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Sean,The first two fairway bunkers on 18 are very new. They were being laid out, I think, when BUDA visited Alwoodley (was that 2007?) I believe they are intended to dissuade golfers from playing towards the right and the properties which lie OOB.
No doubt the intrigues about the formation of The Alwoodley Golf Club may appear in the Centenary Book in 2007 !!! But the records show Alister MacKenzie (AM) was a founder member (Jan 24 / 1907) and became a member of the General Committee at the first meeting. At the second meeting on Jan 29 / 1907 the Committee decided who became the Officers of the Club and AM was elected Hon.Secretary and his good friend Arthur Sykes Hon.Treasurer. The Green Committee comprised 2 Committee Members, plus the Chairman, Hon.Treasurer and Hon.Secretary.AM was Captain of the Club in 1912 and at the same time Edith his wife was Lady Captain. AM was also Captain of Moortown in 1913 !!! He transferred to Country Membership in May 1929 and finally resigned in Dec 1931.I can quote from a letter sent to Henry Longhurst and Donald Steel in 1972, by a former Hon.Secretary Ralph Middleton who stated that the Feb 1907 Minutes show that Walter Toogood (Professional at Ilkley 1903 - 1911) was instructed to lay out the course, if his charges were not excessive. These were later agreed at 2 guineas for the first day and half a guinea for any other days. (Then a guinea was about £1.10) With no CV and experience, we can imagime that the Commitee were not prepared to let AM however positive a character he was, start on the course at Alwoodley, but there is a later minute in July 1907 that the alterations to the course were to be discussed with Harry Colt and this was presumably when the services of Toogood were terminated and AM had started to oversee all construction. HSC was of course the Secretary at Sunningdale from 1901-1911 and had been at Cambridge (1887-1890) round about the same time as AM and also Bernard Darwin. Colt was already developing his reputation as a course architect in 1907. We assume that as the first Hon.Secretary AM would have had a strong hand in the way the course was constructed and this is evident from the original MacKenzie map that we found in 1995 when we moved to our new clubhouse. This is the map you see on page 13 in Tom Doaks book published last year. I can only guess that this was dated 1910 similar to other "plans of the course" that we have, or was perhaps done even earlier say in 1907 right at the start up of Alwoodley, and an amendment made later to the top right hand corner where new greens were suggseted for 10 and 11, with AM recommending the leasing of an extra triangle of land from the Lord Harewood. At Moortown in 1909 the short hole (then the 17th) called Gibraltar was a great success and the "new 11th" at Alwoodley has many similarities. Also similar holes exist at Reddish Vale and the 9th at Crystal Downs also plays uphill with a very severe fall off on the left. My own view is that MacKenzie was intrigued by course design (no one knows if he ever earned a real living from his medicine) and took every opportunity to get very involved at Alwoodley. Harry Colt who had the reputation was called in by what must have been a prudent Committee to give professional advice on the design and layout of the course. As Chairman of Green at Alwoodley nothing much has changed, as I am still charged to seek professional support if the Green Committee propose to alter the playing character of any hole.I think you asked me a question, so in the midst of this I may have answered it !!! regards Nick Leefe (email@example.com)
Quote from: Mark Pearce on July 18, 2011, 06:54:38 AMSean,The first two fairway bunkers on 18 are very new. They were being laid out, I think, when BUDA visited Alwoodley (was that 2007?) I believe they are intended to dissuade golfers from playing towards the right and the properties which lie OOB.This is confusing. There's nothing to the right but the first fairway, right? The OOB and homes are to the left.
Quote from: Bill_McBride on July 18, 2011, 09:37:47 AMQuote from: Mark Pearce on July 18, 2011, 06:54:38 AMSean,The first two fairway bunkers on 18 are very new. They were being laid out, I think, when BUDA visited Alwoodley (was that 2007?) I believe they are intended to dissuade golfers from playing towards the right and the properties which lie OOB.This is confusing. There's nothing to the right but the first fairway, right? The OOB and homes are to the left. Bill,I am an idiot. When I wrote right what I meant was left.
If you recall the first two bunkers on 18 were marked with sheeting during Buda and there was a presentation to members due. The club as I recall had sold land to the left of 17 & 18 for housing and the OOB was an issue. The bunkering was to stop more balls crossing the fence. IMO they've done a pretty good job.