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What is your first reaction and your second thoughts?
The issue isn't what the bunkers look like. Let's stipulate that they are the most beautiful bunkers ever built.The issue is their location.Bob
Hi Rich, if you are going to St Andrews can you swing by Pilmour House and pick up a copy of the Dawson/Hawtree master plan for the changes?I can arrange to have it scanned if they don't have a soft copy to hand.
Rich -As noted several times previously on several different threads, the spacious, benign entrance to the 2nd green from the right was an important factor in how to play the hole. That is, the best way to play the hole was down the right side of the fw, risking the whins, bunkers and gunk on that side in order to approach the hole from the right side. That description of how best to play the hole goes back as far as Balfour, through Low, through Mack, through Muirhead and finally to Doak more recently.New bunkers up against the right side of the green eliminate the logic of plaing the hole that way. I haven't seen the revised hole, but my guess is that the smartest way to play it now is down the middle of the fw, into the middle of the green. A less interesting hole. But (to paraphrase the old Popeil commercials) there's worse. The 2nd is now something other than the hole that has been written about many times over the past 150 years.Bob
Thanks Rich. If you face any static just mention that I know the author of the authoritative "Experience St Andrews" book.
Oh yes, that's the one! I was using shorthand for the book, which can be ordered here:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Experience-Old-Course-Andrews-Links/dp/095500411X
Quote from: Mark Bourgeois on December 04, 2012, 02:26:26 pmOh yes, that's the one! I was using shorthand for the book, which can be ordered here:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Experience-Old-Course-Andrews-Links/dp/095500411XMark thatís the first edition, soon to be a collectorís item as it no longer accurately reflects today's experience!Rhic himself has suggested the photography is so detailed they could reconstruct the real experience from it.
With Peter Dawson at the helm you could put out a new edition next year and the next after that.Is this why you're arguing for change?Hi Tony, won't the bunkers slow down play when flags are located over there?