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Great Courses the PGA Tour Can No Longer Play
Erik J. Barzeski:
I'm still on my side of the "distance" debate, but I wondered if anyone had a list of great courses that are no longer able to be played by the PGA Tour primarily because they're too short.
This means the courses should be considered good or great. The courses should be former PGA Tour courses that are no longer used (i.e. if you think they ruined a course by adding length to it, that doesn't count). The courses should be unused now primarily because of the distance they play, not because of infrastructure problems, lack of a sponsor, etc.
Ideally the course hosted more than a few PGA Tour events and was not just a one-off type thing.
Matt_Cohn:
That's a tough criteria. If we can include major championship courses, maybe Cherry Hills? But maybe there are logistical issues there too.
I went through Golf Digest's Top 200 and didn't find any others that seemed to fit.
Edit: They had a playoff event at Cherry Hills in 2014 and the winner was -14, so I guess they can still play there.
Scott Warren:
--- Quote from: Erik J. Barzeski on October 20, 2018, 11:15:34 PM ---(i.e. if you think they ruined a course by adding length to it, that doesn't count)
--- End quote ---
Seems to me a course that got sigificantly lengthened or redesigned to stay Tour-able should be in the same boat as one that couldn’t or wouldn’t join the arms race and got left behind by the Tour.
In terms of technlogy’s impact on great classic architecture on Tour, the result is the same.
The answer to your very specific, well-qualified question might be “only Cypress Point”. But I’m not sure what the point of the very specific, well-qualified question is because we all know technology’s impact on classic architecture at the Tour level is much more significant than that.
Tom_Doak:
Well there aren't many great courses that are regular PGA TOUR sites, to begin with. So it's kind of a trick question.
But the problem isn't the courses they play on TOUR. The problem is all the other courses that get changed because architects and club members watch golf on TV on the weekends.
Ira Fishman:
Erik,
Flip your question around and take a look at the Golfweek Classic 100. How many have the length to host a tour event?
Ira
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