On Tuesday, I played with a great player whom I occassionally coach. We played Desert Forrest. The course was playing as long as he'd seen it in recent years because of the overseeding. The greens were fairly firm and running at 11+ . Those who have played there will know what those greens are capable of at such speeds, especially when the pins were set for an afternoon tournament. My friend has played a great number of great courses in competition and loves Desert Forrest. Throughout the round he was mentioning how the fear of different tee shots had diminished because of technology. Holes #5, #13, #16, #18 used to be evil among the rest of the hard to hit fairways. In addition, the risk/reward tee option on #7 no longer exists--the right side is an easy carry. As for Todd's round, He had 8 birdies with 4 lip-outs, one triple--bad drive and protection of body for next week's big tournament, and no bogies. The layout is incredibly great, but what is wrong with a longer hitter being challenged the same way as other golfers? Incidentally, this course can easily be stretched to 7500 yds without the tees appearing way out of place.