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GolfClubAtlas.com => Golf Course Architecture => Topic started by: Chris_Clouser on February 18, 2003, 06:07:06 AM

Title: "Axis" routing - do you know of any?
Post by: Chris_Clouser on February 18, 2003, 06:07:06 AM
I have been checking out a course recently that seems to have a unique routing scheme, at least to me it seems unique.  So I was wondering if anyone has encountered a similar layout and was wondering what you thought of it?  Also do you see any benefits to this type of routing and did it seem to be the best one for the course?

The type of routing I'm referring to is what appears to an "axis" type of routing.  The architect (who shall go nameless to avoid any possible type of bias) had a central elevation factor on the site and basically did a series of 3 or 4 hole loops that went out and back to this elevation factor in the middle of the site.  What it created were several elevated tee shots and elevated green sites that seem to have really helped with the drainage on this particular site (the soil is clay based).  
Title: Re: "Axis" routing - do you know of any?
Post by: Chris_Clouser on February 19, 2003, 05:09:17 AM
Thought I would bump this back up and see if anyone could add to it.

Title: Re: "Axis" routing - do you know of any?
Post by: TEPaul on February 19, 2003, 05:14:45 AM
Chris:

Nobody seems to be responding to this but I will--later.
Title: Re: "Axis" routing - do you know of any?
Post by: ForkaB on February 19, 2003, 05:34:24 AM
Most courses in the Deep South were designed this way prior to 1865.  The concept was to allow the gentry to be able to play bursts of golf in the full knowledge that they could return to the task of overseeing their property (human and otherwise) every 30 minutes or so.  By doing this they assured that the "workers" on their plantations were always assiduously attending to their wishes, whether it be through the picking of cotton or the eradication of various insectivorial pestilences.  For obvious reasons, after the War That Will Never End, humourless Yankees occasionally referred to this architectural style as "The Axis of Weevil."
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Post by: Morey Amsterdam on February 19, 2003, 06:20:45 AM
Who hired the comedian?
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Post by: RJ_Daley on February 19, 2003, 11:11:05 AM
Chris, though I haven't seen the course, it sounds something like the routing scheme that Mike Strantz used at Bull's Bay, from what I have read about it.  Perhaps, when participants here think of some of these hub and spoke examples, they can feed them to Scott Burroughs and he can show some aerials.  I can't think of any true hubs and spokes routings (where greens 3-5-9-12-15-18 might all return towards the central high point of a clubhouse) though I can think of a few that have a few spokes missing and don't go radiantly out from the center perfectly.
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Post by: Scott_Burroughs on February 19, 2003, 11:49:21 AM
Though this doesn't have the hill in the middle, is this what
you're referring to, Chris?  (This is Blackwolf Run's River
course, a previous AOTD.  As soon as I read your description,
I thought of this one, which stuck out in my mind for
it's "cross"/spoke routing):

(http://home.att.net/~scottgolf3/wsb/media/142163/site1009.jpg)
Title: Re: "Axis" routing - do you know of any?
Post by: RJ_Daley on February 19, 2003, 12:02:59 PM
Scott, I was in deed thinking of BWR, and that is what I meant by some spokes of the wheel are missing, like from 6 to 10 on the clock, which is mostly taken up by the meadows course, not shown.
Title: Re: "Axis" routing - do you know of any?
Post by: Chris_Clouser on February 19, 2003, 12:40:27 PM
Scott,

The hill in the middle is not the key.  It is the layout of the
holes that matters to me.  

Good example.
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Post by: Ken Bakst on February 19, 2003, 04:13:18 PM
Chris

Check out Cuscowilla, where holes 6, 9, 14 and 18 all play back into the clubhouse location.
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Post by: Pete_Pittock on February 19, 2003, 04:36:05 PM
Weiser, Idaho had a 9 hole course, three loops of three holes, each returning to the clubhouse. I think it had something to do with getting beer easily.
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Post by: Scott_Burroughs on February 19, 2003, 05:57:34 PM
Ken,

You mention it, you got it, the aerial of Cuscowilla (again, a
previous AOTD), with several returning hole groups:
(http://home.att.net/~scottgolf3/wsb/media/142163/site1032.jpg)