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Howard Riefs

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Cabot Cliffs
« on: August 03, 2012, 10:24:56 AM »
“One course is a curiosity; two courses is a destination,” says Mike Keiser.

Here comes Cabot Cliffs, the 2nd course to accompany Cabot Links.

Details via the below Golfweek article:

-- Architect:  Bill Coore walked the area a couple of weeks ago and has started drawing up routing plans.
-- Timing:  Land clearing already has begun. Groundbreaking is anticipated sometime in 2013. Expected to be open for play in 2015.
-- Site:  Area known as Broad Cove located 2 miles north of Cabot Links. 600-acre tract of land offers more than a mile of coastline – similar to the seaside stretch at CL.  Elevation lends to dramatic views of the gulf and the cliffs.
-- Course feature: A par 3 that will "play similar to the iconic 16th at Cypress Point."

http://golfweek.com/news/2012/aug/01/keiser-thinks-big-again-2nd-course-cabot-links/

A few photos of the site:
http://golfweek.com/photos/galleries/2012/aug/01/cabot-links-second-course/
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Ted Sturges

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 10:47:16 AM »
Ran and Ben:

Please don't call the place Cabot Cliffs!  The name reminds of the Cliff's communities golf developments in the southeast US.

How about simply Broad Cove?

Or...Inverness Highlands

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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2012, 10:49:45 AM »
working title...I'll sky-write over Mr. Keiser's house the GCA suggestion for New Macdonald.
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Mac Plumart

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2012, 11:08:41 AM »
Quote from: Ronald Montesano on August 03, 2012, 10:49:45 AM
working title...I'll sky-write over Mr. Keiser's house the GCA suggestion for New Macdonald.

BOOM!!!

New MacDonald it is.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2012, 11:28:50 AM »
New MacDonald had a cliff...e-i-e-i-ay
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Bill Seitz

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2012, 11:50:57 AM »
Quote from: Ronald Montesano on August 03, 2012, 11:28:50 AM
New MacDonald had a cliff...e-i-e-i-ay

It's in Canada, so it would be e-i-e-i-eh?
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Michael George

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2012, 12:00:51 PM »
If it is located at Broad Cove, why not Cabot Cove. 

Site looks incredible.  Could it be the best property that Coore/Crenshaw have ever been given?  I would think only Sand Hills and Lost Farm would be the only competition.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2012, 12:31:09 PM »
eh is spelled ay in Canadia/Canuckland.
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Tim Pitner

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2012, 12:33:26 PM »
Exciting.  I'm inclined to wait to visit the destination instead of the curiosity. 
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Eric Smith

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 12:44:37 PM »
Quote from: Michael George on August 03, 2012, 12:00:51 PM
If it is located at Broad Cove, why not Cabot Cove. 


Good idea.

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Greg Tallman

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2012, 12:58:20 PM »
Quote from: Ted Sturges on August 03, 2012, 10:47:16 AM
Ran and Ben:

Please don't call the place Cabot Cliffs!  The name reminds of the Cliff's communities golf developments in the southeast US.

How about simply Broad Cove?

Or...Inverness Highlands

TS

That would be named The Cliffs of Cabot at Inverness
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2012, 01:25:22 PM »
The Trace of the Cliffs of the Cove at Inverness @ Keiser International.
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Jud_T

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2012, 01:38:36 PM »
How long till the inevitable Cabot vs. Streamsong hole-by hole death match?
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2012, 01:49:56 PM »
No fair...it's 2 v. 1.
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Greg Tallman

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2012, 01:51:46 PM »
Quote from: Ronald Montesano on August 03, 2012, 01:49:56 PM
No fair...it's 2 v. 1.

Actually in this economy it is 1 vs. 0 at this point.
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Jud_T

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2012, 01:56:55 PM »
I meant once all four courses were in the ground the need to rank them would be unbearable for some.
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2012, 01:58:47 PM »
Quote from: Jud Tigerman on August 03, 2012, 01:38:36 PM
How long till the inevitable Cabot vs. Streamsong hole-by hole death match?

December 14, the date Streamsong opens.
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2012, 02:53:07 PM »
I see your point...how about Cabot and Streamsong in Canadian Doubles vs. Bandon?
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Will Lozier

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2012, 04:54:54 PM »
Quote from: Michael George on August 03, 2012, 12:00:51 PM
If it is located at Broad Cove, why not Cabot Cove. 

Site looks incredible.  Could it be the best property that Coore/Crenshaw have ever been given?  I would think only Sand Hills and Lost Farm would be the only competition.

Little early to start that kind of hype don't you think...off of those six pics?!? ???

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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2012, 05:27:37 PM »
Yeah, Mikey boy, about that... are you saying that your personal ranking of C/C is Sand Hills, followed by Lost Farm? I think that a number of courses found here (http://www.coorecrenshaw.com/portfolio.html) would compete with Cabot Hertz for site worthiness.
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2012, 05:30:29 PM »
Quote from: Will Lozier on August 03, 2012, 04:54:54 PM
Quote from: Michael George on August 03, 2012, 12:00:51 PM
If it is located at Broad Cove, why not Cabot Cove.  

Site looks incredible.  Could it be the best property that Coore/Crenshaw have ever been given?  I would think only Sand Hills and Lost Farm would be the only competition.

Little early to start that kind of hype don't you think...off of those six pics?!? ???



That's nothing. Memory serves, a thread earlier this year crowned the "finest routing of 18 holes in the history of the game" on a course that won't open for another year.


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Ronald Montesano

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2012, 05:32:29 PM »
I'm a big fan of the property where The Pit is currently located, in Aberdeen, N.C. When Pinehurst Jiu eventually opens, it will be on one interesting piece of property.
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Howard Riefs

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2012, 01:07:42 PM »
A little more from Brad Klein in the current Golfweek:

Cabot Links’ developers of this site that they are well under way with plans for a second course a mile to the north, located on a bluff 110 feet above the gulf for which Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw are now completing the routing. It will be called Cabot Cliffs and be part a second, affiliated hotel complex, with a likely opening date of mid-2014.

http://golfweek.com/news/2012/sep/11/nova-scotias-cabot-links-add-2nd-course/
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Tom_Doak

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2012, 01:18:20 PM »
Quote from: Howard Riefs on September 11, 2012, 01:07:42 PM
A little more from Brad Klein in the current Golfweek:

Cabot Links’ developers of this site that they are well under way with plans for a second course a mile to the north, located on a bluff 110 feet above the gulf for which Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw are now completing the routing. It will be called Cabot Cliffs and be part a second, affiliated hotel complex, with a likely opening date of mid-2014.

http://golfweek.com/news/2012/sep/11/nova-scotias-cabot-links-add-2nd-course/

That opening date seems pretty optimistic ... I wouldn't say the likely opening date was mid-2014 unless I had already started construction.
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Greg Tallman

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Re: Cabot Cliffs
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2012, 01:21:39 PM »
Quote from: Tom_Doak on September 11, 2012, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: Howard Riefs on September 11, 2012, 01:07:42 PM
A little more from Brad Klein in the current Golfweek:

Cabot Links’ developers of this site that they are well under way with plans for a second course a mile to the north, located on a bluff 110 feet above the gulf for which Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw are now completing the routing. It will be called Cabot Cliffs and be part a second, affiliated hotel complex, with a likely opening date of mid-2014.

http://golfweek.com/news/2012/sep/11/nova-scotias-cabot-links-add-2nd-course/

That opening date seems pretty optimistic ... I wouldn't say the likely opening date was mid-2014 unless I had already started construction.

What is the true workable season? 9 months?
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