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Garland Bayley

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Re: What design feature do you dislike the most?
« Reply #100 on: October 27, 2014, 03:31:50 PM »
Exactly. I don't know why a different convention would be used to describe doglegs than what was taught in grammar school. I mean, I know we golf hobbyinsts are brilliant but ...  ;D

If you were driving your car and were told to veer 3 degrees to the right, would you be heading back towards where you came from?
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

John Connolly

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Re: What design feature do you dislike the most?
« Reply #101 on: October 27, 2014, 03:50:33 PM »
If you drew a picture of a nutcracker would you say the angle the nut sits in is >90? We could do this all day if you like.

Neil's excellent graphic seems to resolve the issue.
"And yet - and yet, this New Road will some day be the Old Road, too."

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Garland Bayley

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Re: What design feature do you dislike the most?
« Reply #102 on: October 27, 2014, 04:07:58 PM »
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Neil's excellent graphic seems to resolve the issue.

Agreed
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Paul Gray

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Re: What design feature do you dislike the most?
« Reply #103 on: October 27, 2014, 04:20:11 PM »
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In the places where golf cuts through pretension and elitism, it thrives and will continue to thrive because the simple virtues of the game and its attendant culture are allowed to be most apparent. - Tim Gavrich

Jon Wiggett

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Re: What design feature do you dislike the most?
« Reply #104 on: October 28, 2014, 03:03:38 PM »
What is the green in the corner for?

Jon

Jon,

It looks as though it could've been the original 7th green - and that they have extended the 8th so much that to play it as such would mean crossing the driving zone of the 8th - hence the little beauty that is the 7th now........

Thanks for the answer Neil :)

Brian Freeman

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Re: What design feature do you dislike the most?
« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2014, 07:36:21 PM »
Thomas,

A bit late to the party with this one but it needs saying........

The >90 degree dog-leg......



If you're not convinced try watching this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm26byKURA4

Have we ever had a World's Worst 18?

Holy...

This hole takes the phrase "Connector Hole" to a whole other level.

I would have just built the 175 yard par 3 and had a nice stroll through the woods to 8 tee..

Garland Bayley

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Re: What design feature do you dislike the most?
« Reply #106 on: October 29, 2014, 07:47:54 PM »
Thomas,

A bit late to the party with this one but it needs saying........

The >90 degree dog-leg......



If you're not convinced try watching this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm26byKURA4

Have we ever had a World's Worst 18?

Holy...

This hole takes the phrase "Connector Hole" to a whole other level.

I would have just built the 175 yard par 3 and had a nice stroll through the woods to 8 tee..

Aren't we a pampered bunch.

Not every club has 900 acres to choose the best set of holes from. Sometimes they have 90 or less. This type of hole was prescribed by none other than Tilly for such situations with a lack of real estate. Maybe the club produced Ryder Cuppers, because the players there learned to hit more shots than the standard hit it high and hit it long that we see golf has become.

It's not the course's fault if your hit it high and hit it long doesn't reward you as you feel entitled to.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

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