
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I love the two geometric hummingbirds of Castle Pines Golf Club. I also like the Cherry Hills logo. Finally, Spanish Oaks in Austin Texas is a very nice understated logo. None give any hint of the significance or orgin except to those in the know. The worst I have seen to date is Flint Hill National in Wichita. Might as well install a friggin neon sign on every golf shirt sold in the pro shop.
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The worst logo I've seen is from The Links at Twin Towers.
The logo sported the two massive nuclear reactor cooling towers that apparently dominate the course's background.
Fortunately, they've changed their name to something else.
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bringing back this oldie cause I had my shirt from the Dunes Club on today: the "D" is a bent golf club, very cool
I also really like my hat from Five Farms: anything with a pre-1900 date is automatically great, I'd think...
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bringing back this oldie cause I had my shirt from the Dunes Club on today: the "D" is a bent golf club, very cool
I also really like my hat from Five Farms: anything with a pre-1900 date is automatically great, I'd think...
Wow...this thread is old! Good point, Paul-"Old" is oftentimes very, very good.
Preferably, any logo that doesn't have the club's name on it. If it doesn't have a golf club, or golf balls, or any reference to golf, even better. In my closet, my Burning Tree shirt is a favorite for that reason.
Wayne Freeman and I thought The Creek's was interesting (Piping Plover) although it has a golf club. Fitting to the club.
My opinion is the best are the most understated. As I get older I find I like logoed items less and less.
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Without reading the thread... I like Schuylkill CC's and Philly Cricket's.
Doug likes their flags ;)
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I wonder if Pat's opinion of the Sand Hills LOGO has changed? :)
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Merion's logo has always been the best for me
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I think it all starts and ends with the R&A logo.
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I have to give The Emperor his due as the Friars Head logo is my favorite with Merion a close second. Castle Pines is also a pretty cool logo.
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The humping 'Hummies' at Castle Pines gets my vote.8)
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for some reason I really want to see the Stonewall cow logo....
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Redanman,
The logo of the Redtail Hawk is not that of the once ultra exclusive RedTail Golf Course near St. Thomas, Ontario. It does look very close to Red Tail Landing Golf Club's logo in Edmonton, AB but alas it is not exactly the same. If I could finally figure out how to post pictures I would show you the difference.
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now that we are in the midst of summer re-run threads here are some of my faves. I omitted any Indian themed logos - but if had to pick my fave from that genre it would have to be philly cricket club
Merion - undisputed champion imho -the logo that all others should aspire to be
fishers island
chicago golf club - their motto "far and sure" earns bonus points
myopia hunt club
walton heath
lahinch - unlike the logo this course is hardly a goat track
the country club - squirrel logo
yale -"biting bulldog"
sleepy hollow - headless horseman
indian creek
maidstone - whale logo
creek club
ngla
atlantic city - the bell and the date works just fine for me
philly country club - the weren't "horsing" around when they designed their logo
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thanks Redanman!!!!!!!!!!
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bumping up as it came up in the recent logo thread
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I believe the bird of prey logo is East Hampton Golf Club (C&C) or South Fork CC in Amagansett, NY