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Whether its for liability, environmental, or other reasons, what great holes from yesterday could not / would not be built in today's climate?

What can we learn from these holes that could be applied to modern course construction?
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Golf Course Architecture / Re: Reunderstanding Ross
« Last post by Sven Nilsen on Today at 04:03:20 PM »
Glenburnie is noted above in the 1915 listing.  The Glenburnie Inn was a relatively well-known Lake George vacation spot on the northeastern shore of Lake George (located just below Anthony's Nose).  The Inn no longer exists, but the Glenburnie cottage community is still there as is the Glenburnie Club which has a 5 hole course (aerial copied below).


The only reference I've found to Ross at Glenburnie comes from the Feb. 7, 1936 Berkshire Eagle article below:









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Golf Course Architecture / Re: Rollback alliance
« Last post by Ira Fishman on Today at 03:53:16 PM »
I know I am in favor of limiting ball distance and increasing spin as well as doing something about the driver. I am more torn on bifurcation, but it actually might be the case that more fans would watch golf if they could say that they could hit it almost as far as the pros. A weird consequence of bifurcation, but maybe a reason to try it.


Ira
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Is there a date the final will be played on or a to be completed date?  I may be back this fall for a surgery to my father and if in the Midwest would like to tag along and enjoy the best sandbaggers the GCA has to offer.😉


I will be shocked if we make it to the final match.....believe the farthest previous years have gone is the semi-finals. Hopefully we get another match or two completed.
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Golf Course Architecture / Roundabout @ Streamsong
« Last post by John Foley on Today at 03:44:04 PM »
Going there with a group the end of September and wondering if this is worth it? Have not seen much discussion on the site and have not played it the other times I have been there.


For those that have gone around appreciate your guidance.
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Golf Course Architecture / Re: Rollback alliance
« Last post by Matthew Mollica on Today at 03:39:43 PM »
I wonder what percentage of the world’s golf courses have a safety issue with a boundary.


And what percentage of the world’s courses have faced rising insurance premiums due to boundary issues. Or made changes to the course as a response to same.
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Are much (of what passes for) thought, here I am:

1. To the extent that a course actually requires 5 hours or more to play, without regard to management questions, and without regard to rubbernecking and picture taking, then I think my answer would be "No, it isn't a great golf course".  It may be great as landscape art, or in some other limited ways, but purely for golf, no; not likely.  (I'll allow for exceptions.)

2. Restating the qualifier that I am not interesting in setting land speed records, almost every too-long round I've ever played has had to do ONLY with management; low expectations, not adhering to tee times, refusal to make players correct poor pace, etc.  It has had zero, or nearly so, with GCA.


No question that for two of the three I mentioned—Castle Stuart and Kingsbarns—it was culture and expectations that caused most of the slowness. And at both, a back up at Number 10 because of people dawdling at the halfway house clearly a management decision. Kapulua Plantation is more of a GCA issue. It is on a very severe hill and working around it and up it would slow down play no matter what. I am not sure that Coore and Crenshaw could have done too much about it though given the site. Of course the fact that it is a resort courses whose views inspire photo taking does not help.


Ira
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Golf Course Architecture / Re: Rollback alliance
« Last post by SL_Solow on Today at 03:31:41 PM »
Little League has safety motivation
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V - I believe it was the late great Boab Huntley that introduced the treehouse to the cringe inducing effects of hearing that term used, amongst purported architectural aficianados.  ;D



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Are much (of what passes for) thought, here I am:

1. To the extent that a course actually requires 5 hours or more to play, without regard to management questions, and without regard to rubbernecking and picture taking, then I think my answer would be "No, it isn't a great golf course".  It may be great as landscape art, or in some other limited ways, but purely for golf, no; not likely.  (I'll allow for exceptions.)

2. Restating the qualifier that I am not interesting in setting land speed records, almost every too-long round I've ever played has had to do ONLY with management; low expectations, not adhering to tee times, refusal to make players correct poor pace, etc.  It has had zero, or nearly so, with GCA. 
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