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Looking forward to this, Sean.
I agree that the best of the course is bookended by lesser holes, but still enjoyed those. The first is reachable, but a layup is complicated by the diagonal hazard and the lack of definition.
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I did a piece on Aberdovey for Links a few years ago. Of all the things I have written on golf, I think I like this one best.


https://www.linksmagazine.com/aberdovey_by_train/
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Sean, thanks. It just struck me what it is about this non-inland GB&I course (with its high hills and vast waters) that is so noteworthy, ie that unlike what most modern architects do (and what, say, Stanley Thompson and other golden agers did) with such settings, Colt-Braid-Fowler went with the 'contrast' instead of 'complimentary' approach vis-a-vis scale. For my tastes, it's a very homely (in the best sense) approach indeed. The focus stays on the golf.
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Pietro

The site is quite tight with few commanding view points to really show off any sort of grand scale. 

Ciao
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This doesn't try to answer the question posed here, but I was just thinking locally about Conway Farms.  Furyk's sub 60 round on a fairly windy day was eye opening to me.  I have played the course many times and I never thought of it as a course that I would describe as easy.  But when a short hitting pro can post a fifty something in the wind, I suppose that the course may be too short to test their entire games.  As it is, you could call it a putting contest. 


They have 3 par 5s that are near 600 yards.  They some par 3s in the 220 range.  Several par fours in the upper 400s.  But you can get some roll out there, there are several shorter holes, and the greens are really good. 


This is a short article where Justin Rose is actually expressing his preference for Cog Hill, seemingly just because of it's length.  It appears as though he thinks that Conway's scoring is too low and it is harder for the "good" players... like himself, to get separation. 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/golf/ct-return-to-cog-hill-20170917-story.html
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Ed Brawley thinks Hunter was troubled by his depression from Indiana to California. Golf helped it, but is persisted. I do not believe there are any Hunter-drawn plans, but I could be wrong. Certainly there were none when we did our work.
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Sven - I think the "Hunter" plans you refer to are contained in the Pacific Golf & Motor article penned by Hunter above which is a survey of the course by E.W. Morgan (engineer). This plan shows the course as it was built originally. To our knowledge Hunter did not draw anything himself. He oversaw Watson's work, including the original plans which are preserved by way of a scan copy made many years ago.


I thought I read somewhere on this site that the club found Hunter's initial plan (prior to any involvement by Watson).  I'll see if I can find the reference, but you'd probably know better than the rest of us. 
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Sven ... I think Hunter was attributing the plans to Watson because of the contradiction he realized in teaching sociology while at the some time endeavoring into the elitist circles of Bay Area golf. One has to know the mental struggle Hunter was coming down (up) from...writing about poverty (Poverty in America), workers rights and all sorts of "downer" topics. Golf became his salvation...yet it was also so very contrary to his relatively new position at Berkeley.


Forrest -


Hunter had been dealing with any contradictions between his work and his private life for nearly 20 years (the book was published in 1904), including many years on the East Coast running in the high society clique and being a member at several high end golf clubs.  I doubt there was much internal debate going on when he started his plans at Berkeley.


I can believe that in the early 1920's Hunter didn't have any plans to pursue any design work beyond his involvement at Berkeley, and thus Watson was the man for other opportunities.  Obviously this changed, most likely due to his focused work while writing and publishing The Links.


Sven
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Golf Course Architecture / Re: Changes at Deal (Royal Cinque Ports)
« Last post by Mark Chaplin on Today at 12:18:43 PM »
4 clubs have been granted Royal status since the Queen took the throne.
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If it's 62,000 yards I need to revisit my original contract  :o
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LOL the [font=]Nov. 25, 1920 Oakland Tribune  article.  Says course was 62,000 yards long.  An early adopter of a long course to combat modern length.  More seriously, you can tell this article at least wasn't written by a golf enthusiast, which might lead some to think other details might be wrong via ignorance.[/font]
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