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I was a fan of the old #4. It demanded a strong tee shot, then a long/mid iron to a severely tilted green. Bailing out right was safe, but your downhill chip rarely held the putting surface. Laying up short into the rough offered the better opportunity for an up and down par. I thought it was the hardest par on the course.The new #4 playing as a par 5 from 536 yards suggests it might be an easier hole to par. Do you know the plan for the grass between the green running down to the pond? Will it be rough, or fairway length? If fairway length, the misses to the left will run way down the hill and your chip back to the green will be quite a challenge.
I like the photo of Scott Clem, who did much of the shaping, in his somewhat sarcastic "architect photo-op" pose.The fact that he is clutching a Trimble handheld GPS mapping device just adds authenticity.Ben,You may want to start another thread to do the back nine. The scrolling is getting quite deep at this point.